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Bklyn's_OX_KING;6129779 said:yo son, I think some of us were wrong saying that Biggie influenced Jay Z in not writing rhymes down.
It's the other way around. Jigga influenced the GOAT yo.
Peep what DJ Clark Kent said in an interview with XXL magazine.
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2010/03/dj-clark-kent-remembers-biggie-as-brooklyns-finest/
XXLMag.com: How’d you convince Jay to put Big on the track?
DJ Clark Kent: Jay and Dame didn’t know that I brought Big to the studio and had him in the car waiting. So I got up like I’m going to the bathroom and bring [Big] back and they look at me like I’m a funny guy. They played the song and Jay said, “You want to get on it?” Big said, “I’ll get on it,” then Jay goes in the booth and spits a brand new song. Understand what I’m telling you, in like 15 minutes Jay wrote a new song… The song was there, it was perfect already, he meets Big, stands around for a while, let the beat play, goes in the booth, does something totally different, and left the open spaces for Big to fill in
XXLMag.com: Did Big finish his verses that same day?
DJ Clark Kent: I knew Big and he perfects his bars, so I knew it wasn’t going to happen like that and I knew he was going to bug out when he saw my man not using a pen. That was the day Big decided, “I’m not writing anything down. If he’s not writing anything, I’m not writing anything down.”
XXLMag.com: So before that session Big used to write his rhymes down?
DJ Clark Kent: Yes, sir, absolutely. That’s also the day Jay and Big became friends, so it’s like, right then and there they became friends. All of a sudden you see them together and interacting with each other. Big laying his verse [for “Brooklyn’s Finest”] didn’t happen until two months later. So that could have been two months that they were together formulating the verses but Jay’s verses were done.
Muhannad X;6131756 said:I'm talking about his verses after the namechange, when he was jumping on all those tracks. This n*gga's kinda generic. What's there to get? Let's agree to disagree on this one.
Broddie;6131760 said:I'm not even a rapper and as a youngin still managed to freestyle and battle my ass off to victory thanks to an extensive vocabulary on street blocks, at jobs and at schools. So these guys who do rap for a living have no fucking excuse IMO. Especially when they're not even going off the dome like I did and are actually putting a pen to a pad.
Broddie;6131760 said:I'm not even a rapper and as a youngin still managed to freestyle and battle my ass off to victory thanks to an extensive vocabulary on street blocks, at jobs and at schools. So these guys who do rap for a living have no fucking excuse IMO. Especially when they're not even going off the dome like I did and are actually putting a pen to a pad.
A1000MILES;6131796 said:Broddie;6131760 said:I'm not even a rapper and as a youngin still managed to freestyle and battle my ass off to victory thanks to an extensive vocabulary on street blocks, at jobs and at schools. So these guys who do rap for a living have no fucking excuse IMO. Especially when they're not even going off the dome like I did and are actually putting a pen to a pad.
Every good rapper isn't a good freestyler...
Broddie;6131859 said:A1000MILES;6131796 said:Broddie;6131760 said:I'm not even a rapper and as a youngin still managed to freestyle and battle my ass off to victory thanks to an extensive vocabulary on street blocks, at jobs and at schools. So these guys who do rap for a living have no fucking excuse IMO. Especially when they're not even going off the dome like I did and are actually putting a pen to a pad.
Every good rapper isn't a good freestyler...
You misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm saying that they have the luxury of NOT being freestylers. They could sit down listening to a track for days with a pen in their hand conceptualizing verses and thinking up rhyme structures and flow patterns. They could spend hours listening to an instrumental track while browsing through a dictionary and a thesaurus hell they could even "cheat" and use a rhyming dictionary yet many of them can't even bring themselves to do that and still call themselves top notch rappers.
As one of the GOATs once said RAP is Rhytim And Poetry. If you can't even take time out of your day to put some effort on the poetry part by getting creative and have to depend on others to do that for you then I can't really fully respect you as a rapper. I mean you don't even have to be Canibus or Big Pun or Kool G Rap but you could at least be a Greg Nice. Hell even Pete Rock a producer had enough respect for the craft to pen verses that he has spit. Why can't someone who is a full time rapper do the same? keep in mind that this is coming from someone who considers EAZY DUZ IT & The Chronic two of my favorite albums of all time and those are albums well known for putting a lot of food on ghostwriters' plates.
A1000MILES;6125154 said:I don't...I stopped when I was 15...Started cause I just wanted to see if I could do it...Then it just became second nature to keep my rhymes in my head....The thing is, it's not like someone who doesn't write is literally just free styling erthing...I go through the same creative process, just not on paper...
Already Home_17;6128603 said:Disciplined InSight;6128360 said:There's nothing wrong with writing. Jay was the one that made it into this supernatural/mysterious gift, but it was actually a brain exercise of memorization when he didn't have time to write when he was out hustling in the streets until it became a natural process for him. The same with Big.
Everyone else that's attempting to do this and thinking they're light years ahead spitting garbage of those that do write are fucking retards and NEED to write.
you made this nigga jay sound like a mutant