What Do You Think Of This Theory?

[englishdude]

Nikki Minaj - Anaconda track has 22mil views in 1-2 days of uploading.

Beats eh, lyrics are wack as fuck and promoting whorish activity in exchange for material things (I actually listened to the track, yea I fucked up lol) some bars in there like "let him hit cus he sell coke" like wtf.... this tramp knows her audience is young impressionable females, yet shes enabling the type of behaviour that is frowned on by the masses (yet heavily promoted by major labels).... Haven't seen one person reference any lyric in the song, just alot of desperate men dribbling over a couple of .gifs.

Point is, everything surrounding hiphop these days seems to be about everything but the music/message.

'That nicki track wack as fuck' - 'Fuck you bro, she got a phat ass'

'that bobby schmurda track is wack as fuck' - 'beats hot though'

Fans are too easily mislead by simple distractions, ADHD mentality.

Same reason most artists have a short career, no one buys into the artists they just talk about it while its hot then within a year they've flip flopped on the artists and start hating lol.

Being considered a Lyricist is seemingly detremental to most artists, fans shit on them just because they take effort in their craft.

 

[Kwan Dai]

I am perplexed that Hip Hop listeners are ok with the repetitiveness.

 

[MoneyLuver]

Nikki Minaj - Anaconda track has 22mil views in 1-2 days of uploading.

Beats eh, lyrics are wack as fuck and promoting whorish activity in exchange for material things (I actually listened to the track, yea I fucked up lol) some bars in there like "let him hit cus he sell coke" like wtf.... this tramp knows her audience is young impressionable females, yet shes enabling the type of behaviour that is frowned on by the masses (yet heavily promoted by major labels).... Haven't seen one person reference any lyric in the song, just alot of desperate men dribbling over a couple of .gifs.

Point is, everything surrounding hiphop these days seems to be about everything but the music/message.

'That nicki track wack as fuck' - 'Fuck you bro, she got a phat ass'

'that bobby schmurda track is wack as fuck' - 'beats hot though'

Fans are too easily mislead by simple distractions, ADHD mentality.

Same reason most artists have a short career, no one buys into the artists they just talk about it while its hot then within a year they've flip flopped on the artists and start hating lol.

Being considered a Lyricist is seemingly detremental to most artists, fans shit on them just because they take effort in their craft.

22million views huh? I betchu half of those views were horny dudes and the other half were females who admired her. And since when was a female doing backshots such a bad thing?

Those same ADHD people you talk about are on both ends of the spectrum.

On 1 side you have children who will eat up anything that's fun or something they're not supposed to see

And on the other. We have people like you who refuse to adapt with Technology

The people who refuse to adapt with Technology are worse becuz they're more vocal and believe it or not, more ignorant to the situation. And the trolls are the main culprit

But i do agree that we shouldn't just settle for anything, that's corny. And we have a right/privilege to speak on it

 

[NoCompetition]

Your problem is that you're a "2nd hand contact" ass nigga.

In other words, you're still over there while everybody else is over here.

You're still absorbing shit like the Caveman used to. Which everybody else is living like Martian's.

You think Radio & TV, we think MP3 Player & Internet

In other words, I was just watchin Joey BadAss' "Big Dusty" video on MTV Jams while you probably tuned into your local radio station during Rush Hour and heard the Beyonce', Rihanna, and Nicki Minaj-o'clock Jam Session.

Children should be somewhat sheltered, which is what the Radio & TV are for. A parent(s) should guide & monitor wat messages they should and shouldn't be hearing. Point blank end of discussion

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In all honesty it sucks that there's a true lack of balance on the mainstream tip. But niggaz historically have always gotten censored after we've put people/situations on blast.

So why are u actin like this is supposed to Start & End with Us? High hopes maybe?

You're way off dude. I don't even have cable and hardly ever listen to the radio. In fact, the only place I get my Hip Hop from is this web site. I check out just about every link that people put up, especially the threads that do numbers.

So no, I'm not judging Hip Hop by what I hear on the radio and see on TV, I judge Hip Hop by what you guys post here and it all sounds the same IMO. The only thing that stood out lately was that Cormega joint that somebody put up last month. Otherwise it's all Trap. Nothing wrong with Trap 5-10 years ago but it's run it's course. It's boring.

Listening to songs with 808 kick and hi hats that do double and triple time has gotten boring. listening to a rapper with a southern accent has gotten boring.

Looks like Generation Y ran out of ideas.

Id be weary of judging anything based on this place. This place is mostly nonsense. And many on here "hate" Southern rap. If this is bad then yeah, stay away from the radio. Or most clubs. or the streets. or parties. But personally you can listen to what you want.cant stop anyone else from listening to what they want though. Sorry but if thats the problem, gettin mad cause "they like that" is pretty pointless. Its just one of those kind of irrational human emotions. Its like people try to listen to they want (i hope) but they cant help but look over at that crowd havin fun and feel some typa way about what the crowd is listening to. Personally it think it gets easier to not give a fck as you get older. I listen to the radio all the time when im drivin. Many of the songs i like, some i even turn from or even turn on my personal library. Amazing concept listen to what you want but it works.

 

[5 Grand]

My basic point is that Hip Hop has run its course just like Jazz, Blues and yes, Rock. There's no new ideas. The so-called underground scene even ran its course (Black Star anyone?)

If you look at all the YouTube links that are on page 1 of the IC you'll see very little variety. I can only imagine what 106 and Park is looking like nowadays.

 

[NoCompetition]

My basic point is that Hip Hop has run its course just like Jazz, Blues and yes, Rock. There's no new ideas. The so-called underground scene even ran its course (Black Star anyone?)

If you look at all the YouTube links that are on page 1 of the IC you'll see very little variety. I can only imagine what 106 and Park is looking like nowadays.

You aint really comin off as an a$$hole or nothin. You just seem frustrated. To me, its plenty of songs i like out now. Its always been that way. I focus on what i like. Havent watched 106 and park in years. But i do listen to the radio. Mainly because i drive. But if there is no hip hop or rap out now you are feelin then yeah, listen to what you do like. The "mainstream" is gon be the "mainstream". Leave it alone if you dont enjoy it. I definitely dont go by opinions on here for things to listen to. This place is more like entertainment, an alternate realm.

 

[Nah Son]

@5Grand you might have more threads than posts

 

[MoneyLuver]

My basic point is that Hip Hop has run its course just like Jazz, Blues and yes, Rock. There's no new ideas. The so-called underground scene even ran its course (Black Star anyone?)

If you look at all the YouTube links that are on page 1 of the IC you'll see very little variety. I can only imagine what 106 and Park is looking like nowadays.

Negroe stop trollin

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Being considered a Lyricist is seemingly detremental to most artists, fans shit on them just because they take effort in their craft.

i dont understand why people think this, this not necessarily the case, if anything, whats detrimental for some lyricists is that they only halfway take effort in their craft, meaning they may take pride in the words, but not the entire construction of the song.

 

[MoneyLuver]

Yall ain't tired of this nigga's Grandpa Troll threads yet?

Ether

 

[afro thunder]

My basic point is that Hip Hop has run its course just like Jazz, Blues and yes, Rock. There's no new ideas. The so-called underground scene even ran its course (Black Star anyone?)

If you look at all the YouTube links that are on page 1 of the IC you'll see very little variety. I can only imagine what 106 and Park is looking like nowadays.

Mainstream hiphop lacks variety but other than that there is lots of variety in the mixtape scene. If you can't find it you're probably looking in the wrong places.

We're in a low attention span era = fuck lyrics I need something catchy that everyone can sing along to

Everybody thinks they're a celebrity thanks to the Internet and social media = rapper blew up off one line on a wack song? I can do it too syndrome

Reality shows keep broadcasting talentless acts on TV = talent is no longer a requirement to be famous

All of the above and more is why mainstream is flooded with the same generic shit but it accurately reflects our society.

 

[32DaysOfInfiniti]

I think you are spot on with the 80s rock comparison...

Rock & Roll pioneers/singles were thriving in the 50s, and the 60s saw tons of innovation and creativity, by the 70s albums and comprehensive projects became the main focus of the consumer market, but as we rolled into the 80s however mainstream rock and music in general became extremely over produced, self indulgent, stadium rockish and glammy

Although the 80s saw the evolution of the punk and metal scenes that would eventually influence the alternative surge that stalled the bubble gum of the late 80s, overall, the charts were full of porcelain one hit wonders and pop shot anthems.

Hip hop and music in general is currently at this state, very overproduced, shiny, inherently commercial and lacking individuality...

Only difference is even the rebels today are caricatures or "commercials" if you will of the lifestyles or retro music they are emulating. There is no scene that is refreshing and new, the outsiders just rehash old concepts and essentially copy them without much elaboration.

Perhaps its the ease of data retrieval that fails our generation when it comes to inspiration not leading to outright mimicry, but when these younger acts are influenced, it is often easy to tell exactly what/who it was by...

Hip hop needs a refreshing take on minimalism... Kanye may have not executed with Yeezus, but I definitely see what he was going for. At this point, hip hop is so revealing (due to its lyrical nature) it is almost embarrassing, corny and predictable at every turn, even the positive stuff.

Time to break the formula

 

[TrillRussell]

Shit changes man..I'll put it in this perspective..in the 90's i'm pretty sure alot of the old heads that grew up on hip hop in the late 70's/80's were complaining about how the game has changed for the worst and how 2pac,Nas,Cube,Snoop,Biggie,etc. weren't doing it the right way..some of the old heads prolly even called them trash just like we call a lot of these newer acts trash...it just comes with Hip Hop being the long term success and it being able to stretch generations deep..20 years from now Niggas gone be talking about How great alot of these acts today were,they'll get put on A pedestal that other all time greats do,and they'll talk about how the current artists can't compare to that..it's Just apart of the game man..accept it