Whens the best time to have children?

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evoljeanyes;4891209 said:
SocialAssassinRati;4891177 said:
VIBE;4889801 said:
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VIBE;4889136 said:
Yeah, I'm married. I've been with her for 12 years, married 4.

The first one, it was easy. Aside the nights and what not, it was peaceful and easy. Now with 4, it's hella difficult, constant fighting, a billion questions, trying to keep them all in check etc... It's stressful and hectic.

Can't wait until they grow out of this stage, everything is such a big deal to them LOL

damn bruh...yall were together 8 of them thangs BEFORE marriage...that shit should count toward the marriage like federal retirement plans or something...my girl and I been together two yrs and living together 1 and I might be bout ready to pop the ?.

I don't care about marriage TBH, it's stupid. We're together many years, we were practically "married".

C/S I think the institution of marriage is dumb an archaic as well...but women love it probably all that fairy tale shit growing up and the fact that its more beneficial to them than us but unlike the vast majority of bitches that tend to be in love with the idea of marriage but not understand nor care about the concept...the one I have does I guess when you grow up upper middle class with both parents you tend to understand the natural order of things and a relationship and believe in patriarchy...all that shit...thats the ONLY reason i'm considering it.

but congratz bruh

Does your girl want marriage? If so how do those conversations go?

yeah she does but she understands my position and I understand hers...my position is that its outdated and archaic and honestly serves no intrinsic purpose...ie its not going to make me act right if i wasnt before nor will it make me love you or care about you anymore

hers is that she is traditional and believes in the institution but it basically just boils down to her believes and I can totally dig that since she conservative,artsy, stepford wifish 90% of the time, she is patriarchal in her beliefs and understand and believes in the idea of marriage...shes not one of these I wanna get married but i dont really know what it means psuedo-egalitarian new-age bitches..plus she's fly and cuban so I'd marry her...just waiting and debating within myself like I said its only been about two yrs and weve lived together for 1 of them so we'll see
 
evoljeanyes;4890276 said:
atribecalledgabi;4890230 said:
evoljeanyes;4889890 said:
atribecalledgabi;4889720 said:
eh...at first i was anti kids but now i'm like if im settled down with the right one and he wants kids i would be open to it. although personally i'd rather adopt.

don't wana have that convo before 30 tho

Not before 30? Why? School, freedom or finances?

freedom mostly. i'm too selfish & inattentive to others to have to care about kid right now so i figure by 30 i will have softened up to the idea.

That's understandable. Are you considering not doing it at all?

i've had that mentality for a while...the only way i'd jump in with it is if i could provide stability. no bm/bd shit, no unwanted "accidents" that we weren't trying for...if i have kids, how they turn out is how they turn out. but i'm not fuckin em up their chances from the beginning. if i can't provide stability then it's a no-go.
 
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atribecalledgabi;4892239 said:
evoljeanyes;4890276 said:
atribecalledgabi;4890230 said:
evoljeanyes;4889890 said:
atribecalledgabi;4889720 said:
eh...at first i was anti kids but now i'm like if im settled down with the right one and he wants kids i would be open to it. although personally i'd rather adopt.

don't wana have that convo before 30 tho

Not before 30? Why? School, freedom or finances?

freedom mostly. i'm too selfish & inattentive to others to have to care about kid right now so i figure by 30 i will have softened up to the idea.

That's understandable. Are you considering not doing it at all?

i've had that mentality for a while...the only way i'd jump in with it is if i could provide stability. no bm/bd shit, no unwanted "accidents" that we weren't trying for...if i have kids, how they turn out is how they turn out. but i'm not fuckin em up their chances from the beginning. if i can't provide stability then it's a no-go.

I say don't do it. The planets already overpopulated. Its not going to enhance your life especially of you don't think you're suited to do it
 
SocialAssassinRati;4892118 said:
evoljeanyes;4891209 said:
SocialAssassinRati;4891177 said:
VIBE;4889801 said:
SocialAssassinRati;4889691 said:
VIBE;4889136 said:
Yeah, I'm married. I've been with her for 12 years, married 4.

The first one, it was easy. Aside the nights and what not, it was peaceful and easy. Now with 4, it's hella difficult, constant fighting, a billion questions, trying to keep them all in check etc... It's stressful and hectic.

Can't wait until they grow out of this stage, everything is such a big deal to them LOL

damn bruh...yall were together 8 of them thangs BEFORE marriage...that shit should count toward the marriage like federal retirement plans or something...my girl and I been together two yrs and living together 1 and I might be bout ready to pop the ?.

I don't care about marriage TBH, it's stupid. We're together many years, we were practically "married".

C/S I think the institution of marriage is dumb an archaic as well...but women love it probably all that fairy tale shit growing up and the fact that its more beneficial to them than us but unlike the vast majority of bitches that tend to be in love with the idea of marriage but not understand nor care about the concept...the one I have does I guess when you grow up upper middle class with both parents you tend to understand the natural order of things and a relationship and believe in patriarchy...all that shit...thats the ONLY reason i'm considering it.

but congratz bruh

Does your girl want marriage? If so how do those conversations go?

yeah she does but she understands my position and I understand hers...my position is that its outdated and archaic and honestly serves no intrinsic purpose...ie its not going to make me act right if i wasnt before nor will it make me love you or care about you anymore

hers is that she is traditional and believes in the institution but it basically just boils down to her believes and I can totally dig that since she conservative,artsy, stepford wifish 90% of the time, she is patriarchal in her beliefs and understand and believes in the idea of marriage...shes not one of these I wanna get married but i dont really know what it means psuedo-egalitarian new-age bitches..plus she's fly and cuban so I'd marry her...just waiting and debating within myself like I said its only been about two yrs and weve lived together for 1 of them so we'll see

If you don't care about marriage and its just tradition for her, why are you bucking? Smh at egalitarian and archaic. Those words are misused brother. Pseudo-egalitarian? You don't believe people are equal? Archaic...when saying all these new age (current hoes) want to get married, makes it hella in-style.

 
To me there wasnothing better than being a young dad. I loved every minute of being 20 years, and really being there for youngin. The best part was that I was young enough to SHOW him EVERYTHING... play ball, ride a bike, play baseball, football, skateboard, etc, while the old dads couldn't.

We struggled (she worked P/T and I worked 2 jobs and went to school FT) til we graduated college and got real jobs, but I wouldn't trade those times for anything
 
evoljeanyes;4890628 said:
RuffDraft;4890310 said:
Why bother having children? Why not see the world with the one that you love and share and indulge in all that you love and be able to live a stable, secure and enjoyable lifestyle? I see no point of having children, all they seem to do is bring stress, bills and joy; the first two means that I'm out as the latter can be found elsewhere.

This is how I used to think...but its not so bad.

So do you guys think girls or boys are more difficult

Would you prefer a life without them or consider your life as better than 'not so bad' before you had them?
 
RuffDraft;4892389 said:
evoljeanyes;4890628 said:
RuffDraft;4890310 said:
Why bother having children? Why not see the world with the one that you love and share and indulge in all that you love and be able to live a stable, secure and enjoyable lifestyle? I see no point of having children, all they seem to do is bring stress, bills and joy; the first two means that I'm out as the latter can be found elsewhere.

This is how I used to think...but its not so bad.

So do you guys think girls or boys are more difficult

Would you prefer a life without them or consider your life as better than 'not so bad' before you had them?

It was a figure of speech to nullify and poke fun at the hyperbole of all they bring is stress and bills.

My life is great as I stated before. Having one kid doesn't feel like a burden. His grandmother calls for him constantly. They spend time together and I have a gang of cousins nieces and nephews s he has places to go and play. We vacay hard 4 times a year. He comes twice...twice just us. I take trips with my friends and she takes him and vice versa. Its no big deal.
 
evoljeanyes;4892354 said:
SocialAssassinRati;4892118 said:
evoljeanyes;4891209 said:
SocialAssassinRati;4891177 said:
VIBE;4889801 said:
SocialAssassinRati;4889691 said:
VIBE;4889136 said:
Yeah, I'm married. I've been with her for 12 years, married 4.

The first one, it was easy. Aside the nights and what not, it was peaceful and easy. Now with 4, it's hella difficult, constant fighting, a billion questions, trying to keep them all in check etc... It's stressful and hectic.

Can't wait until they grow out of this stage, everything is such a big deal to them LOL

damn bruh...yall were together 8 of them thangs BEFORE marriage...that shit should count toward the marriage like federal retirement plans or something...my girl and I been together two yrs and living together 1 and I might be bout ready to pop the ?.

I don't care about marriage TBH, it's stupid. We're together many years, we were practically "married".

C/S I think the institution of marriage is dumb an archaic as well...but women love it probably all that fairy tale shit growing up and the fact that its more beneficial to them than us but unlike the vast majority of bitches that tend to be in love with the idea of marriage but not understand nor care about the concept...the one I have does I guess when you grow up upper middle class with both parents you tend to understand the natural order of things and a relationship and believe in patriarchy...all that shit...thats the ONLY reason i'm considering it.

but congratz bruh

Does your girl want marriage? If so how do those conversations go?

yeah she does but she understands my position and I understand hers...my position is that its outdated and archaic and honestly serves no intrinsic purpose...ie its not going to make me act right if i wasnt before nor will it make me love you or care about you anymore

hers is that she is traditional and believes in the institution but it basically just boils down to her believes and I can totally dig that since she conservative,artsy, stepford wifish 90% of the time, she is patriarchal in her beliefs and understand and believes in the idea of marriage...shes not one of these I wanna get married but i dont really know what it means psuedo-egalitarian new-age bitches..plus she's fly and cuban so I'd marry her...just waiting and debating within myself like I said its only been about two yrs and weve lived together for 1 of them so we'll see

If you don't care about marriage and its just tradition for her, why are you bucking? Smh at egalitarian and archaic. Those words are misused brother. Pseudo-egalitarian? You don't believe people are equal? Archaic...when saying all these new age (current hoes) want to get married, makes it hella in-style.

I say pseudo because you either believe that men and women are equal or you dont...the majority of these people arent actually egalitarian idealist when it comes the men/women you and I both know it. A lot of women's translations is that I'm equal to you except for when it comes to things I be a man should do based of his gender and tradition. Do I believe that all people are equal...in a sense of basic human rights yes but socioeconomics no, ideals no, morality no. Some people are better and some are worse than others. The only thing that is the same is that we are all humans and all deserve the equal opp and basic human rights. If were we a truly egalitarian then a lot of the issues that the sexes bicker about wouldnt be issues. How do you misuse the word egalitarian...it means a truly equal society. People dont want that. How do you misuse the word archaic? I simply means old as fuck. I think the concept of marriage is old as fuck...and these new age bitches want to get married for the sake of getting married but they dont understand the old ass concept of marriage nor do they agree with it.

Thats exactly why...I dont care about marriage but I care about her and its really important to her but not me however she is important to me....i dont understand whats so difficult to understand?
 
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I say pseudo because you either believe that men and women are equal or you dont...the majority of these people arent actually egalitarian idealist when it comes the men/women you and I both know it. A lot of women's translations is that I'm equal to you except for when it comes to things I be a man should do based of his gender and tradition. Do I believe that all people are equal...in a sense of basic human rights yes but socioeconomics no, ideals no, morality no. Some people are better and some are worse than others. The only thing that is the same is that we are all humans and all deserve the equal opp and basic human rights. If were we a truly egalitarian then a lot of the issues that the sexes bicker about wouldnt be issues. How do you misuse the word egalitarian...it means a truly equal society. People dont want that. How do you misuse the word archaic? I simply means old as fuck. I think the concept of marriage is old as fuck...and these new age bitches want to get married for the sake of getting married but they dont understand the old ass concept of marriage nor do they agree with it.

Thats exactly why...I dont care about marriage but I care about her and its really important to her but not oo however she is important to me....i dont understand whats so difficult to understand?[/quote]

I hear you. You're wording was weird. The concept isnt outdated. People are just stupid. I was confused because you said you wanted it and she doesn't. I just wanted an explanation g. I think you're. A good poster no disrespect. But egalitarian to me means all people have the opportunity to excel at something. No ones better than anyone across the board.

I understand your stance. If you love the women and she wants it for the right reason why are you using the way other people handle it as reasoning to potentially not do it.

 
RuffDraft;4890221 said:
So ILL;4890027 said:
At least when you're mature enough and your money is right. I see too many people nowadays having them like it's nothing. And a lot of them don't have a lot of money (or none at all), and are still kind of naive in the mind. It's kind of sad to see...

I'm 26, and my parents are starting to put some pressure on me to give them Grandchildren. I couldn't see myself having any until I was about 30, though. I think they can wait a few more years lol..

Forget your parents, if it's not that big on your list, don't do it!

I teach, I wouldn't have any children.

To all my future wifeys, 'Never gonna get it' is my response to that question in advance. Word to En Vogue.

I'm not worried too much about them in that sense. I know I'll still have to raise the child at the end of the day, and I'm not wanting any part of that life right now. Too many things that I want too experience as a young, childless man. My people will be alright, they can find a baby to play with if it's that serious lol..

 
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