What ever happened to the nice producers?

[Stew]

Everything in rap is over-saturated. Producers all the way down to the fans.

 

[w0rd up s0n]

Everything is so low quality in every aspect it's not even funny

 

[usmarin3]

It's a result of samples being too expensive to clear and technology being easilly accessible (Fruity Loops, Reason, etc). Bad part is the technology is poorly sounded shit, most of these longs sound poorly mixed and the beats are some wack ass synthesized shit.

 

[w0rd up s0n]

Yeah I forgot to mention the samples..that must be one of the big reasons because man it's bad what I been gearing lately

 

[usmarin3]

Lil Jon was probably the main culprit in the downgrade in hiphop production, all those repetitive ass synthesize beats with nothing but 808 drums and mindless hooks. That's been the formula from the south since.

 

[H-Rap 180]

It's a result of samples being too expensive to clear and technology being easilly accessible (Fruity Loops, Reason, etc). Bad part is the technology is poorly sounded shit, most of these longs sound poorly mixed and the beats are some wack ass synthesized shit.

I co-sign this.

Anybody with a computer can free download some production software and make beats nowadays.

I remember when Biz Markie got raped over them samples and that was the beginning of the end.

 

[rip.dilla]

There's tonnes of "nice" producers out there

Nothing "happened" to 'em

 

[dalyricalbandit]

these new nigga never played a instrument in they life shit be all computer beats

 

[Cigarello Slim]

Check this guy out

hannibalkingmusic.com/

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

if u dont own records i cant respect ur production skills lol

 

[Turfaholic]

Depends on where you look. I was never a rapper, but back in the myspace days I would add different beat makers just for the love of the art. Fruity Loop beats did do some serious damage to the game. And Lil Jon fooled the world with the same synth pattern. Goodies & Freek A Leek is the same damn beat.

 

[NoCompetition]

Lil Jon hustled his way all the way to the bank. how many platinum albums and singles? too many for me to count but some see and win in the game and some dont. You know you won when people are still mad about your victory years later. p.s. I aint arguin about whats been said about his beat formula. But if you know better you realize it dont matter.

 

[SOWETO]

and there really isn't even one lil jon joint y'all liked? i call bullshit.

 

[just.might.b.ok]

lex luger beats all sound the same to me.

 

[georgia boi]

The nice producers are no longer defining or re-defining what's hot anymore. They still have heat, it's just that it isn't what "hot" to the current crop of artists. These days, it's all about minimalist beats with a catchy bassline and an 808 kick. Sometimes, something a little more complex slips through the crack and becomes a hit, but still does little to change the direction of music.

I don't think the culprit is technology, because 9th Wonder was like the face of Fruityloops at one point. He kind of pioneered producers using that program. It's all about the creative mind using the program. Some people think 9th is one of the greats, while others criticize him for his drums.

As for as playing instruments, a lot of producers don't play instruments, but hire players to play for them. I will say a lot of the newer guys do play more like Lee Major (The Inkredibles), J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League, Arthur McArthur, Danja, and several others play instruments

 

[Turfaholic]

and there really isn't even one lil jon joint y'all liked? i call bullshit.

I fucked wit Lil Jon tough til I realized the shit sounded the same and got hella watered down

 

[w0rd up s0n]

lil jon back in 2002 or 03 perhaps after that it all started sounding trash and everyone started copying that same concept!

 

[Wild Self]

808s is like fast food for people ears. That shit ended the versatile boom bap music and into predictable, cheesy southern inspired strip club music. We live in a southern led culture now and producers reflect that. Outside of a few people like Static Skeletah, Kanye, and Just Blaze, the production game is assed out.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

There are plenty nice prducers

 

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