where the militant rap?

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I'm with T/S. niggas need someone to motivate them and get that fire in their belly again....that's one reason why the LA riots happened, niggas had P.E, king sun, cube and others shouting black power.
 
I honestly just dont think people are that angry anymore... These days its more psychological than physical deprivation so when dudes do voice disdain, it just sounds like they're whining

I still hear them at open mics and what not but usually their image isnt compelling enough to get them past that stage

There's gotta be movement behind the words, you cant talk some conspiracy shit/government hates me and stay hidden behind your computer
 
Wild Self;6271567 said:
Blame it on the old heads that shitted on Public Enemy, but ran with NWA's image and "Niggas4Life" album that promoted "real nigga shit." It really harmed HIp Hop's creativity and eventually its spirit of rebellion. Before then, everyone wanted to be different. Since then, every nigga screams that they are a "real nigga" and they are "true to the streets" instead of being individuals.

Can't blame the old heads because there was way more positive shit out then and it wasn't looked down upon

I don't blame NWA for shit because 1 they started as a parody and 2 they were representing a lifestyle that was really going on.

You can't have ying w/out yang

The streets are real
 
aladdin1978;6276760 said:
I'm with T/S. niggas need someone to motivate them and get that fire in their belly again....that's one reason why the LA riots happened, niggas had P.E, king sun, cube and others shouting black power.

George Zimmerman shit was the perfect opportunity for Hip Hop to step up and take charge of public opinion. Instead, we see people rather get fucked up and turned up in the club every weekend blasting Future or Gucci.

 
loch121;6277046 said:
Wild Self;6271567 said:
Blame it on the old heads that shitted on Public Enemy, but ran with NWA's image and "Niggas4Life" album that promoted "real nigga shit." It really harmed HIp Hop's creativity and eventually its spirit of rebellion. Before then, everyone wanted to be different. Since then, every nigga screams that they are a "real nigga" and they are "true to the streets" instead of being individuals.

Can't blame the old heads because there was way more positive shit out then and it wasn't looked down upon

I don't blame NWA for shit because 1 they started as a parody and 2 they were representing a lifestyle that was really going on.

You can't have ying w/out yang

The streets are real

The streets are real, but they harmed chances of change and aspiring to do better in people.
 
loch121;6277046 said:
Wild Self;6271567 said:
Blame it on the old heads that shitted on Public Enemy, but ran with NWA's image and "Niggas4Life" album that promoted "real nigga shit." It really harmed HIp Hop's creativity and eventually its spirit of rebellion. Before then, everyone wanted to be different. Since then, every nigga screams that they are a "real nigga" and they are "true to the streets" instead of being individuals.

Can't blame the old heads because there was way more positive shit out then and it wasn't looked down upon

I don't blame NWA for shit because 1 they started as a parody and 2 they were representing a lifestyle that was really going on.

You can't have ying w/out yang

The streets are real

Yeah but it came out later those niggas were on that CB4... with the exception of Eazy but he defaulted by selling his soul to Jerry Heller. Niggas saying "Fuck the Police" yet in still that nigga rubbing elbows with Bush at a Republican dinner. I remember the excuse put out there like he somehow outsmarted them and they didn't know who they were inviting until he showed up... GTFOH. Aint nobody just showing up at the fucking White House with no background check... what kind of fucking national security would that be? What has become reality in the streets is based on calculated falsehoods. The reality is and will allways be that there are more regs and civilians in the hood than killers and dealers. NWA started the sickness of making it trendy under the guise of "street knowledge". The Panthers were from the streets. So was Malcolm X.... so what was NWA really saying and what was their purpose?? Notice how Ren has been kept quiet???
 
Most militant rap has been a sham too. All most niggas do is complain about the issues but offer no solutions besides some kind of fantasized clash with police or other government agencies. Yeah the fuck right..... I like that stuff too but the Truth is the Truth.
 
Where the fans are - in the club "turning up"/"acting ratchet"/"worldstarin'"/"camera phonin'".

So unfortunately, that's where militant rap is. There's gotta be a market for it.

Even in the 80's and 90's it was the same. There were alot of stories involving race with black people being on the losing end that started riots, debates and sparks, hence the militant rap.

But if everybody wanna "turn up", why should anyone rap about it when nobody's supporting?
 
Newsflash. We got a black president (albeit lightskinned). Public Enemy, BDP and Ice T were just a throwback of the civil rights era. You gotta remember 80s rap was really just 20 years removed from the civil rights era of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. So the 80s rappers were just reflecting that last twilight of the revolution.

One of the issues of the civil rights movement was immediate change vs slow gradual change. Back in the 50s and 60s Blacks were demanding immidiate change. Right now! But the change was gradual. By the 80s we had the Cosby Show, Arsenio Hall, Yo! MTV Raps. Also Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bo Jackson were all getting these sweet endorsement deals. Oprah had her daytime talk show. Spike Lee started producing and directing his own movies. Russell Simmons started his own rap label and released It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and Fear of a Black Planet on said label.

Bottom line, all of the change that people wanted has happenned. There's the odd George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case but for the most part, the racism of the early 20th century is over. We got a black Pres. We've had a Black Secretary of State. There's alot of Black CEOs. I remember hearing the CEO of American Express was Black a few years ago.

At the Million Man March Farrakhan said we need Atonement, which means we need to stop what we're doing and take a deep breath. We need to pray and make positive moves to do the right thing.

Honestly, I love Public Enemy and early Cube, but Black America just isn't in that place anymore. What we need isn't some angry, militant rapper. What we need is more college educated rappers who can put the world in perspective for the younger generation and saying "f*ck the police" isn't going to produce any positive results. Anybody can go to a community college and get a degree. If you don't have the money the government will pay for you to go to school and get an education. Thats what rappers need to rap about. Going to college and getting an education [But can you picture 50 Cent sitting at a board room meeting explaining to Jimmy Iovine that his next album is about how young Black males need to go to college?]
 
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5 Grand;6280076 said:
Newsflash. We got a black president (albeit lightskinned). Public Enemy, BDP and Ice T were just a throwback of the civil rights era. You gotta remember 80s rap was really just 20 years removed from the civil rights era of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. So the 80s rappers were just reflecting that last twilight of the revolution.

One of the issues of the civil rights movement was immediate change vs slow gradual change. Back in the 50s and 60s Blacks were demanding immidiate change. Right now! But the change was gradual. By the 80s we had the Cosby Show, Arsenio Hall, Yo! MTV Raps. Also Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bo Jackson were all getting these sweet endorsement deals. Oprah had her daytime talk show. Spike Lee started producing and directing his own movies. Russell Simmons started his own rap label and released It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back and Fear of a Black Planet on said label.

Bottom line, all of the change that people wanted has happenned. There's the odd George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case but for the most part, the racism of the early 20th century is over. We got a black Pres. We've had a Black Secretary of State. There's alot of Black CEOs. I remember hearing the CEO of American Express was Black a few years ago.

At the Million Man March Farrakhan said we need Atonement, which means we need to stop what we're doing and take a deep breath. We need to pray and make positive moves to do the right thing.

Honestly, I love Public Enemy and early Cube, but Black America just isn't in that place anymore. What we need isn't some angry, militant rapper. What we need is more college educated rappers who can put the world in perspective for the younger generation and saying "f*ck the police" isn't going to produce any positive results. Anybody can go to a community college and get a degree. If you don't have the money the government will pay for you to go to school and get an education. Thats what rappers need to rap about. Going to college and getting an education [But can you picture 50 Cent sitting at a board room meeting explaining to Jimmy Iovine that his next album is about how young Black males need to go to college?]

Fuck are you talking about? Is that all black people needed? Black CEO's and politicians? We lead in all categories of disease and homicide. Incarceration rates showing no sign of slowing down. For the first time in human history, the life expectancy of black men has decreased on average. Most black children are born into intrinsically dysfunctional single parent households. AND MORE BLACKS ARE IN COLLEGE THAN EVER. But we got all the change we need huh? I hope you aint black....if so...I feel sorry for your mother...
 

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