What Does It Mean to Be Black?

[loch121]

What does it mean to be white?

that's not the topic being analyzed right now.

My point is America is full of muts.White ppl be mixed w/ hella countries.Some of them got clear blooodlines like Irish ppl in Boston and Jewish ppl for example, but being black is simply a color classification.

We don't know what country we are from, so we are like refugees and our own little culture or tribe created here. We are a combination of American culture and the habits of our ancestors, mixed w/ a lot of pain for a lot of us

 

[Amotekun]

@janklow Though the particular issue between Israelis and Palestinians may be territorial the heart of the issue is the classic sense of European entitlement. If Israelis were anyone but europeans the UN would not have militarily or financially backed them in displacing people to set up a territory.

i'm just going to move past the "anyone but Europeans" part because i'm not talking about the UN setting up Israel as much as i am the fact that Palestinians don't identify as Israelis not being something ethnic. once we go beyond comparing those groups, we start to lose the metaphor.

I'm I said you come off as a white boy I'm just calling it how I see it. The only people I've ever heard use the go back to africa spiel are white boys.

no one is saying "go back to Africa." what i AM saying is that you're posting how you feel you cannot be accepted and assimilated, so i have to ask why you'd want to stay somewhere where that's the case. if the attitude's constructive, like the current situation sucks but we're moving to X or Y, that's one thing, but when you get to "we'll never be accepted or assimilated," it seems a little different.

It's not about how I feel that I will never be accepted or assimilated the proof is in the pudding. Even before Reconstruction, free Negroes were doing the damnest they could to assimilate, to show that Blacks are just as American as anyone else. Blacks have fought in every war, even when we weren't wanted, acculturated dress, politics, and even standards of beauty. From the up until now that is what every fight has been about, to be accepted and assimilated.

However, if one were to take a psychoanalysis approach to history you'd see why general acceptance and assimilation is never in the cards. Unlike every other ethnic group, Blacks are not the descendants of immigrants, for the majority of us we are the descendants of slaves, and that has a whole different spin on everything. Especially when every other ethnic group in order to to be completely on the bottom, assumed the same social racism against Blacks slave or not. Although immigrants were allowed to come in to be another form of cheap labor they were paid labor, and is totally different from a group of people brought in to be a free source of labor. Then on top of being enslaved scientific minds of the time justified the condition through all sorts of quasi pseudo racist hypothesis that Africans were inherently inferior, on every level intellect, morally, physically, ambition. These continued and became more blatant and ridiculous after the end of slavery with us going from child like creatures unable to self govern to savage beasts on the prowl that must be hunted down.

The point being although every immigrating ethnic group had to deal with some form of racism it was never so continuously and harshly used as against blacks. These pseudo scientific claims are ingrained within the majority of white culture to this day. So while other ethnic groups may have acculturated through by shortening names and moving or by carving out an ethnic enclave that for the most part was unmolested by the socio political powers that be that has never been the case for Blacks, ever. Our every attempt of seeking acceptance of proving we are just as good as has been met with the stiffest of resistance by a majority of people who on a subconscious level believe the bullshit science that was spouted over 200 years ago. There are still white kids in the burbs who think black people have tails. WTF! Acceptance is not even on the map when subconsciously these people don't even see you as equally human as they are.

I choose to stay here because there is more good I can do here than just uprooting myself and moving to Africa. i've isolated myself from those in america still goin through. I've essentially neutralized myself from the game. Blacks in America are the most influential and wealthy group of Africans on the planet. As we go the rest of Africans go.

 

[janklow]

It's not about how I feel that I will never be accepted or assimilated the proof is in the pudding.

let's be fair: it IS how you feel because not everyone agrees with you. i understand you have your argument for it, but it is what it is.

Unlike every other ethnic group, Blacks are not the descendants of immigrants, for the majority of us we are the descendants of slaves, and that has a whole different spin on everything.

i am assuming you are classifying Native Americans as immigrants?

So while other ethnic groups may have acculturated through by shortening names and moving or by carving out an ethnic enclave that for the most part was unmolested by the socio political powers that be that has never been the case for Blacks, ever.

i don't think non-black but minority-in-some-sense ethnic enclaves went for the most part unmolested. i suppose on some level we can debate the specifics

quote="PublicEnemigo1;4370632"]There are still white kids in the burbs who think black people have tails. WTF! Acceptance is not even on the map when subconsciously these people don't even see you as equally human as they are.[/quote]on the other hand, those white kids in the suburbs (or whoever fits that) think ALL KINDS of foolish shit about ALL KINDS of people, so...