Who is your favorite Republican, & would you vote them in for President? *word to Anthony Mackie

[A.J. Trillzynski]

there just can't be any good white people in history, I get it. not even the President who circumvented congress and used executive powers to free millions of slaves.. obviously because he didn't really wanna do it or had some imaginary ulterior motive or something. and I've cited multiple sources (believe it or not Wikipedia is sourced, if you really care to dig into the issue).

The only bad thing you can say about Lincoln is that he supported a 'back to Africa' view on what to do with the millions of freed blacks.. but then again this is the same fantasy the IC loves to kick around anytime some racial shit flares up.

 

[TheGOAT]

The only bad thing you can say about Lincoln is that he supported a 'back to Africa' view on what to do with the millions of freed blacks.. but then again this is the same fantasy the IC loves to kick around anytime some racial shit flares up.

The largest mass execution in US history was when Lincoln ordered the hanging of 38 American Indians

 

[kzzl]

You're right, the letter was addressed to a publishing of Greeley officially, I was off on that. His words were considered a response to Fredrick Douglas charges as well. They both were critical of the president on his issue of slavery round the same time.

 

[A.J. Trillzynski]

The only bad thing you can say about Lincoln is that he supported a 'back to Africa' view on what to do with the millions of freed blacks.. but then again this is the same fantasy the IC loves to kick around anytime some racial shit flares up.

The largest mass execution in US history was when Lincoln ordered the hanging of 38 American Indians

you mean when upon careful review Lincoln authorized 39 to be executed from 303 war criminals convicted of murder and massacre?
http://www.historynet.com/abraham-l...crimes-in-minnesotas-great-sioux-uprising.htm

The Dakota raged across the countryside with a fury. Four to eight hundred white settlers were butchered during the first four days of the rampage, while their farms and fields burned. The Dakota hit first and hard at the reservation agency, killing dozens. One of the victims was trader Myrick. His killers stuffed his mouth with grass. The Dakota also struck at the region’s army outpost and towns. They annihilated a detachment of soldiers dispatched from nearby Fort Ridgely before being repulsed in two assaults on the garrison itself. They twice attacked and burned most of the town of New Ulm but failed to capture it from its armed residents.

Panic surged throughout Minnesota. Tens of thousands of terrified settlers fled and virtually depopulated the state’s western regions. Governor Alexander Ramsey dispatched 1,200 men from Fort Snelling under the command of Henry H. Sibley, a former fur trader, politician and friend of the Dakota. Sibley was not regular army, but he heeded Ramsey’s call and accepted a commission as colonel. Unsure of his authority, Sibley failed to declare martial law and moved excruciatingly slowly. He did not engage the Dakota until early September 1862, when Indians surprised and butchered a 150-man reconnaissance detail at Birch Coulee. The debacle slowed Sibley even more, and he did not meet Little Crow in full force until September 22, when he won a decisive victory at Wood Lake. The Dakota scattered over the prairie. Sibley finally managed to capture about 1,200 men, women, and children, but Little Crow was not among them. Sibley intended to prosecute as war criminals those Indians who had participated in the rebellion.

 

[A Talented One]

This is a case where nuance is everything. Lincoln was opposed to slavery, but didn't free the slaves because of his opposition to slavery. He did it to achieve his military objectives, which were in the service of his overriding political objective to save the union.

At least that is what he said. Is it possible that achieving his military objectives provided a pretext to do what already wanted to do? Yes.

 

[A Talented One]

there just can't be any good white people in history, I get it. not even the President who circumvented congress and used executive powers to free millions of slaves.. obviously because he didn't really wanna do it or had some imaginary ulterior motive or something. and I've cited multiple sources (believe it or not Wikipedia is sourced, if you really care to dig into the issue).

The only bad thing you can say about Lincoln is that he supported a 'back to Africa' view on what to do with the millions of freed blacks.. but then again this is the same fantasy the IC loves to kick around anytime some racial shit flares up.

Some of these dudes even talk bad about John Brown, who was utterly opposed to slavery and far, far more sympathetic to blacks than Lincoln and most (if not all) other white abolitionists. (Though it is true that Lincoln wasn't as friendly to blacks as some think.)

 

[kzzl]

I'm still not sold on what that website is pushing. Lincoln wasn't an Abolitionist, the EP didn't give slaves rights, the EP didn't free all slaves, and ...when he says "all men should be free", does he consider slaves "men"? As in equal to whites? Not from what I'm seeing. There were white abolitionist that didn't like slavery, but they wasn't about to let black folks inside their homes or take their jobs.

Him and congress (who passed two acts to free slaves before the EP) made a move to win the war and save their country. I won't prop it up as more than that.

I was using this to jog my memory.

 

[zzombie]

Freedom doesn't equal equality

 

[A Talented One]

Freedom doesn't equal equality

 

[zzombie]

Freedom doesn't equal equality

You are free to do everything i do that does not make you my equal. In much the same way i am not the equal to bill gates. The american government was not set up to make men equal it was set up to ensure our natural god given right to freedom, to accomplish this it has to hold all men equal before it. We are equal in law but law is only one part of civilized human life and the government is not to put it's hand where it does not belong.

 

[matches malone]

The Rock aint no fuckin republican

he hosted the RNC the year bush was reelected. I'm willing to bet most wrestlers are republicans.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Sounds like a classic case of two birds and a single stone, concernin' Lincoln and slavery.

 

[bamnboy7]

James Earl Jones

 

[TheGOAT]

We smell a potential presidential campaign cooking up in Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson"s future...

The former pro wrestler turned actor hinted that he just might be looking to get political someday after fans put together an article highlighting all the reasons The Rock should run for president.

Johnson took to Twitter to share the post, and expressed that he's not totally ruling out the idea of taking over the Oval Office someday. "Cool piece on why I should run for President. Maybe one day. Surely the White House has a spot for my pick up truck," he wrote.

The article noted that the long-time registered Republican was invited to speak at the Republican convention in 2000, and has also attended the Democratic convention, as well. He's respected by both law enforcement and the military, and is known for being a family man.

The Rock is obviously no stranger to hard work and continues to build his huge fan base, but never loses grasp of his humble beginnings.


http://m.eonline.com/amp/news/75173...anting-him-to-run-for-president-maybe-one-day

 

[blackamerica]

Colin Powell

 

[CapitalB]

Id have voted for Prince. lol

 

[D0wn]

The Rock Cousin is a former Navy Seal that how he knew Osama was dead.

Rikishi?

 

[VIBE]

most celebs r rep or dem?

 

[trilladelic]

Rock seems like he'd be a moderate pub at best. He played a gay dude in a movie..

Colin Powell is the only mf from the bush administration to admit invading Iraq was a mistake but correct me if if wrong..

Ron Paul. He was doing OK till that racist shit he wrote years back came back to haunt him. He wanted to decriminalize weed, shiieet if he was running now I'd definitely vote for him...

 

[StoneColdMikey]

The clintons are basically conservative dems. I would vote moderate Republicans every single time over poltications like Hilary and rahm Emmanuel who are just democrat by association