where the militant rap?

[zombie]

anyone bragging about black politicians is an idiot politicians are servants and they serve the power structure the same power structure that is indifferent to the struggles of black people

 

[rip.dilla]

I made a thread about dead prez's newest album but unsurprisingly it got few hits ..

The lyrics on there weren't to militant like their old efforts but more inspiring ..

Killer Mike's R. A. P. Music is a study in fearless socio-political lyricism ironically produced wholly by a White man

Are niggas forgetting NaS's N. I. G. G. E. R album and tape in 08?

Immortal Technique is always that nigga as well.

I still listen to the Last Poets shit and the late Gil-Scott Heron blunted up

 

[5 Grand]

Newsflash. We got a black president (albeit lightskinned). Public Enemy, BDP and Ice T were just a throwback of the civil rights era. You gotta remember 80s rap was really just 20 years removed from the civil rights era of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. So the 80s rappers were just reflecting that last twilight of the revolution.

One of the issues of the civil rights movement was immediate change vs slow gradual change. Back in the 50s and 60s Blacks were demanding immidiate change. Right now! But the change was gradual. By the 80s we had the Cosby Show, Arsenio Hall, Yo! MTV Raps. Also Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bo Jackson were all getting these sweet endorsement deals. Oprah had her daytime talk show. Spike Lee started producing and directing his own movies. Russell Simmons started his own rap label and released It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and Fear of a Black Planet on said label.

Bottom line, all of the change that people wanted has happenned. There's the odd George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case but for the most part, the racism of the early 20th century is over. We got a black Pres. We've had a Black Secretary of State. There's alot of Black CEOs. I remember hearing the CEO of American Express was Black a few years ago.

At the Million Man March Farrakhan said we need Atonement, which means we need to stop what we're doing and take a deep breath. We need to pray and make positive moves to do the right thing.

Honestly, I love Public Enemy and early Cube, but Black America just isn't in that place anymore. What we need isn't some angry, militant rapper. What we need is more college educated rappers who can put the world in perspective for the younger generation and saying "f*ck the police" isn't going to produce any positive results. Anybody can go to a community college and get a degree. If you don't have the money the government will pay for you to go to school and get an education. Thats what rappers need to rap about. Going to college and getting an education [But can you picture 50 Cent sitting at a board room meeting explaining to Jimmy Iovine that his next album is about how young Black males need to go to college?]

Fuck are you talking about? Is that all black people needed? Black CEO's and politicians? We lead in all categories of disease and homicide. Incarceration rates showing no sign of slowing down. For the first time in human history, the life expectancy of black men has decreased on average. Most black children are born into intrinsically dysfunctional single parent households. AND MORE BLACKS ARE IN COLLEGE THAN EVER. But we got all the change we need huh? I hope you aint black....if so...I feel sorry for your mother...

What are you talking about? I mean literally what are you talking about? What is it that "black people need". Just the phrase "black people need" is stupid as if all black people need the same thing. I don't know about you but I'm financially stable, I've got my own apartment, no warrants, my criminal record is clean I haven't had any issues with the police in years. Am I supposed to get on the mic and scream at the whiteman over a loud, fast beat with electric guitars screaming that Yacub grafted the whiteman on the Patmos Islands 6,000 years ago and his times up? Well guess what? Its already been done. As the threadstarter noted, 2Pac, early Cube and Public Enemy said all of that 20 years ago when it hadn't been said yet. Now its been said, let's move forward. Luxury, money, good homes and friendships in all walks of life. That's what I want.

Now you can take your wannabe Black Panther, no college degree having ass to the studio and yell into the mic about how you wanna kill all the white people you see and then try to make a career performing that kind of music in front of people. Good luck.

 

[Ear2DaSt]

Tired of label censorship and losing deals wit reebok and all that shit!

There's a lane for everybody!

Mainstream you should try to understand the real in what they came from!

Street Military

Some of their raps are militant but I bet there's white boyz in Texas jamming this shit as I speak!

This shit is street shit so it seems if you don't know people from the hood you might not never know!

 

[judahxulu]

Newsflash. We got a black president (albeit lightskinned). Public Enemy, BDP and Ice T were just a throwback of the civil rights era. You gotta remember 80s rap was really just 20 years removed from the civil rights era of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. So the 80s rappers were just reflecting that last twilight of the revolution.

One of the issues of the civil rights movement was immediate change vs slow gradual change. Back in the 50s and 60s Blacks were demanding immidiate change. Right now! But the change was gradual. By the 80s we had the Cosby Show, Arsenio Hall, Yo! MTV Raps. Also Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bo Jackson were all getting these sweet endorsement deals. Oprah had her daytime talk show. Spike Lee started producing and directing his own movies. Russell Simmons started his own rap label and released It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and Fear of a Black Planet on said label.

Bottom line, all of the change that people wanted has happenned. There's the odd George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case but for the most part, the racism of the early 20th century is over. We got a black Pres. We've had a Black Secretary of State. There's alot of Black CEOs. I remember hearing the CEO of American Express was Black a few years ago.

At the Million Man March Farrakhan said we need Atonement, which means we need to stop what we're doing and take a deep breath. We need to pray and make positive moves to do the right thing.

Honestly, I love Public Enemy and early Cube, but Black America just isn't in that place anymore. What we need isn't some angry, militant rapper. What we need is more college educated rappers who can put the world in perspective for the younger generation and saying "f*ck the police" isn't going to produce any positive results. Anybody can go to a community college and get a degree. If you don't have the money the government will pay for you to go to school and get an education. Thats what rappers need to rap about. Going to college and getting an education [But can you picture 50 Cent sitting at a board room meeting explaining to Jimmy Iovine that his next album is about how young Black males need to go to college?]

Fuck are you talking about? Is that all black people needed? Black CEO's and politicians? We lead in all categories of disease and homicide. Incarceration rates showing no sign of slowing down. For the first time in human history, the life expectancy of black men has decreased on average. Most black children are born into intrinsically dysfunctional single parent households. AND MORE BLACKS ARE IN COLLEGE THAN EVER. But we got all the change we need huh? I hope you aint black....if so...I feel sorry for your mother...

What are you talking about? I mean literally what are you talking about? What is it that "black people need". Just the phrase "black people need" is stupid as if all black people need the same thing. I don't know about you but I'm financially stable, I've got my own apartment, no warrants, my criminal record is clean I haven't had any issues with the police in years. Am I supposed to get on the mic and scream at the whiteman over a loud, fast beat with electric guitars screaming that Yacub grafted the whiteman on the Patmos Islands 6,000 years ago and his times up? Well guess what? Its already been done. As the threadstarter noted, 2Pac, early Cube and Public Enemy said all of that 20 years ago when it hadn't been said yet. Now its been said, let's move forward. Luxury, money, good homes and friendships in all walks of life. That's what I want.

Now you can take your wannabe Black Panther, no college degree having ass to the studio and yell into the mic about how you wanna kill all the white people you see and then try to make a career performing that kind of music in front of people. Good luck.

Ohhh...thats whats hot in the street, playboi? You just couldn't shut the fuck up and eat that humble pie, huh? So now we jump from discussing black people in general to splitting hairs over the needs of individual black people? WELL.....ALLOW ME TO RETORT. BLACK PEOPLE NEED....to be healthier. BLACK PEOPLE NEED.....to get locked up less. BLACK PEOPLE NEED...to do better with their money. Statistics support my statements you ignorant bitch.

Who mentioned Yaacub?

Screaming at white men?

Loud, uptempo electric guitars?

Now take your educated fool ass back to college and look up the term ad hominem. You'll find a picture of yourself there with Uncle Sam's lil weewee stuck balls deep in your weak jawline.....

BTW... if I was to be a rapper after the sort you mentioned...white people would be the ones primarily to hear it

 

[RawAce]

www.sellassiefrisco.com

Didn't even know dude made music

I jus know him fr promoting them pay to perform events

 

[RawAce]

If you want some militant rap try some AISHA SEKHMET

She too real

Alotta folks can't stomach her lyrics

Me,

I want a baby wit her

 

[young_reezy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWKSPxo-4yM

the Black Dot

 

[str8 soulja]

Everything pac n cube talked about is just as if not more relevant today.

 

[str8 soulja]

I hear that joey badass dude is a lupe type?

 

[str8 soulja]

I use to think kendrick lamar was gon b a militant rapper.hiiipower was a one time thing i guess.

 

[Wild Self]

Blame it on the old heads that shitted on Public Enemy, but ran with NWA's image and "Niggas4Life" album that promoted "real nigga shit." It really harmed HIp Hop's creativity and eventually its spirit of rebellion. Before then, everyone wanted to be different. Since then, every nigga screams that they are a "real nigga" and they are "true to the streets" instead of being individuals.

Can't blame the old heads because there was way more positive shit out then and it wasn't looked down upon

I don't blame NWA for shit because 1 they started as a parody and 2 they were representing a lifestyle that was really going on.

You can't have ying w/out yang

The streets are real

Yeah but it came out later those niggas were on that CB4... with the exception of Eazy but he defaulted by selling his soul to Jerry Heller. Niggas saying "Fuck the Police" yet in still that nigga rubbing elbows with Bush at a Republican dinner. I remember the excuse put out there like he somehow outsmarted them and they didn't know who they were inviting until he showed up... GTFOH. Aint nobody just showing up at the fucking White House with no background check... what kind of fucking national security would that be? What has become reality in the streets is based on calculated falsehoods. The reality is and will allways be that there are more regs and civilians in the hood than killers and dealers. NWA started the sickness of making it trendy under the guise of "street knowledge". The Panthers were from the streets. So was Malcolm X.... so what was NWA really saying and what was their purpose?? Notice how Ren has been kept quiet???

Yep. There you have it. The Chickens have come home to roost when the generation that failed militant rap and modeled the gangsta rap/ image are raising kids that are like Drake. When that foundation failed, everything went to hell in terms of skill level, classic moments, and timeless messages. Hate when people use the "streets" to fuel their selfish agenda and to keep people's minds in mental slavery.

 

[Wild Self]

Also, have you noticed that many of these old heads and retro heads are doing their best to eliminate militant rap out of history books altogether? Many of these old heads never mention them and are doing their best to make younger heads think that 90s was all about gangsta rap.

 

[5 Grand]

Newsflash. We got a black president (albeit lightskinned). Public Enemy, BDP and Ice T were just a throwback of the civil rights era. You gotta remember 80s rap was really just 20 years removed from the civil rights era of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. So the 80s rappers were just reflecting that last twilight of the revolution.

One of the issues of the civil rights movement was immediate change vs slow gradual change. Back in the 50s and 60s Blacks were demanding immidiate change. Right now! But the change was gradual. By the 80s we had the Cosby Show, Arsenio Hall, Yo! MTV Raps. Also Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bo Jackson were all getting these sweet endorsement deals. Oprah had her daytime talk show. Spike Lee started producing and directing his own movies. Russell Simmons started his own rap label and released It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and Fear of a Black Planet on said label.

Bottom line, all of the change that people wanted has happenned. There's the odd George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case but for the most part, the racism of the early 20th century is over. We got a black Pres. We've had a Black Secretary of State. There's alot of Black CEOs. I remember hearing the CEO of American Express was Black a few years ago.

At the Million Man March Farrakhan said we need Atonement, which means we need to stop what we're doing and take a deep breath. We need to pray and make positive moves to do the right thing.

Honestly, I love Public Enemy and early Cube, but Black America just isn't in that place anymore. What we need isn't some angry, militant rapper. What we need is more college educated rappers who can put the world in perspective for the younger generation and saying "f*ck the police" isn't going to produce any positive results. Anybody can go to a community college and get a degree. If you don't have the money the government will pay for you to go to school and get an education. Thats what rappers need to rap about. Going to college and getting an education [But can you picture 50 Cent sitting at a board room meeting explaining to Jimmy Iovine that his next album is about how young Black males need to go to college?]

Fuck are you talking about? Is that all black people needed? Black CEO's and politicians? We lead in all categories of disease and homicide. Incarceration rates showing no sign of slowing down. For the first time in human history, the life expectancy of black men has decreased on average. Most black children are born into intrinsically dysfunctional single parent households. AND MORE BLACKS ARE IN COLLEGE THAN EVER. But we got all the change we need huh? I hope you aint black....if so...I feel sorry for your mother...

What are you talking about? I mean literally what are you talking about? What is it that "black people need". Just the phrase "black people need" is stupid as if all black people need the same thing. I don't know about you but I'm financially stable, I've got my own apartment, no warrants, my criminal record is clean I haven't had any issues with the police in years. Am I supposed to get on the mic and scream at the whiteman over a loud, fast beat with electric guitars screaming that Yacub grafted the whiteman on the Patmos Islands 6,000 years ago and his times up? Well guess what? Its already been done. As the threadstarter noted, 2Pac, early Cube and Public Enemy said all of that 20 years ago when it hadn't been said yet. Now its been said, let's move forward. Luxury, money, good homes and friendships in all walks of life. That's what I want.

Now you can take your wannabe Black Panther, no college degree having ass to the studio and yell into the mic about how you wanna kill all the white people you see and then try to make a career performing that kind of music in front of people. Good luck.

Ohhh...thats whats hot in the street, playboi? You just couldn't shut the fuck up and eat that humble pie, huh? So now we jump from discussing black people in general to splitting hairs over the needs of individual black people? WELL.....ALLOW ME TO RETORT. BLACK PEOPLE NEED....to be healthier. BLACK PEOPLE NEED.....to get locked up less. BLACK PEOPLE NEED...to do better with their money. Statistics support my statements you ignorant bitch.

Who mentioned Yaacub?

Screaming at white men?

Loud, uptempo electric guitars?

Now take your educated fool ass back to college and look up the term ad hominem. You'll find a picture of yourself there with Uncle Sam's lil weewee stuck balls deep in your weak jawline.....

BTW... if I was to be a rapper after the sort you mentioned...white people would be the ones primarily to hear it

You say "look up the term ad hominem" yet in your earlier post you say "I hope you aint black....if so...I feel sorry for your mother" which is an ad hominem attack in itself. That condradicts whatever point you were trying to make.

Here's the bottom line, Public Enemy, Death Certificate era Ice Cube, 2Pacalypse era 2Pac, Cop Killer era Ice T and Paris is the stuff that my generation grew up on. I graduated in 1991 so all that stuff was out when I was a teenager. Also Poor Righteous Teachers, King Sun, X Clan, even KRS One and Rakim. They all, to varying degrees spoke on politics, racism, afrocentricity and African-American and/or Asiatic culture. Thats what my generation grew up on so I'm qualified to speak on it.

Now its 20-25 years later, the people in my generation are in our late 30s/early 40s. I'll be 40 next week. The music we grew up on molded us and made us into what we are today. Along with the role models I mentioned like Bill Cosby, Oprah, Spike Lee, Michael Jordan, Colin Powel, Minister Farrakhan and the list goes on.

Now the question I have for you is; Who is the Original man? What does 'My name is W.F Muhammad' mean? Why isn't the devil settled on the best part of the planet earth? Who made the Holy Koran or Bible? How long ago? Will you tell us why does Islam re-new her history every twenty-five thousand years? What is the area of the Pacific Ocean? How far is Mercury from the Sun?

The uncle of Mr. W. D. Fard lived in the wilderness of North America and he lived other than his own self, therefore, his pulse beat seventy-eight times per minute and this killed him in forty-five years of age. How many times did his pulse beat in forty-five years?

What's today's mathematics?

How many Muslim sons are there in North America?

What is the meaning of civilization?

Mars, the inhabited Planet, is one hundred forty-one million, five hundred thousand miles from the Sun, andshe travels one thousand thirty-seven and one-third miles per hour. Her diameter is four thousand two hundred miles. Then Mr. Ali wants to know how many days will it take Mars to make one complete circumference around the Sun?