Whats better to invest in: Computer science degree vs Buisness degree

[cannonspike1994]

Computer Science its alot of fun.

 

[cannonspike1994]

Much respect to y'all, I'm definitely weighing my options. I just wanna avoid math any way possible knowing I have to do it in the computer field lol.

Honestly speaking, I don't have a passion for none of this shit, and its hella tedious. I just wanna invest in a nice paying job as a security blanket to do what I really want to do. I don't wanna be a dumb nigga and not have a plan B, so I'll continue to inform myself in the computer the field that work towards my strengths.

Do not do computer science if you don't have a passion for it. You wont succeed in the tech industry if you don't have a passion for it.

 

[The Iconoclast]

Please go into computer science. There is sound advice in here touting it. Your opportunities will be vast, rewarding, fun, and lucrative.

Once you get past the math and programming prerequisites, you can begin to focus on where you'd like to concentrate.

You won't regret it!

Lol just now noticing this post and had to give it a late GOAT. She definitely got past all the math prerequisites, breezed by them actually.

FWIW what's hilarious about this...at the time of this post, I like many here, assumed Six was still on track to becoming a nurse.

It wasn't until a couple months after that post, that I found out offline she was actually speaking from a personal experience in this thread. Her career switch was admirable, although the fact she had a strong background in math and science made the transition relatively smooth.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

Do what makes you happy bruh. You're in a weird situation where you dont technically need a degree in either to be successful in life.

You can get certified and still make good money but you also don't need a business degree to be succesful on the business side. The way I look at it, its a beautiful problem to have. You have options.

I had the same problem. I originally was majoring in exercise science and as I moved up (thank God not too far) i felt like I wouldn't be happy. So I switched my major. Now i feel its something that I would want to do but also make me happy.

You're 22, Im 23. Were young we're not going to have all the answers and its ok not to. The problems arise when we feel like we should. You have options which means you're in a good space. sometimes you have to take risks and just go for it.

 

[(Nope)]

Tbh I knew business is "art major" status, I just didn't want to accept it lol

This is another thing too, a lot of cats are going into it thinking it can go into everything else. I'm tellin folks you don't need to go to business school to become an entrepreneur or do things in business. Unless cats are going into the hardcore meat and potatoes like finance and accounting. Business majors are oversaturated almost like how law degrees are (unless it's corporate finance). There's too many graduates and too few firms to hire everybody. The jobs are there but don't be surprised if you doing something else for a while until you get a job in the game.

Computer science is the future but you have to also remember that a lot of people going into it are going to oversaturate it in the longer term. I always felt the issue was that people went into general areas versus specific types in regards to their majors. It helps a lot more tho if you find what exactly it is you want to do with your life especially on a day to day basis. You gotta realize, there's no way around the math aspect of it in computer science. You'll have to do it at some point. If that bothers you then take time off to sit and ask yourself what you want out of life and where you want to go. If you really love it tho, you'll find tutors and teach yourself the math so you can go hard at it.

I say go into a concentrated area of computer science that you're interested in and minor in business so that you can learn the ins and outs of your industry on a business level. Don't get entranced by the "it's a great job lots of money !!" shit b/c you will get regulated reeeaaal quick. We live in what I call "Generation E" this is the era of the entrepreneur, nobody works the same job anymore for 30+ years, benefits/401ks and things like that is the norm, most people you know now have side businesses or have something on the side that they do. This is the era of the entrepreneur, remember that fam. What's going to be very important is the skillset you develop and how you use it.

Law Degree's have actually been on the decline--as everyone believes the market is oversaturated--and are once again valuable.

On the inverse, you can find a myriad of articles that would urge against obtaining a business degree.

 

[(Nope)]

Aite after being patient for a minute, things are about to start motioning again for me. Thank God lol its been tough but it made me a more humble person. Ill be attending University of West Georgia in the fall. Only thing is im a current CS major and they CS program excludes any transfer credits and offer virtually no flexibility based on the program being a 2 year "spring summer fall" yearly thing. I'll be working my ass off with no time off, although im young and have time to do this, im not sure my level of commitment to a degree and program is worth the end result of money. My love for CS is a 6 out of 10 a this point, and im not sure if all of that will be worth it just for the dollar game.

If the CS program wasn't as cut throat as it is, then i would have strongly considered, but at this point IDK man.

At this point i have courses taken in computer engineering, informatics, basic shit, but is there any other degrees or programs you guys would consider? Im not to great at math, and I been looking at business admin, , civil engineering, sports agency, etc.

I know its a fucked up situation to be choosing so late, but im just playing my cards that dealt at this point lol

There is nothing fucked up about what you're doing, just don't give up!

 

[silverfoxx]

Do what makes you happy bruh. You're in a weird situation where you dont technically need a degree in either to be successful in life.

You can get certified and still make good money but you also don't need a business degree to be succesful on the business side. The way I look at it, its a beautiful problem to have. You have options.

I had the same problem. I originally was majoring in exercise science and as I moved up (thank God not too far) i felt like I wouldn't be happy. So I switched my major. Now i feel its something that I would want to do but also make me happy.

You're 22, Im 23. Were young we're not going to have all the answers and its ok not to. The problems arise when we feel like we should. You have options which means you're in a good space. sometimes you have to take risks and just go for it.

Thanks FAM. I'm 23 btw lmao

 

[King Erauno]

you cant go wrong with both, really. i got a CS degree and it was a lot of work.. but i always loved computers. def paid off.

i know cats with history degrees who work in IT. you can get a bs degree and get certified.

certifications >>> degrees in IT. no degree, a company may make an exception for you if you got a ton of experience

How do you guys obtain them certs when the overall price of admission are crazy? Im aware of grants with fasfa and community colleges/universites, but strictly Certifications courses? Im not even aware of how to pay for that accept loans, which I AM NOT TRYING TO DO right now since im already 20k in loan debt at this point in my life smh lol

self study really. those courses are a grip and a waste of time. if you can study math or science you can do that too. the key is to get the hands on experience i.e. buy equipment, software etc or rent.

i finished my degree but if i could go back and do it all over again i wouldnt. id get certified way sooner and make way more money.

Good advice, but lets exclude the courses, the overall testing admissions for obtaining a average Cert is still pricey. Did u have to pay a large price to obtain yours? If so, did you take out a loan?

not really pricey. buy a couple of books and take notes. you can always download an e-book for free on the internet. the information is there. the real cost is taking the exam itself where i think the ccna now is $300+ and every time you take it, you gotta pay for it. No i didnt take out a loan to get certified

 

[nex gin]

you cant go wrong with both, really. i got a CS degree and it was a lot of work.. but i always loved computers. def paid off.

i know cats with history degrees who work in IT. you can get a bs degree and get certified.

certifications >>> degrees in IT. no degree, a company may make an exception for you if you got a ton of experience

How do you guys obtain them certs when the overall price of admission are crazy? Im aware of grants with fasfa and community colleges/universites, but strictly Certifications courses? Im not even aware of how to pay for that accept loans, which I AM NOT TRYING TO DO right now since im already 20k in loan debt at this point in my life smh lol

self study really. those courses are a grip and a waste of time. if you can study math or science you can do that too. the key is to get the hands on experience i.e. buy equipment, software etc or rent.

i finished my degree but if i could go back and do it all over again i wouldnt. id get certified way sooner and make way more money.

I majored in CS, minored in business....graduated and found an out of state job w/in 2 months. Bounced and never looked back. At one point I started looking for another job and every thing I came across were employers emphasizing certifications. I was a bit frustrated because job experience trumps a cert any day imo, but I understand what those certs mean to the company. Certs are an added good look to help you get in the door and command more money. I remember we hired this one network dude just because he was a MCSE certified (the old Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer before they changed the meaning). He went out on a client site, broke a raid array because he didn't know better and lost all of their data. Needless to say that cert didn't save his job....lol. And c/s on the self study and buying your own equipment. I learned more on my own after graduating than I ever learned in college.

 

[themadlionsfan]

you cant go wrong with both, really. i got a CS degree and it was a lot of work.. but i always loved computers. def paid off.

i know cats with history degrees who work in IT. you can get a bs degree and get certified.

certifications >>> degrees in IT. no degree, a company may make an exception for you if you got a ton of experience

How do you guys obtain them certs when the overall price of admission are crazy? Im aware of grants with fasfa and community colleges/universites, but strictly Certifications courses? Im not even aware of how to pay for that accept loans, which I AM NOT TRYING TO DO right now since im already 20k in loan debt at this point in my life smh lol

self study really. those courses are a grip and a waste of time. if you can study math or science you can do that too. the key is to get the hands on experience i.e. buy equipment, software etc or rent.

i finished my degree but if i could go back and do it all over again i wouldnt. id get certified way sooner and make way more money.

I majored in CS, minored in business....graduated and found an out of state job w/in 2 months. Bounced and never looked back. At one point I started looking for another job and every thing I came across were employers emphasizing certifications. I was a bit frustrated because job experience trumps a cert any day imo, but I understand what those certs mean to the company. Certs are an added good look to help you get in the door and command more money. I remember we hired this one network dude just because he was a MCSE certified (the old Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer before they changed the meaning). He went out on a client site, broke a raid array because he didn't know better and lost all of their data. Needless to say that cert didn't save his job....lol. And c/s on the self study and buying your own equipment. I learned more on my own after graduating than I ever learned in college.

How the fuck do you break a raid array?

 

[Bcotton5]

you cant go wrong with both, really. i got a CS degree and it was a lot of work.. but i always loved computers. def paid off.

i know cats with history degrees who work in IT. you can get a bs degree and get certified.

certifications >>> degrees in IT. no degree, a company may make an exception for you if you got a ton of experience

How do you guys obtain them certs when the overall price of admission are crazy? Im aware of grants with fasfa and community colleges/universites, but strictly Certifications courses? Im not even aware of how to pay for that accept loans, which I AM NOT TRYING TO DO right now since im already 20k in loan debt at this point in my life smh lol

self study really. those courses are a grip and a waste of time. if you can study math or science you can do that too. the key is to get the hands on experience i.e. buy equipment, software etc or rent.

i finished my degree but if i could go back and do it all over again i wouldnt. id get certified way sooner and make way more money.

I majored in CS, minored in business....graduated and found an out of state job w/in 2 months. Bounced and never looked back. At one point I started looking for another job and every thing I came across were employers emphasizing certifications. I was a bit frustrated because job experience trumps a cert any day imo, but I understand what those certs mean to the company. Certs are an added good look to help you get in the door and command more money. I remember we hired this one network dude just because he was a MCSE certified (the old Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer before they changed the meaning). He went out on a client site, broke a raid array because he didn't know better and lost all of their data. Needless to say that cert didn't save his job....lol. And c/s on the self study and buying your own equipment. I learned more on my own after graduating than I ever learned in college.

dope

 

[silverfoxx]

I was in your same exact shoes during my Sophomore year in undergrad. I was planning on majoring in Computer Science and the first program we learned was Java.. It was pretty cool.. But that high level calculus killed me.. I was on the bus one day talking to a classmate.. And she told me about the Management Information Systems degree my school offered. It was under the business track.. I switched my major to business.. With a concentration in M.I.S. and I added finance to it since I wouldn't finish school on time (4 years). The finance concentration added a year of coursework but I got everything done in 5 years..

One of the best decisions I ever made in life.. In corporate America at least in my experience.. A lot of the real technologically advance folks arent in 'business conversations'. I find myself in meetings with folks in the C-Suite often because I can speak thier language but I am also technically inclined.. Look into M.I.S. or any of the technical concentrations under business to see if you like it..

Side note: I need to find homegirl that gave me that advice. I owe her many thanks man.. I don't even remember her name smh..

I'm very thankful you posted this homie. I was unaware of it, and after looking over it from a top layer view, its something I may seriously take into consideration. I have orientation next Friday, so in order to schedule classes, I REALLY have to make a choice soon about my major. No time for waiting. I'll definitely look into this. My school offers it, I currently manage an upstart company now on by a multi millionaire. And my operations manager tells me that I have raw talent in the field, although I don't think I do lmao. Im not a people person, but I'm VERY good with customers, constructing solutions to issues, innovative thinking, attention to detail, and overall hard working. Working at a upstart company and learning how a potential chain can and should be run may be my true calling.

Not that I'm passionate about it, I may just be a natural at it, noneless, I wanna work towards my strengths. My moms told me she has dreams of me running businesses in my future. Weird because ima kept to myself type dude lol. But nah man I'll check it out! Thanks to all of y'all and if y'all got more advice, I'm taking notes!

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

I was in your same exact shoes during my Sophomore year in undergrad. I was planning on majoring in Computer Science and the first program we learned was Java.. It was pretty cool.. But that high level calculus killed me.. I was on the bus one day talking to a classmate.. And she told me about the Management Information Systems degree my school offered. It was under the business track.. I switched my major to business.. With a concentration in M.I.S. and I added finance to it since I wouldn't finish school on time (4 years). The finance concentration added a year of coursework but I got everything done in 5 years..

One of the best decisions I ever made in life.. In corporate America at least in my experience.. A lot of the real technologically advance folks arent in 'business conversations'. I find myself in meetings with folks in the C-Suite often because I can speak thier language but I am also technically inclined.. Look into M.I.S. or any of the technical concentrations under business to see if you like it..

Side note: I need to find homegirl that gave me that advice. I owe her many thanks man.. I don't even remember her name smh..

I'm very thankful you posted this homie. I was unaware of it, and after looking over it from a top layer view, its something I may seriously take into consideration. I have orientation next Friday, so in order to schedule classes, I REALLY have to make a choice soon about my major. No time for waiting. I'll definitely look into this. My school offers it, I currently manage an upstart company now on by a multi millionaire. And my operations manager tells me that I have raw talent in the field, although I don't think I do lmao. Im not a people person, but I'm VERY good with customers, constructing solutions to issues, innovative thinking, attention to detail, and overall hard working. Working at a upstart company and learning how a potential chain can and should be run may be my true calling.

Not that I'm passionate about it, I may just be a natural at it, noneless, I wanna work towards my strengths. My moms told me she has dreams of me running businesses in my future. Weird because ima kept to myself type dude lol. But nah man I'll check it out! Thanks to all of y'all and if y'all got more advice, I'm taking notes!

Go for it fam.. Each one teach one... Homegirl put me on so it's only right that I pay it forward.. The advice she gave me literally changed my life..

I don't necessarily think you have to be a people person per say.. You just have to be able to articulate yourself in a manner that is easily digested by all in the organization.. If you can talk to business people about technical stuff in a manner in which they can understand and if you can talk to technical people about business in a manner in which they can understand it goes a long long way...

If you are looking to get into the Information Systems field.. Look up the jobs that people typically get with those degrees.. The salaries that are associated.. And where the jobs are.. Also see if there are any growth projections in the field. Ive been doing it for over 10 years.. So I am moving into management.. You will be coming in on the ground level so you want to make sure there are opportunities there and that the pay is enough for the type of life you see yourself living.. PM if you want to talk further..

 

[valdez21]

I was in your same exact shoes during my Sophomore year in undergrad. I was planning on majoring in Computer Science and the first program we learned was Java.. It was pretty cool.. But that high level calculus killed me.. I was on the bus one day talking to a classmate.. And she told me about the Management Information Systems degree my school offered. It was under the business track.. I switched my major to business.. With a concentration in M.I.S. and I added finance to it since I wouldn't finish school on time (4 years). The finance concentration added a year of coursework but I got everything done in 5 years..

One of the best decisions I ever made in life.. In corporate America at least in my experience.. A lot of the real technologically advance folks arent in 'business conversations'. I find myself in meetings with folks in the C-Suite often because I can speak thier language but I am also technically inclined.. Look into M.I.S. or any of the technical concentrations under business to see if you like it..

Side note: I need to find homegirl that gave me that advice. I owe her many thanks man.. I don't even remember her name smh..

I'm very thankful you posted this homie. I was unaware of it, and after looking over it from a top layer view, its something I may seriously take into consideration. I have orientation next Friday, so in order to schedule classes, I REALLY have to make a choice soon about my major. No time for waiting. I'll definitely look into this. My school offers it, I currently manage an upstart company now on by a multi millionaire. And my operations manager tells me that I have raw talent in the field, although I don't think I do lmao. Im not a people person, but I'm VERY good with customers, constructing solutions to issues, innovative thinking, attention to detail, and overall hard working. Working at a upstart company and learning how a potential chain can and should be run may be my true calling.

Not that I'm passionate about it, I may just be a natural at it, noneless, I wanna work towards my strengths. My moms told me she has dreams of me running businesses in my future. Weird because ima kept to myself type dude lol. But nah man I'll check it out! Thanks to all of y'all and if y'all got more advice, I'm taking notes!

Go for it fam.. Each one teach one... Homegirl put me on so it's only right that I pay it forward.. The advice she gave me literally changed my life..

I don't necessarily think you have to be a people person per say.. You just have to be able to articulate yourself in a manner that is easily digested by all in the organization.. If you can talk to business people about technical stuff in a manner in which they can understand and if you can talk to technical people about business in a manner in which they can understand it goes a long long way...

If you are looking to get into the Information Systems field.. Look up the jobs that people typically get with those degrees.. The salaries that are associated.. And where the jobs are.. Also see if there are any growth projections in the field. Ive been doing it for over 10 years.. So I am moving into management.. You will be coming in on the ground level so you want to make sure there are opportunities there and that the pay is enough for the type of life you see yourself living.. PM if you want to talk further..

Good stuff...

As emm mentioned, companies love the people who are technical but can communicate. Also when looking at those jobs, look at the descriptions for technologies and get your hands on them. Every interview I've been on they ask what have I done, NOT what I know.... The networking field is going toward programming, check out SDN. A great skill to have in IT is SCRIPTING... So go comp Sci...