what is the greatest lyrical display ever displayed in hiphop?

[Focal Point]

That's why Eminem is the greatest Lyricist & Writer ever he will speak about personal things people relate to from topics such as poverty, love, parenting, family etc but say it using Multi's, Word Play, Story Telling that is perfect & catchy Hook's and the emotion in his Song's is un matched only people like 2pac & DMX have similar emotion, Eminem does concept's that have never ever been done in the past as well

Em lays it down on that emotional tip

 

[Dretox2010]

See 2pac will make records that are personal topics like poverty, loving his mom, political issues etc with a lotta emotion

But when Eminem makes his deep, personal, heart felt records about his life on topics such as loving his daughter, poverty, relationship, family, love etc Eminem will use Multi's, picture painting Story Telling, amazing Word Play and Melodic Singing with catchy Hook's but with just as much emotion if not more then 2pac

It's that balance that Eminem has always had over others like Nas

 

[illogics]

It still applies... and in this def I'd go with Lupe's He Say She Say

It would apply if people can say with a straight face that Pac was a better lyricist than say...Lupe. But that's not the case. We can't apply the text book definition when dealing with Hip-Hop.

 

[Fly society513]

All of me joe budden

 

[Dretox2010]

It would apply if people can say with a straight face that Pac was a better lyricist than say...Lupe. But that's not the case. We can't apply the text book definition when dealing with Hip-Hop.

2pac is a million times better then Lupe though

 

[illogics]

2pac is a million times better then Lupe though

Not at lyricism.

 

[Focal Point]

It would apply if people can say with a straight face that Pac was a better lyricist than say...Lupe. But that's not the case. We can't apply the text book definition when dealing with Hip-Hop.

lyr·i·cist (lr-sst) KEY

NOUN:

A writer of song lyrics. Also called lyrist.

who would be the better song writer

 

[Focal Point]

All of me joe budden

Damn how I forget Joey... damn 3 Sides to a Story, Broken Wings Freestyle, I Want You Back, Def Jam Diss, a whole lot of emotional display and complex bar usage

 

[illogics]

lyr·i·cist (lr-sst) KEY

NOUN:

A writer of song lyrics. Also called lyrist.

who would be better song writer

Text book, text book, text book. You mean to honestly tell me if you walked into a room full of Hip-Hop heads they'd say that Pac is more impressive than Lupe at putting words together? Honestly?

 

[Focal Point]

Text book, text book, text book. You mean to honestly tell me if you walked into a room full of Hip-Hop heads they'd say that Pac is more impressive than Lupe at putting words together? Honestly?

if you're talking old school hip hop heads they might say Pac because they more than likely will feel him more then Lupe, i.e. the lyrical part

 

[illogics]

if you're talking old school hip hop heads they might say Pac because they more than likely will feel him more then Lupe, i.e. the lyrical part

Nah I'm talking about people who can be subjective. I FEEL dmx more than I feel Lupe. But if I'm being real with myself, when it comes to spitting Lupe > Dmx.

 

[Dretox2010]

Not at lyricism.

I don't want Lyricism only

I want an Artist that makes Song's about topics i relate to that are deep and heart felt but Lyrical too

Jay Z to me just put's words together and say's nothing apart from materalism and drug dealing with no emotion, story telling or substance

But Lupe is overrated

 

[Focal Point]

Nah I'm talking about people who can be subjective. I FEEL dmx more than I feel Lupe. But if I'm being real with myself, when it comes to spitting Lupe > Dmx.

I agree... I just don't use the word Lyrical in reference to spitters

 

[illogics]

I agree... I just don't use the word Lyrical in reference to spitters

So in Hip-Hop, how do you define someone's technical skill of putting words together? What word do you use?

 

[just.might.b.ok]

his name was Big L, and he was better than your favorite rapper

 

[Focal Point]

So in Hip-Hop, how do you define someone's technical skill of putting words together? What word do you use?

Lyric technique or better even Word play sounds bout right, that covers vocab, homophones, metas, similies, and double entendres

 

[bdbdbd]

Nigga WHERE ARE YOU? It's 5 o clock. Drunk? Well Damn.

london homeslice, its past 11 here

edit: ure name is SICK....i was gna have illogic as my stage name but i saw sumone else(in the states i think) had that name so i had to change it.....baddest name ever tho

 

[bdbdbd]

Nah I'm talking about people who can be subjective. I FEEL dmx more than I feel Lupe. But if I'm being real with myself, when it comes to spitting Lupe > Dmx.

nice post....just realised i cosigned u a couple times in the past 2mins, so as much as i hate these two words i feel i need to throw a "no homo" in there

 

[gifted]

Too many to name. just too many dope lyricists out there.

Nas- don't know where to start, which to pick- Nas is Like, Every ghetto verse, Undying love, Blaze a 50, the whole illmatic
Pun- Deep Cover joint, Dream Shatterer
Canibus- prolly owns this- Poet Laurate, Bis vs Rip, C of tranquility, 1000 bars, Master thesis, and a host of others from 2000 BC, MicClub
Royce- my favourite current spitter- Return of Malcolm, BOOM
Slaughterhouse DOA freestyle is just crazy.
Ras Kass- Nature of the Threat
Deck- Triumph
G-rap- only man to outshine Canibus on a track;
Killah Priest- the entire Heavy Mental album
Ghost- that track where he shat on Cormega, his meanest rhyme
Jay- got some gems- streets r watching, dead pres 2,
Em- Stan, Lose Yourself

 

[bdbdbd]

Too many to name. just too many dope lyricists out there.

Nas- don't know where to start, which to pick- Nas is Like, Every ghetto verse, Undying love, Blaze a 50, the whole illmatic
Pun- Deep Cover joint, Dream Shatterer
Canibus- prolly owns this- Poet Laurate, Bis vs Rip, C of tranquility, 1000 bars, Master thesis, and a host of others from 2000 BC, MicClub
Royce- my favourite current spitter- Return of Malcolm, BOOM
Slaughterhouse DOA freestyle is just crazy.
Ras Kass- Nature of the Threat
Deck- Triumph
G-rap- only man to outshine Canibus on a track;
Killah Priest- the entire Heavy Mental album
Ghost- that track where he shat on Cormega, his meanest rhyme
Jay- got some gems- streets r watching, dead pres 2,
Em- Stan, Lose Yourself

poet laurate - i knew i left that out
royce - sickest MC pre-slaughterhouse....post slaughterhouse he still shits on most MCS
obviosly deck gets a mention in here