What do you think can be done about violence in many black communities?

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JokerzWyld;9177379 said:
AggyAF;9177215 said:
JokerzWyld;9177197 said:
The problem seems to be antisocial upbringing due to a lack of parents/family in the home. We can give some credence to the argument of high unemployment and low access to education but in my travels I have found that the presence of a familial unit makes all of the difference. Places in Africa like Dakar, Senegal for example have high unemployment but low violent crime. The same experience was had in Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania. It seems that the antisocial, individualist way of life practiced here is antithetical to natural human behavior and interaction. We are practicing a way of life in direct contravention to our breed.

Explain why there was more crime and violence in the past when there were more stable family units then

Whose crime rates?

The US
 
free trade schools, and incentives to participate.....

lower probation time for active enrollment.......

and even more incentives towards securing employment upon completetion
 
I already answered the question the problem is the lack of resources which is why there is crime in low income areas. Put resources and opportunities in those areas and there won't be a need for crime. You can't totally eliminate violence but at least this would be a start.
 
The solution is to go back to having strong communities that work together.

1) Have active community involvement in local schools. That means volunteering for tutoring, after school workshops and so on. I've been involved with Black Girls Code for example. The sweet spot to reach people is in that 7-17 range.http://www.blackgirlscode.com/

Sadly, our families are broken left and right, and too many kids simply aren't getting a good education in school, and also at home from their parents. If 50% of able bodied black adults volunteered, you could reach every black student out there. The whole culture in schools would shift similar to how it is in Asian communities. The same focus we put on Little League and Pop Warner should be put on the PTA.

2) Stop giving a pass to gang violence. If we're talking about sheer numbers, nothing is hitting us harder, so we have to actively run this out of our communities. I'm not with the "what about black on black violence" bullshit, but.....I do wish we had a fraction of the same energy protesting, having summits, etc., going at gangs, that we've had recently. Because a 15 year old murdered in gang violence deserves the same attention that someone shot by the cops does.

3) Invest in Black communities. Doesn't mean simply buying at black owned stores, but also investing with others together in business ventures.
 
Kwan Dai;9177063 said:
There will always be violence in the Black community. Just like there will always be violence in the white community, gay community, Asian community and every other community you care to throw in the argument.

Blacks need to stop perpetuating the lie that violence, rape, drug dealing, and all crime is concentrated in Black communities.

If, you believe or go by statistics Black kill Blacks at about 90% and whites kill whites at about 85%. The difference is negligible.

What we need is for stupid people to cease asking this stupid question.

You fucking mothafucking skunt.

And fucking dumbass.

The black serious violence rate is way higher than white and other races.

NOW get the fucking here with your head-in-the-sand bullshit.
 
AggyAF;9177174 said:
A Talented One;9176763 said:
AggyAF;9176742 said:
Violence is going down

And jobs is the answer

No, not anymore.

Experts cannot agree on what to call a recent rise in homicides, much less its cause, but new data on Friday that showed a sharp spike in homicide rates in more than 20 cities rekindled debate over whether it was time for alarm.

The data showed particularly significant increases in homicides in six cities in the first three months of the year compared with the same period last year — Chicago, Dallas, Jacksonville, Fla., Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Memphis. But almost as many cities reported a notable decline in recent months.

New York saw a 25 percent drop, while Las Vegas’s homicide total nearly doubled.

Law enforcement officials struggled to explain the numbers and differed over their significance....
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/murder-rates-cities-fbi.html?_r=0

Look at long term trends mr small island

That is irrelevant to this discussion. I am talking about last year and this year. And yes, these two years are not enough to conclude that the longer-term trend has reversed.

So I'm obviously not making any claim for a long-term reversal. Though these two years are enough to start being concerned.
 
Rasta.;9177407 said:
Why does thread starter feel the need to interject this amidst black protesting? You sound like those analysts asking "what about black on black crime"?

I'm not connecting this with the protesting. I am most certainly not one of those "But what about black on black crime?" people. OK?

We can talk about this regardless of what ever else is happening.
 
A Talented One;9177811 said:
Kwan Dai;9177063 said:
There will always be violence in the Black community. Just like there will always be violence in the white community, gay community, Asian community and every other community you care to throw in the argument.

Blacks need to stop perpetuating the lie that violence, rape, drug dealing, and all crime is concentrated in Black communities.

If, you believe or go by statistics Black kill Blacks at about 90% and whites kill whites at about 85%. The difference is negligible.

What we need is for stupid people to cease asking this stupid question.

You fucking mothafucking skunt.

And fucking dumbass.

The black serious violence rate is way higher than white and other races.

NOW get the fucking here with your head-in-the-sand bullshit.

Prove it.
 
A Talented One;9177811 said:
Kwan Dai;9177063 said:
There will always be violence in the Black community. Just like there will always be violence in the white community, gay community, Asian community and every other community you care to throw in the argument.

Blacks need to stop perpetuating the lie that violence, rape, drug dealing, and all crime is concentrated in Black communities.

If, you believe or go by statistics Black kill Blacks at about 90% and whites kill whites at about 85%. The difference is negligible.

What we need is for stupid people to cease asking this stupid question.

You fucking mothafucking skunt.

And fucking dumbass.

The black serious violence rate is way higher than white and other races.

NOW get the fucking here with your head-in-the-sand bullshit.

I don't mind insults. They actually liven things up from time to time.

With that said. If, you are going to insult at least have something to back up your claims.

So, you helmet wearing, piece of shit the next time you attempt to insult me at least do so with intelligence and wit.

The Raw Numbers

Statistics are cut-and-dry, and they do not lie. According to the FBI’s most recent homicide numbers available, from 2011, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians. (Of murders committed by Blacks, only 14 percent were of whites.) And because whites are the majority in the country — there are six times as many whites as there are Blacks — that means they commit the most murders. This could be viewed as startling to many, especially whites, because hardly ever is “white-on-white” crime dissected in the media. As an example, Time magazine’s Joe Klein wrote an entire column recently on crime, focusing on the Black community and calling it a “social disaster.” But there was no mention that whites overwhelmingly are killed by whites, which was typical of media outlets.

Violent Crimes

Whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes, according to the FBI. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led Blacks, again, more than 2-1. Williams asks: “Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African-Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they’ll be raped, assaulted or murdered?”
http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-on-black-crime/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03...far-exceeds-black-black-crime-media-conceals/

 
Kwan Dai;9177972 said:
A Talented One;9177811 said:
Kwan Dai;9177063 said:
There will always be violence in the Black community. Just like there will always be violence in the white community, gay community, Asian community and every other community you care to throw in the argument.

Blacks need to stop perpetuating the lie that violence, rape, drug dealing, and all crime is concentrated in Black communities.

If, you believe or go by statistics Black kill Blacks at about 90% and whites kill whites at about 85%. The difference is negligible.

What we need is for stupid people to cease asking this stupid question.

You fucking mothafucking skunt.

And fucking dumbass.

The black serious violence rate is way higher than white and other races.

NOW get the fucking here with your head-in-the-sand bullshit.

I don't mind insults. They actually liven things up from time to time.

With that said. If, you are going to insult at least have something to back up your claims.

So, you helmet wearing, piece of shit the next time you attempt to insult me at least do so with intelligence and wit.

The Raw Numbers

Statistics are cut-and-dry, and they do not lie. According to the FBI’s most recent homicide numbers available, from 2011, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians. (Of murders committed by Blacks, only 14 percent were of whites.) And because whites are the majority in the country — there are six times as many whites as there are Blacks — that means they commit the most murders. This could be viewed as startling to many, especially whites, because hardly ever is “white-on-white” crime dissected in the media. As an example, Time magazine’s Joe Klein wrote an entire column recently on crime, focusing on the Black community and calling it a “social disaster.” But there was no mention that whites overwhelmingly are killed by whites, which was typical of media outlets.

Violent Crimes

Whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes, according to the FBI. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led Blacks, again, more than 2-1. Williams asks: “Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African-Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they’ll be raped, assaulted or murdered?”
http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-on-black-crime/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03...far-exceeds-black-black-crime-media-conceals/

Listen bruh, no offense, but it is just embarrassing that you would post this. It does not speak to what we are talking about.

The article states that for the crimes mentioned whites are arrested at a 2:1 rate to blacks. But there are roughly five whites for every black. So that alone tells you that blacks are over-represented for the relevant crimes, and that the black crime rate for the specified crimes are higher than the white ones.

Also irrelevant is the percentage of whites killed by other whites.

So what you posted is are not the statistics that we want.
 
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Meester;9177457 said:
blackgod813;9177445 said:
Meester;9177438 said:
Strength lies not in defense but in attack. - Adolf hitler.

He lost tho

If killing 6 million jews is losing to you then its clear your enemy will defeat you..

His country lost his action ensured the new Jews Israel they now flourish more than ever...his country is still embarassed......one thing forsure is I have defeated you in this debate tho..
 
A Talented One;9178008 said:
Kwan Dai;9177972 said:
A Talented One;9177811 said:
Kwan Dai;9177063 said:
There will always be violence in the Black community. Just like there will always be violence in the white community, gay community, Asian community and every other community you care to throw in the argument.

Blacks need to stop perpetuating the lie that violence, rape, drug dealing, and all crime is concentrated in Black communities.

If, you believe or go by statistics Black kill Blacks at about 90% and whites kill whites at about 85%. The difference is negligible.

What we need is for stupid people to cease asking this stupid question.

You fucking mothafucking skunt.

And fucking dumbass.

The black serious violence rate is way higher than white and other races.

NOW get the fucking here with your head-in-the-sand bullshit.

I don't mind insults. They actually liven things up from time to time.

With that said. If, you are going to insult at least have something to back up your claims.

So, you helmet wearing, piece of shit the next time you attempt to insult me at least do so with intelligence and wit.

The Raw Numbers

Statistics are cut-and-dry, and they do not lie. According to the FBI’s most recent homicide numbers available, from 2011, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians. (Of murders committed by Blacks, only 14 percent were of whites.) And because whites are the majority in the country — there are six times as many whites as there are Blacks — that means they commit the most murders. This could be viewed as startling to many, especially whites, because hardly ever is “white-on-white” crime dissected in the media. As an example, Time magazine’s Joe Klein wrote an entire column recently on crime, focusing on the Black community and calling it a “social disaster.” But there was no mention that whites overwhelmingly are killed by whites, which was typical of media outlets.

Violent Crimes

Whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes, according to the FBI. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led Blacks, again, more than 2-1. Williams asks: “Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African-Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they’ll be raped, assaulted or murdered?”
http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-on-black-crime/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03...far-exceeds-black-black-crime-media-conceals/

Listen bruh, no offense, but it is just embarrassing that you would post this. It does not speak to what we are talking about.

The article states that for the crimes mentioned whites are arrested at a 2:1 rate to blacks. But there are roughly five whites for every black. So that alone tells you that blacks are over-represented for the relevant crimes, and that the black crime rate for the specified crimes are higher than the white ones.

Also irrelevant is the percentage of whites killed by other whites.

So what you posted is are not the statistics that we want.

Shut you ass up. What I offered backs up my original opinion and facts. Don't back track now you god damn coward. Remember you came at me.

The bottom line is, there will always be crime in Black neighborhoods be they affluent or impoverished. There is no way to eliminate crime in it's entirety.

There will always be crime in white neighborhoods be they affluent or impoverished. Which, people coming in here saying lack of jobs is the issue, education is the issue etc. That is not the issue as WHITES kill each other at about a rate of 85%. Simple as that. If, jobs and money were the cure white on white crime at the worse would be significantly lower and at best nonexistent.

Move on dude.

 

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