BiblicalAtheist
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Oceanic ;6006419 said:
That explains what was before anything was? We could never know cuz as soon as we got to that point we'd ruin it with our presence.
That explains what was before anything was? We could never know cuz as soon as we got to that point we'd ruin it with our presence.
BiblicalAtheist
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Oceanic ;6009703 said:
I personally don't, but I meant physical "things".
BiblicalAtheist
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Oceanic ;6012583 said:
Consciousness.
BiblicalAtheist
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Oceanic ;6013674 said:
0o0o0o, what a way to think, I need to go think about this, thank you Oceanic.
melanated khemist
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What is the truth about God?
not into labels or "god" for that matter, but imho i would say pure unlimited, quanta particles of light..Light is Life. life is a force, an unlimited self-renewing inner G..
not into labels or "god" for that matter, but imho i would say pure unlimited, quanta particles of light..Light is Life. life is a force, an unlimited self-renewing inner G..
melanated khemist
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@bambu Peace. "preciate the science and knowledge you drop.
i dont follow or study Atenism but respect the philosophy and feel the Aten Sun Disk is a powerful Emblem.
The symbol is not a reality, imo but a tool for our mind.
No, I Am not purely scientific i feel science and Khemetic Spirituality/Philosophy go hand in hand. I Dont think i will consciously ever put myself in a box, Spiritual, Religious, Atheist, Scientific, I Am all those and none of those.
i dont follow or study Atenism but respect the philosophy and feel the Aten Sun Disk is a powerful Emblem.
The symbol is not a reality, imo but a tool for our mind.
No, I Am not purely scientific i feel science and Khemetic Spirituality/Philosophy go hand in hand. I Dont think i will consciously ever put myself in a box, Spiritual, Religious, Atheist, Scientific, I Am all those and none of those.
melanated khemist;6027288 said:
I asked because your post sounds very similar to Atenism............
It is a subject that I am continuously researching...........
I have learned that the Aten was not merely the symbol for the Suns power, but the embodiment of the suns rays(light)..........
Not really the sun disk.......
But, the suns rays, illustrated by the extended "hands of life" emitting from the disk.......
I think that an Atenist would say the same thing about light.......
"Light is Life. life is a force, an unlimited self-renewing inner G.."
"The Aten as the light of the Sun keeps the world alive. He creates the world again and again and this continually."
Great Hymn
to the Aten
by Akhenaten
ca. 1353 - 1336 BCE
III) THEOLOGY OF THE ATEN
life-giving nature of the Aten
68 Your rays nurse all fields.
69 When You shine they live, they grow for You.
70 You made the seasons,
so that all that You made may come to life.
71 Winter cools them, and heat makes them sense You.
I also have been studying the connections to Judaism............
"As the radicalisation of Year 9 (including spelling Aten phonetically instead of using the rayed solar disc) may be due to a determination on the part of Akhenaten to dispel a probable misconception among the common people that Aten was really a type of sun god like Ra. Instead, the idea was reinforced that such representations were representations above all of concepts—of Aten's universal presence—not of physical beings or things."
So we see that the Aten was also a Tetragrammaton.............
It's a lot of info, I may make a thread later.......
And thank you for dropping eye opening information here...........
It is always appreciated..........
PEACE........
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melanated khemist
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^^^ great drop
I agree its a lot of info, deep esoteric and mystical. I've seen some Rays with hands at the end holding the Ankh, some holding the Uas Scepter symbol. What intrigued me was seeing the Ankh pushed up to the nostril or mouth of the initiate or Akhenaten. I wanted to know the hidden meaning..... Any info you have to pass along would be greatly appreciated.
"Creation is a continuous process and the beings who are created are in the continuous process of becoming the truth. The seasons are part of the magnificent ecosystem that the all power has made. And yet, in all its beauty, in all its grandeur, it does not represent reality."
"The creation is an outward manifestation of a deeper reality. The Aton manifests itself into all forms, but in its true state is transcendent of form. That which is perceived is only a fraction, a small reflection of total reality. A portion of the Aton demarcated itself away from its true state and reduced in intensity until it coagulated as nature. If it were to reverse its projection, nature would recede back into the substantial reality, undifferentiated consciousness."
I agree its a lot of info, deep esoteric and mystical. I've seen some Rays with hands at the end holding the Ankh, some holding the Uas Scepter symbol. What intrigued me was seeing the Ankh pushed up to the nostril or mouth of the initiate or Akhenaten. I wanted to know the hidden meaning..... Any info you have to pass along would be greatly appreciated.
"Creation is a continuous process and the beings who are created are in the continuous process of becoming the truth. The seasons are part of the magnificent ecosystem that the all power has made. And yet, in all its beauty, in all its grandeur, it does not represent reality."
"The creation is an outward manifestation of a deeper reality. The Aton manifests itself into all forms, but in its true state is transcendent of form. That which is perceived is only a fraction, a small reflection of total reality. A portion of the Aton demarcated itself away from its true state and reduced in intensity until it coagulated as nature. If it were to reverse its projection, nature would recede back into the substantial reality, undifferentiated consciousness."
MYKROKOZMIK
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Truth is the ultimate state of being, when man and God share the same space time and are one. then there will be truth. Anything else is intelligent speculation as we all have our own individual ideas and or relationship to Truth. We will never know truth in this world, well very few have ascended and yes these may just be tales, in mortal death your answers will be revealed and explained. Very few had the temperance to hold these secrets. IMO
The truth about God is that it is currently just a word. Not everyone uses it some use other words to describe the most high. I feel that if the most high actually is all-knowing and has all power to do whatever he wants then he would reveal himself to every man in a way that the man could not deny him then he would let you know that now you are fit for judgement because I have revealed myself to you.
On the other hand, I feel like books such as the bible do such a horrible job of teaching about God as opposed to introducing concepts such as judgement, rulers (which were lords), death, sins, and so forth that it sets your mind back by even reading it. So, the most high may or may not be someone that judges people, has days where he can't control his anger and other unwanted personality traits but a book has put all this in your head.
I think you have to step back from Christianity which is a religion that praises Jesus for dying for there sins and making eternal life possible if you are truly looking for understanding about God so that you can get to know and praise him.
On the other hand, I feel like books such as the bible do such a horrible job of teaching about God as opposed to introducing concepts such as judgement, rulers (which were lords), death, sins, and so forth that it sets your mind back by even reading it. So, the most high may or may not be someone that judges people, has days where he can't control his anger and other unwanted personality traits but a book has put all this in your head.
I think you have to step back from Christianity which is a religion that praises Jesus for dying for there sins and making eternal life possible if you are truly looking for understanding about God so that you can get to know and praise him.
If you unsure if Christianity is the truth, then you could always just believe in a Higher Power Or Creator, without the nonsense that religion can bring at times. Just be God Conscious and thankful etc for what you have. I don't think you necessarily need to align yourself with a religion to be on the 'right' path.
