who is the more powerful alien/ demigod /villian.

[Sour-Cream]

You might as well call him God.

 

[Broddie]

DC characters have horrible writing and are too overpowered

This ignorant ass statement became irrelevant over 15 years ago. Why not just state the truth ("DC doesn't appeal to me") and keep it moving cause you clearly have no fucking clue what you're even talking about.

 

[evoljeanyes]

Listen Thanos is not weak, but I have been saying for years without schemes he is nothing more than a smart ass Brute. Nigga who said Surtur can see Odin is tripping.

Darkseid can do any fucking thing damn without enhancements or gimmicky ass emotional schemes like Thanos. Darkseid flies, has super speed, beams is recking shit and he is a psionic with reality warping ability. Son?

lol How can Thanos be a smart brute? That makes no sense. The word brute implies a lack of sophistication and intelligence. Thanos is far from that. Brute doesn't fit him in any sense really. Even in fights, he's just as likely to use his cunning and/or trickery as brute strength.

Pretty much everything you just named Darkseid doing, Thanos can do also. And it ain't like Darkseid does all that on his own original power either. A large portion of his power comes from the Omega Effect, which is something he stole. You know what Darkseid can't do? Win. In the end, he always loses. Even in Final Crisis where he actually did achieve victory. Call Thanos' schemes gimmicky if you want, but he has accomplished his goals time and time again, and those goals are bigger than anything that Darkseid has done.

And you apparently don't know anything about Surtur. He's always depicted as at least Odin's equal when at full power. That's not even a debate. Odin beat him in the past and was severely weakened as a result implying that it was a very close battle.

Because if you catch Thanos off guard for a scrap with no tools he is going to fight with strength. That's how he scraps. Everyone just remembers IG Thanos and that ain't how he to rocks. He schemes and he is amazing at it. Thanos is smarter than darkseid. But he isn't more powerful off of speed and flight alone. Bruh...Odin always beats the shit out of Surtur...and every time they scrap. Surtur gets Odin turned up and gets mashed. Thor beats Surtur sometimes. He isn't as powerful as Odin. Odin absorbed that mans whole powerset. Lol.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Thanos uses things like energy blasts and forcefields as much as brute strength. No, he's not a speedster, but he's also not a brute. Hell, even if you just talk about physical combat, the dude knows hundreds of martial arts. He's the one that trained Gamora who is one of the foremost female martial artists in the Marvel universe. Thanos is not a brute in any sense of the word.

 

[evoljeanyes]

Thanos has never used martial arts on panel...let that shit cook, b! Supes uses energy blasts and has retarded speed yet he is considered a brute/brick type fighter. Thor is a brute. Thanos hand to hand can't fuck with Thor or Warlock. He beats them with durability and strength (or strategy)

 

[The Lonious Monk]

lol @ you discounting established fact just because you feel like it. Thanos knows hundreds of martial arts from all over the Universe. That's a fact. Gamora is believed to be one of the greatest martial artists in the MU, and she was hand trained by Thanos. Your point is invalid anyway. He's not even depicted fighting Hand to Hand very often. More often than not he's using energy blasts or tech of some kind. A brute like the Hulk wouldn't have beaten Champion the way Thanos did. Thor would never have outsmarted Tyrant in a fight to come out of the confrontation with what he wanted like Thanos did. Thanos may be a brick in the sense that he can take a lot of damage, but he's not a brute because very few of his fights come down to pure slugfests even when he's fighting pure sluggers.

 

[WYRM]

Are we counting the Celestials too? Anyone mention Adam Warlock?

 

[GodNThaBuild'n]

It's a lot of emotions in here.

 

[movingfeet]

Now let me say this: Darkseid did solve the anti-life equation and damn near destroyed every thing and quote on quote "killed" batman also Darkseid has his own armada on command to fuck some shit up.

Thanos on the other hand completed tasks that he started out to do : was owner of the infinity gauntlet twice and only gave it up cause he was tricked : CHECK

became GOD: CHECK

Now Darkseid did complete his goal BUT Thanos on the other hand just makes plans and accomplishes said plans then tries to top himself.

Both actually met and admired each other's ambitions and they both have ability to plan and dominate whom ever they want when they want.

But Where as Darkseid has an army to conquer shit and if he want's to can do it by himself but Thanos does his dirt BY HIS LONESOME with no help.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Now let me say this: Darkseid did solve the anti-life equation and damn near destroyed every thing and quote on quote "killed" batman also Darkseid has his own armada on command to fuck some shit up.

Thanos on the other hand completed tasks that he started out to do : was owner of the infinity gauntlet twice and only gave it up cause he was tricked : CHECK

became GOD: CHECK

Now Darkseid did complete his goal BUT Thanos on the other hand just makes plans and accomplishes said plans then tries to top himself.

Both actually met and admired each other's ambitions and they both have ability to plan and dominate whom ever they want when they want.

But Where as Darkseid has an army to conquer shit and if he want's to can do it by himself but Thanos does his dirt BY HIS LONESOME with no help.

The funny thing is Thanos actually does have an army. He just never uses those MFers.

 

[jaxn]

Yeah, I like Thanos also but from what I've read it's his devious mind that puts him in high ranking. His power level is pretty strong, but no where near the top people. Hell, didn't Drax kill him by simply punching a hole in Thanos' chest and pulling out his heart?

it's not just his intellect, it's his raw power. Thanos is one of the most powerful folks in marvel before you get into the skyfather range..Drax was able to kill him because he was specifically designed to kill Thanos. It took many incarnations of Drax to come about before the right incarnation was capable of doing it. Basically, Drax was Thanos' kryptonite

 

[jaxn]

out of that list, it's pre-retcon Beyonder and Surtur

 

[evoljeanyes]

If beyonder is pre retcon he is up there...Surtur is also above Thanos and seid. Damn I flubbed up in this thread

 

[evoljeanyes]

If beyonder is pre retcon he is up there...Surtur is also above Thanos and seid. Damn I flubbed up in this thread

 

[Bcotton5]

Surfer is not above Thanos lol, Thanos plays around with Thor and Surfer

He almost beat Surfer to death with his fists

 

[evoljeanyes]

Surfer is not above Thanos lol, Thanos plays around with Thor and Surfer

He almost beat Surfer to death with his fists

It says Surtur my Nigga

 

[Bcotton5]

lol my b, yea Surter is pretty much Odin level and Thanos cant beat Odin at least not without some prep

 

[jaxn]

Surtur is more powerful than Odin

 

[Bcotton5]

Nah I cant cs that, Odinforce is all of his brothers + father's power and Thorforce is even stronger than that

He can hang with him though

 

[jaxn]

Surtur is more powerful than Odin..that's why Odin and crew shit bricks whenever the idea that Surtur breaking free is hinted. Surtur is a big problem, especially if he has access to his sword. Odin has to use magic to contain Surtur. He can't outright defeat him. The Odinforce came about because of Odin, along with his brothers Ve and Vili actually fighting Surtur..they couldn't beat him. They decided to destroy his sword and in the process temporarily bfr Surtur, however Surtur came back and was coming for the brothers. Odin managed to make it into the portal for the 9 realms, while his brothers didn't. Odin was blasted or something and when he awoken, he had the combined ability of his brothers, along with his power, thus creating the Odinforce iirc (this is prior to the Serpent's retcon btw). The Thorforce is the Odinforce unless you're referencing Thor during the Ragnarok storyline.