theillestrator
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it's in english
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Chike;691162 said:Believe what you want to believe, man. Nothing we do or show you would change your mind anyway.
And nothing we do changes your mind.
He's just asking a question.
It's not about asking how it was it edited into english but proof it was edited, words taken out and words put in to change the meaning of verses or chapters. I've always heard it's been changed like that and always wondered how they knew that.
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theillestrator
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VIBE86;691370 said:And nothing we do changes your mind.
He's just asking a question.
It's not about asking how it was it edited into english but proof it was edited, words taken out and words put in to change the meaning of verses or chapters. I've always heard it's been changed like that and always wondered how they knew that.
Translate any foreign film/book/article and keep the message 100% the same. Probably won't happen right? Why would a long ass book like the bible be any different. Can followers of the bible afford those mistakes? I certainly think not.
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theillestrator;691439 said:Translate any foreign film/book/article and keep the message 100% the same. Probably won't happen right? Why would a long ass book like the bible be any different. Can followers of the bible afford those mistakes? I certainly think not.
Then it wasn't CHANGED to make it a bible of lies but mistranslated, simple as that. You guys make it sound like it was changed for the bad, to purposely alter the bible.
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the1nonlyruru
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VIBE86;691464 said:Then it wasn't CHANGED to make it a bible of lies but mistranslated, simple as that. You guys make it sound like it was changed for the bad, to purposely alter the bible.
you never know. there are arguements that jesus said certain things when he was crucified and there are arguements that he said nothing at all. if it came out that the bible was edited i would not find it hard to believe. look at the fact that the original bible is in a language that no longer exists. even if somehow you found it there is no way you can see what it says. and think about that if people could go back in time and edit the bible the bible today would be so fucked up no one would wanna follow it
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theillestrator
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VIBE86;691464 said:Then it wasn't CHANGED to make it a bible of lies but mistranslated, simple as that. You guys make it sound like it was changed for the bad, to purposely alter the bible.
who is "you guys?" I'm speaking for myself, I haven't made it sound anyway. I don't and won't believe in the bible no matter what language it's in.
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theillestrator;691516 said:who is "you guys?" I'm speaking for myself, I haven't made it sound anyway. I don't and won't believe in the bible no matter what language it's in.
Then don't worry if you know you're not included. If you speak for yourself that's good. When I state things like that, I'm not meaning literally YOU and who I'm talking to. I'm just speaking in general.
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Exit the buildingether-i-am;691775 said:Somethings was left out. Like Jesus never died he actually hid for three days, came out and showed himself then went back in hiding.
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ThaChozenWun
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solid analysis;692056 said:Oh, and there is no proof. All speculation.
He asked was it edited not about if its real
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ThaChozenWun;692121 said:He asked was it edited not about if its real
I know, there's no proof of this.
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ThaChozenWun
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solid analysis;693028 said:I know, there's no proof of this.
Dummy, I was pointing out theres no proof its contents are real either.
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ThaChozenWun;693036 said:Dummy, I was pointing out theres no proof its contents are real either.
Exit the building
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BiblicalAtheist
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If any of us common scum could get into the vatican's library......
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I think the fact that there are so many different versions with different books added to and taken from, proves such.
These people actually sat down and decided what they wanted to leave in and take out. Who gave them that authority? The King? Emperor?
Just a rudimentary knowledge of the Hebrew text and you can see the difference in meanings of the text. Certain things are purposely mistranslated to deceive people.
For instance all throughout the Bible, the word virgin is used. Well in the Hebrew text, "Bethulah" corresponds with that word. However, in some cases "Almah" was used. This word does not mean virgin, it means young woman. The Greeks with their limited language simply put a word there "parthenos" that means virgin, but the hebrew text just denotes her as a young woman. This gave credence to the virgin birth nonsense that is still believed today.
Some fools will argue the correctness of the Greek Septugaint and don't even know the Hebrew origin to make comparison. This is silly.
Semitic Languages are vastly different in expression than English or Greek. You can use the same word in a different arrangement and change the whole complexity and meaning of the word. Take the Arabic word Rabb, which has a common etymological origin with the Hebrew word Rabbee. In some instances it means Lord, In some instances it may Sustainer, Nourisher, Cherisher and even Master. Depending upon how you use it in the sentence and with what combination of words. English is not like that.
If you really believe in the Bible, any serious student would make every effort to study the Original tongue out of which it was translated, and no Biblical Hebrew is not significant different than what is spoken today. Don't fall for that one. Reggie White undertook a serious study of Hebrew and he admitted that he had been teaching things that were not true and that he was in some instances lied to intentionally by people who knew the truth. He exposed some of them and was made persona non grata in many church circles because he would not lie to the people.
There is more, but will save for later.
These people actually sat down and decided what they wanted to leave in and take out. Who gave them that authority? The King? Emperor?
Just a rudimentary knowledge of the Hebrew text and you can see the difference in meanings of the text. Certain things are purposely mistranslated to deceive people.
For instance all throughout the Bible, the word virgin is used. Well in the Hebrew text, "Bethulah" corresponds with that word. However, in some cases "Almah" was used. This word does not mean virgin, it means young woman. The Greeks with their limited language simply put a word there "parthenos" that means virgin, but the hebrew text just denotes her as a young woman. This gave credence to the virgin birth nonsense that is still believed today.
Some fools will argue the correctness of the Greek Septugaint and don't even know the Hebrew origin to make comparison. This is silly.
Semitic Languages are vastly different in expression than English or Greek. You can use the same word in a different arrangement and change the whole complexity and meaning of the word. Take the Arabic word Rabb, which has a common etymological origin with the Hebrew word Rabbee. In some instances it means Lord, In some instances it may Sustainer, Nourisher, Cherisher and even Master. Depending upon how you use it in the sentence and with what combination of words. English is not like that.
If you really believe in the Bible, any serious student would make every effort to study the Original tongue out of which it was translated, and no Biblical Hebrew is not significant different than what is spoken today. Don't fall for that one. Reggie White undertook a serious study of Hebrew and he admitted that he had been teaching things that were not true and that he was in some instances lied to intentionally by people who knew the truth. He exposed some of them and was made persona non grata in many church circles because he would not lie to the people.
There is more, but will save for later.
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hrap-120;693842 said:damn what happened to J.C.'s childhood and teen years? Wonder were the fuck he was at...mystery no pun intended.
He was rolling with the Essenes, being schooled in Egyptian Mystery system. Or the Way or Light as some call it.
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TX_Made713
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SL8Rok;691150 said:I've seen this old chest nut rearing its ugly head yet again (along with the Jesus is horus bit) and I would like to see if anybody this time is able to prove or atleast provide a good argument that the bible was edited.
this is like asking for proof that Muhammad had that life changing vision or that Malachi Z is really from planet x
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TX_Made713
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ether-i-am;693933 said:Dammit hrap! Jesus didn't have a childhood. Manger to Savior! That's it. Just believe for crying out loud.
he woke up one day and was an adult like "wtf?"
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