Who Do You Think Made The Bigger Impact Of Their Own Genre: Kurt Cobain or Tupac Shakur

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[Knives Amilli]

Kurt. But really thats not saying much though.

 

[I'm THAT guy...]

The fact that Kurt created his own genre so to speak give's him the win

 

[deathrowzorrow]

nigga who is kurt kobain??

all I know is that life is good drops july 17

 

[thefabmd2dc]

Well I'm gonna say Kurt on a strictly musical argument but you will never see a kurt cobain hologram because while he did change rock/grunge that genre has fallen off whereas rap/hip hop has become even more popular. Pac surely factored into that somehow

 

[SlickestR]

equal.

Cobain changed an entire Genre of Music. affected fashion.... and affected peoples thought process...

he made it cool to smell like a wet cigarette butt...

how you kill yourself cleaning a gun tho?

Pac did the same, but made it cool to be a thug with a heart so to speak....

it's called suicide.

 

[runningwolf1980]

tupac for all reason..first we "miss" pac...second "grung music" is long gone.....i could go on and on but point made

 

[bears2248]

2 Pac

 

[GeE-757]

@wolf...TABERNACLE!

 

[BobOblah]

Black people started Rock, so Cobain didn't do shit, nor did he mean shit to the genre. He's just a fiend that OD'd.

Pac had some songs that are straight up gems and timeless, so I'm rocking with Pac all day.

Sounds like Cobain was aware of this. I remember someone posted this on the IC at one point:

"Rap music is the only vital form of music introduced since punk rock," declares Kurt Cobain, vocalist and guitarist for Seattle's Nirvana, Geffen's new signing.

"I would never attempt rap music. There's no sense in it," Cobain says. "The people that do rap music do it just fine. I'm usually offended by people like Vanilla Ice. The white man has ripped off the black man for long enough. They should just leave the rap music to the African-Americans 'cause they do it so well."

 

[A1000MILES]

Damn, nice thread...I'd say during the span of their living careers, Kurt wins, because of how much his writing just instantly captured an age group who needed that void to be filled...It took Pac a minute to really become that huge superstar, and find exactly what his voice was gonna be...Posthumously, Pac's legacy is much stronger in modern rap than Kurt's is in modern rock, and I think it's because of the fact that he had strong social messages tied in with a hard image and delivery combined with the story around his last days...He helped create a new mold for what a rap superstar is.

 

[ocelot]

A good original thread in the IC?

 

[Washington_Red]

Pac's image> Kurt's

Cobain wasn't the first rock artist to die young or tragically.

 

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[Washington_Red]

^ Master P turned it into $600 million

 

[usmarin3]

Kurt Cobain released the best album to come out in the 90s and was alive during his peak. Most of Pacs success came post death. Nirvana was the face of the grunge movement.

 

[usmarin3]

Fyi Nirvana didnt not create grunge, Alice in Chains came out first and had success.

 

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[Swiffness!]

this is a real sketchy question cuz it all comes down to how you define Kurt's "genre":

if you make it simply "Rock Music" then Pac wins in a landslide cuz Kurt ain't fuckin wit Lennon or Hendrix and Kurt would be the first to co-sign dat

if you narrow it to "GRUNGE Rock" tho.....Kurt's death fucking killed Grunge single-handedly........like when Big died, major label execs were scared it was gonna kill Rap Music like Kurt's death killed Grunge

make it "Alternative Rock" and then its a toss-up lol

 

[usmarin3]

Alice in Chains is grunge, came from the same Seattle scene as Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Theyre not hard rock, hard rock Chilli Peppers, 311, Sublime, etc.