Where does Chris Jericho rank on your GOAT list?

[Already Home_17]

wouldnt it make sense for customers to cheer for the wrestlers they paid to see? let me repeat, PAID TO SEE

wouldnt that count as drawing?

and wouldnt that mean that wrestler had an impact on the fanbase and the industry?

the same criteria you set for a GOAT?

yet one of the most popular and respected wrestlers doesnt qualify as one although he matches your criteria?

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

 

[Already Home_17]

ottb been on some bullshit this whole week

let me get this straight

we're talking about our favorite wrestlers and niggas are bringing up drawing power?

didn't business go down when they tried to make hhh the guy?

reign of terror anyone? he drew fans AWAY from raw

didn't business go down when they tried to make warrior the guy too? so much for drawing power

y'all really enjoyed Andre the Giant's matches like that? I rather watch the big show wrestle in 2015

and john cena? i dont hate dude but better than Jericho?

all hope is lost

Ratings naturally dropped when HHH was the guy bc Rock and Stone Cold left, when HHH was World Champ in 2000 his ratings were actually higher than Rocks.. ill try to find the source.

you said he could draw though. no excuses

you saying he could draw when rock and austin was in the company with him but couldnt draw when they left?

what does that tell you? THEY were drawing

I said he was a bigger draw than Jericho and that's true

the same dude who played politics to stay at the top regardless of how much the fans grew sick of him cant be taken seriously as a "draw" imo

because while he was "drawing", the raw brand was suffering

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

wouldnt it make sense for customers to cheer for the wrestlers they paid to see? let me repeat, PAID TO SEE

wouldnt that count as drawing?

and wouldnt that mean that wrestler had an impact on the fanbase and the industry?

the same criteria you set for a GOAT?

yet one of the most popular and respected wrestlers doesnt qualify as one although he matches your criteria?

Nope, the hate for triple h was so big that anyone beating him would have got that pop, including Maven, Essa Rios, Al Snow, Perry Saturn and even Dean Malenko. That crowd came to see the Rock and Steve Austin, Jericho didn't draw them there

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

That's your opinion that they are further away I feel those guys are better. Those guys brought more to the business than Y2J

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

That's your opinion that they are further away I feel those guys are better. Those guys brought more to the business than Y2J

this is why i keep asking criteria. i wanna understand. cuz i certainly cant see it from an in ring aspect.

 

[blu197]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

That's your opinion that they are further away I feel those guys are better. Those guys brought more to the business than Y2J

this is why i keep asking criteria. i wanna understand. cuz i certainly cant see it from an in ring aspect.

What did Jericho do in ring that was special or different from the guys Chi Town has ahead of him?

 

[Already Home_17]

wouldnt it make sense for customers to cheer for the wrestlers they paid to see? let me repeat, PAID TO SEE

wouldnt that count as drawing?

and wouldnt that mean that wrestler had an impact on the fanbase and the industry?

the same criteria you set for a GOAT?

yet one of the most popular and respected wrestlers doesnt qualify as one although he matches your criteria?

Nope, the hate for triple h was so big that anyone beating him would have got that pop, including Maven, Essa Rios, Al Snow, Perry Saturn and even Dean Malenko. That crowd came to see the Rock and Steve Austin, Jericho didn't draw them there

but it wasnt anyone

there's a reason why he got that spot and the rest didnt

hell the rock got boo'd at times when he went up against jericho in 2001

i guess everyone who paid to see the rock forgot once jericho came out

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

That's your opinion that they are further away I feel those guys are better. Those guys brought more to the business than Y2J

this is why i keep asking criteria. i wanna understand. cuz i certainly cant see it from an in ring aspect.

What did Jericho do in ring that was special or different from the guys Chi Town has ahead of him?

The rest I would put ahead of Jericho, they not Goat status but I'll name them before I get to Jericho

Kurt Angle

Triple H

Roddy Piper

Dusty Rhodes

John Cena

Brock Lesnar

Ricky Steamboat

Ultimate Warrior

Jake the Snake Roberts

Andre The Giant

Mr Perfect

Mick Foley

Randy Orton

Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase

Eddie Guerrero

Scott Hall/Razor Ramon

Diamond Dallas Paige

with names like bolded that question shouldnt even have to be asked.

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

That's your opinion that they are further away I feel those guys are better. Those guys brought more to the business than Y2J

this is why i keep asking criteria. i wanna understand. cuz i certainly cant see it from an in ring aspect.

A wrestling legend isn't all about in ring aspect, if that was the case Hogan wouldn't be in anyone's top 5

I like those guys characters, they were also good in the ring for what they were asked to do, they all had classic matches under their belt.

Dean Malenko in ring aspect was top notch but where is he on your list, it's not only about in ring

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

thats why i keep emphasizing all around jack of all trades with jericho.

 

[Already Home_17]

like jericho didnt have mic skills

like jericho didn't have classics

like jericho didnt have character and the ability to switch it up at a dime

yall argument is looking funny in the light

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

like jericho didnt have mic skills

like jericho didn't have classics

like jericho didnt have character and the ability to switch it up at a dime

yall argument is looking funny in the light

Never said he didn't, I just like those guys more

 

[blu197]

Y'all think I'm saying he's wack but I'm not but when you start talking legends you will not put Jericho in that category

thats fine but im tryna understand how niggas are placing cats even farther away from goat status than jericho, over jericho lol

That's your opinion that they are further away I feel those guys are better. Those guys brought more to the business than Y2J

this is why i keep asking criteria. i wanna understand. cuz i certainly cant see it from an in ring aspect.

What did Jericho do in ring that was special or different from the guys Chi Town has ahead of him?

The rest I would put ahead of Jericho, they not Goat status but I'll name them before I get to Jericho

Kurt Angle

Triple H

Roddy Piper

Dusty Rhodes

John Cena

Brock Lesnar

Ricky Steamboat

Ultimate Warrior

Jake the Snake Roberts

Andre The Giant

Mr Perfect

Mick Foley

Randy Orton

Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase

Eddie Guerrero

Scott Hall/Razor Ramon

Diamond Dallas Paige

with names like bolded that question shouldnt even have to be asked.

So in other words no answer

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

nigga the answer right there! u tryna tell me jericho did nothing that stood out in ring from roddy piper or got damn dre the giant or cena who u shit on every chance u get? how in the hell he even make it to your top 25 then?!

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

nigga the answer right there! u tryna tell me jericho did nothing that stood out in ring from roddy piper or got damn dre the giant or cena who u shit on every chance u get? how in the hell he even make it to your top 25 then?!

I hate Cena but I can't deny what he's done for the business. Dude is well known inside and outside wrestling mainstream. Who the hell is listening to Fozzy or whatever else Jericho got going

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

nigga the answer right there! u tryna tell me jericho did nothing that stood out in ring from roddy piper or got damn dre the giant or cena who u shit on every chance u get? how in the hell he even make it to your top 25 then?!

I hate Cena but I can't deny what he's done for the business. Dude is well known inside and outside wrestling mainstream. Who the hell is listening to Fozzy or whatever else Jericho got going

i was talkin in ring wit that post

but on the subject of outside wrestling. cena is a bigger name, but b4 cena started doin big things outside wrestling, lets not pretend like jericho wasnt all over vh1 and mtv shows damn near every week. hosting abc shows, dancing with the stars, and his books plus fozzy is a legit successful touring band (which is how he ends up with all those hall of fame rock artists on his podcasts), not just some passion jericho hopes gets off the ground.

 

[jono]

Damn the debate is lively. Let me chuck in a little bit here:.

1. Andre is a huge draw but he was an attraction. You didnt see Andre every week or even every month. He wasn't there to have good matches or promos it was mostly "entertainment" like the bearded lady or the elephant man at the circus

2. Jericho is a draw. The term "draw" is relative, there are different levels to drawing. They gave him multiple world titles, put out two DVD sets, he had hella merchandise...they don't invest that much money in people who don't draw.

3. Jericho as a Jack of All Trades is top 15 at least. Great heel, great face, great promos, great matches, decent look and a decent draw. He's a legend.

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Top 15, that,s a big stretch

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

It's all subjective, everybody's list won't be the same. Dude just wasn't all that great to me