What reign of terror was worst Triple H's(2002-2005) or Jeff Jarrett's(2003-2006)?

[BeleeDatPleighboy]

guy had a lotta good points tho

although im not sure how he buried shane and the 4 moves of doom is a bit of a stretch

im guessing the shane burial was pointing to more backstage shit...but that part is purely speculation for real....I honestly think Shane bounced cause he wanted to do forge his own path. Which I think is GOAT and Im pretty sure VKM respects that and is probably proud of Shane cause he did it and is successful.

as far as the 4 moves of doom...i mean its true...he may have thrown a suplex in there every now then...we know he CAN do more than those...but i think HHH strongest point is his psychology

 

[Already Home_17]

http://whatculture.com/wwe/wwe-7-reasons-why-triple-h-is-everything-that-is-wrong-with-professional-wrestling-today.php

damn u dont see articles like this on too many niggas

he made some good points but half of this list is bullshit

1. "he hasn't had a decent match in over a decade". this article was posted in 2013, so from 2003 to then

-triple threat match at WM20 with hbk & Benoit and the rematch a month later

- vs benoit at vengeance 2004

-vs orton at unforgien 2004

- elimination match at ss2004

- elimination chamber match 2005

- vs batista HIAC vengeance 2005 (extremely underrated)

- last man standing match with flair at ss2005

- vs Cena at wrestlemania 22

- vs cena and edge backlash 06

- his feud with jeff hardy in 2007-2008

- HIAC vs taker at WM28

not to mention the match with DB at WM30 and the matches with the shield last year

2. "To this day I can’t fathom why Vladimir Kozlov was fired out of nowhere. He had the skill, the talent, he had finally won over the crowd, was extremely charismatic for someone who didn’t speak English all that well and had proven himself someone whom was main event caliber"

lol....yall hate for hhh is so strong you caping for kozlov?

3. "he only has 4 moves"

every wrestler has their signature moves

4. "he can't wrestle"

nigga I'm done

 

[RawAce]

Triple H was so bad I jus stopped watching raw. Shit sounds crazy to say now but damn . Every week was hhh coming out with a "I am the gammmmne" speech to start the show then midcard filler , then hhh and some cronies getting over on somebody

JJs run was bad also. U can tell he jus had the belt do to business reasons but at least the rest of the card was decent and the guys that worked wit Jarret didn't get complete buried. . . Except Monty brown . Dude went from contender to lacky for no reason at all

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

hhh can wrestle and i never saw ANYTHING in koslov, but i think hhh being called overrated, criticized for his run in this time period and not puttin the right guys over, and saying that his opponents/stablemates mostly made hhh are fair points. really imo he is what he called daniel bryan, edge, rvd, jericho etc..

a b+ player at best

 

[RawAce]

Same wit Jeff. He was a B level guy who put the belt on himself to make up for all the time he was treated like a B level player .

 

[RawAce]

And his WCW run wasn't nearly that bad

 

[blu197]

Triple H was the best Heel in the company's prime, i dont see how that's a "B+" player but whatever

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

hhh killed ratings and buyrates

when hhh was top heel with no scsa and rock, smackdown was more popular

"hhh is the reason that match was amazing" said no one ever

jericho was a top heel and had the matches to back it up and what'd they call him

b+

 

[blu197]

hhh killed ratings and buyrates

when hhh was top heel with no scsa and rock, smackdown was more popular

"hhh is the reason that match was amazing" said no one ever

Smackdown was never more popular, y'all niggas are delusional... So we suppose to act like HHH didn't carry old ass Taker in those Mania matches, a lot of joints with Flair,Batista and even Rock?? FOH....

 

[south4life]

I say Jarrett because this fuck nigga was the boss and padded his title wins so he can make himself seem like he was up there with Flair, that shit use to piss me off!

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

hhh killed ratings and buyrates

when hhh was top heel with no scsa and rock, smackdown was more popular

"hhh is the reason that match was amazing" said no one ever

Smackdown was never more popular, y'all niggas are delusional... So we suppose to act like HHH didn't carry old ass Taker in those Mania matches, a lot of joints with Flair,Batista and even Rock?? FOH....

taker, batista, and rock definitely did they parts, aint gon say hhh aint have decent matches but amazing nah, and he was better b4 he tore his quad, smackdown ppvs used to outdraw raw ppvs at times, and smackdown tv show was competing with raw even with smackdown being on a channel like upn while hhh was helpin raw fall off a cliff, these are facts mane i got no reason to make this up believe it or not. brock lesnar and the smackdown 6>>>hhh reign of terror

 

[blu197]

Dont kno what matches you saw, and you sayin Smackdown had bigger draws but where the numbers at? Exactly. And RAW was also in terrible state when Bret and Shawn were the top guys, i guess that means their reign wasn't good too huh...

 

[blu197]

And dude really said HHH has no amazing matches smh

 

[Already Home_17]

Dont kno what matches you saw, and you sayin Smackdown had bigger draws but where the numbers at? Exactly. And RAW was also in terrible state when Bret and Shawn were the top guys, i guess that means their reign wasn't good too huh...

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2002-ratings/

funny how smackdowns ratings edged closer to Raw's as soon as hhh was awarded the title in September 2002

they rarely beat raw in the ratings but there was no doubt they were putting out the better product

 

[blu197]

Smackdowns roster was stacked during that time period, alot of ppl were gonna watch the show no matter who was the top guy on RAW, and SD wasn't puttin on a better product imo....

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Dont kno what matches you saw, and you sayin Smackdown had bigger draws but where the numbers at? Exactly. And RAW was also in terrible state when Bret and Shawn were the top guys, i guess that means their reign wasn't good too huh...

the business was down hill and diesel had been champ a year, bret and shawn helped save them

u can look at the buyrates for some smackdown ppvs vs raw ppvs, its not hard to see how brock or kurt main events would out do tired ass hhh main events

and please show me an amazing hhh match not involving hbk or 5 other guys during the reign of terror

 

[jono]

hhh killed ratings and buyrates

when hhh was top heel with no scsa and rock, smackdown was more popular

"hhh is the reason that match was amazing" said no one ever

Smackdown was never more popular, y'all niggas are delusional... So we suppose to act like HHH didn't carry old ass Taker in those Mania matches, a lot of joints with Flair,Batista and even Rock?? FOH....

HHH and Undertaker are in the same age bracket. I doubt he carried him.

He did carry Batista in 2005 because Batista was a raw as Roman is now and Flair was 88 years old when they had that 2006 feud.

HHH is a great talent, he is a good storyteller for sure, his psychology is dope too. That said, he isn't "carry the company" material and never has been.

Would I call him a B+ player? Ehhh I guess so.

 

[blu197]

13x champ being a B+ player? ok

 

[jono]

Politics have a lot to do with HHH having the title that many times.

I don't think HHH should have main evented a show after 2003-2004 personally.

I think he should have moved into the position he is in now way back in 2005 after losing to Batista.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

13x champ being a B+ player? ok

wwe DID U KNOW?

HHH was only a 2 time champion b4 being aligned with stephanie.

and as previously stated shouldnt have been champ again after the mid 2000's

B+ at best, your favorite wrestler is overrated at wrestling and one of the goats at politics behind the scenes of wrestling. get over it