What was Hip Hop Like Back in the 80's and early 90's?

[Catalyst2012]

Okay good im reading a lot of these posts

another question since we know music reflects and talks about our society how was it back in the day?

During the Ronald Reagan/crack era?

How did White America feel about Hip Hop?

 

[young law]

the most ironic part about hip hop in the 80's is....

the 80's was possibly the biggest drug era in America....

yet you have today's emcee's spitting like today's day and age is the biggest drug era currently.

back in the 80's when the shit was really real, you didn't hear it being promoted through the music like it is today, even at a time when it was major in our communities.

rofl/smh

i say this shit all the time

i even rapped about it myself

"most niggas rapping crime aint in the streets,how the fuck you moving weight when the feds doin sweeps"

 

[white715]

The sample laws (De La Sol) fucked up rap, once the old artist/labels saw rap was making money they started suing rappers. As a result producers had to start making music from scratch and artist didn't want to pay money for sample clearance.

Naw trhere was a lot of great sample based music that came out after 3 ft high you just had to start paying for the sample, look at Pete Rock, Q-Tip, Rza, Dre, Preemo they all were sampling in the 90s and making great music.

 

[king hassan]

The sample laws (De La Sol) fucked up rap, once the old artist/labels saw rap was making money they started suing rappers. As a result producers had to start making music from scratch and artist didn't want to pay money for sample clearance.

Actually it was Biz Markie that got sued by the Steve Miller Band, that's why "Can I Get a Haircut" was never released. But a lot of old artist did'nt mind sampling because that kept money in their pocket. Fred Wesley from the JB"s says he hated sampling at first but when he got that check for 15 grand he was cool with it. You notice one person that's really not been sampled is Prince.

 

[king hassan]

Okay good im reading a lot of these posts
another question since we know music reflects and talks about our society how was it back in the day?
During the Ronald Reagan/crack era?
How did White America feel about Hip Hop?

They hated that shit, and with a passion! See it was black folks talking about the ills of Amerikkka and of course white folks think we should'nt have a problem, and we were bringing it out the ghettos and into their face. Man did they hate that shit, unless they were young or old punk rockers who bucked the establishment anyway. Rick Rubin started Def Jam with Russ and he was a white coke head

 

[playmaker88]

Long story short

Diverse..

there was room for everyone..

 

[thewave19]

If u was old enough to really bump hip hop at the time, u old as shit on this site

 

[young law]

LOL yeah man, niggas was rocking that shit and gang banging. I used to have countless pics of cats throwing up the 5 and Stone Love with beads and medallions on.

rofl

i got family in chicago were wearing fezzes on the head but were on some real killer shit at the same time

that dichotomy will never sit right with me

 

[Paul Hate.]

How big was Redman back in the day?

Respected lyrically,heavily bootelgged but didnt sell too much.Wasnt REALLY mainstream till "So High" with Method Man,the Docs the Name and he was a household name.

 

[Kwan Dai]

rofl

i got family in chicago were wearing fezzes on the head but were on some real killer shit at the same time

that dichotomy will never sit right with me

Not if taken in the context of the Fez being the official head gear of the Turkish military in the 1800's.

 

[young law]

nah niggas had the same sounds.the same synths that were used in 80´s pop songs are used today.the songs were better because they were hip hop and not watered down.check to live and die in l.a.compare that shit to new york.nah mean.niggas were artists back in the day you couldnt fuck up in the studio or you were shitted on.they were real people real artist.

true shit

people took the craft serious

nowadays niggas in the studio taking time for granted

punching in like crazy
relying on pro tools to fix everything when all they have to do is deliver their vocals like a professional

shits disgusting

oh,
and niggas in a cypher having to start over 60 times

 

[Paul Hate.]

Nas had the buzz of a chainsaw after Live at the BBQ people forget that cats were really gobbling up whatever apperances he had.Comparing to Rakim and G rap becore he came out.Illmatic didnt sell but real heads were on it HARD every street cat up here had Illmatic at least on bootleg.

That gotta be the most bootlegged CD of all time,illmatic and 36 chambers..I honestly remember that being considered an instant classic up here..Dont know about the rest of the country.

Reasonable Doubt on the other hand was talked about and Jay was respected but wasnt give the crown on first listening like Nas,Big,Wu....

 

[young law]

Not if taken in the context of the Fez being the official head gear of the Turkish military in the 1800's.

lol

taken in the context of El Rukn hats

whole nother talk,

but i hate when gangs use religious/cultural reference points to attract members OR jus plainly use them as a front

its mad disrespectful

cant say shit to them cornerstones though

 

[young law]

Respected lyrically,heavily bootelgged but didnt sell too much.Wasnt REALLY mainstream till "So High" with Method Man,the Docs the Name and he was a household name.

heavily bootlegged???

folks was jus agreeing on how much more supportive fans were back then

but he was heavily bootlegged???

thats some bs

 

[king hassan]

rofl

i got family in chicago were wearing fezzes on the head but were on some real killer shit at the same time

that dichotomy will never sit right with me

Not if taken in the context of the Fez being the official head gear of the Turkish military in the 1800's.

The Stones and brothers wore them because Jeff Fort flipped over to the El Rukins and they took a lot of Islamic terms.

 

[king hassan]

heavily bootlegged???

folks was jus agreeing on how much more supportive fans were back then

but he was heavily bootlegged???

thats some bs

Man the bootleggers was ill back then. They used to sell bootlegged tapes right on the street and some cats would walk by and see they shit. I can't remember who but they came across they shit being sold on the street.
And by supportive I think he means cats were really checking for them

 

[Paul Hate.]

OTHER SHIT YOU YOUNGLINGS MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND:

If cats find out you couldnt rap for real,somebody was g-writing for you...it was basically a wrap.Thats now people admit on camera Easy and Dre didnt write their own shit.That would have been a death sentence back then.Shit not being a good freestyler was a issue..

Even for Female MCs you werent respected(most respected anyways even back then) allowed to not be compotent at least on the mic.

You had to be dope to get noticed.Only pop type/party and fun type artist like Fresh Prince,Kid and Play,Heavy D,etc..got a pass for that.Making BLATANT pop records was frowed upon..Check EPMPD's No Crossover joint for that,which actually became a fucking pop record ironically.

Another example Rob Bass made It takes two then dropped some b.s. pop song to try to top that song and got thrown under the bus.Another good example:Kane.Back then it was between Kane and Rakim and most feared MC.But Kane started dropping the R&Bish type shit(no,not like LL some straight slow music shit) and fell the FUCK off...

You had cats that made respectable pop though not like today.Go youtube Large Proffersor Looking out the front door.

 

[Kwan Dai]

lol

taken in the context of El Rukn hats

whole nother talk,

but i hate when gangs use religious/cultural reference points to attract members OR jus plainly use them as a front

its mad disrespectful

cant say shit to them cornerstones though

I don't think Fezzes, X Medallions, or African Medallions fall into that category though.

 

[young law]

maybe not medallions but islmaic culture does fit in that category

and the stones used that as a front for some years

its kids in chicago that use the term "moe" and dont even know wtf they sayin

its sad

 

[young_reezy]

80's-90's was a good era for the most part... i really did love the g-funk era from 93-95, as well as 90's bay area rap too. the west had a lot going on back then musically.