What are you views on Fraternities and Sororities?

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Yes you are wrong. I assume you're referring to collegiate fraternities and sororities. You have to understand that in order to be successful, many people need a professional social network that can help them get important contacts, careers, and larger more critical networks. From the outside looking in, you will simply drive yourself insane trying to figure out the big secrets because there's really nothing to hide, nothing to be afraid of, and nothing to disparage.
 
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SoulRattler of Venom;58083 said:
Yes you are wrong. I assume you're referring to collegiate fraternities and sororities. You have to understand that in order to be successful, many people need a professional social network that can help them get important contacts, careers, and larger more critical networks. From the outside looking in, you will simply drive yourself insane trying to figure out the big secrets because there's really nothing to hide, nothing to be afraid of, and nothing to disparage.

So basically you saying being part of the organization that excludes most of the population because you're not part of it is nothing to disparage? Fraternities and sororities to me are elitist groups who claims to help out the community but in fact is only helping out themselves.
 
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sanman86;58203 said:
So basically you saying being part of the organization that excludes most of the population because you're not part of it is nothing to disparage? Fraternities and sororities to me are elitist groups who claims to help out the community but in fact is only helping out themselves.

The key component that you are missing, sir, is that admission into these organizations is open to the general public. In a perfect world, there would be no need for exclusivity. However, we live in a world where you have to know specific people to obtain specific goals. Fraternal organizations are, for many, the first step into a more powerful or successful life... far from elitist lol don't let a few cocky people with letters on their chests mar your perception of the general organization.
 
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SoulRattler of Venom;58384 said:
The key component that you are missing, sir, is that admission into these organizations is open to the general public. In a perfect world, there would be no need for exclusivity. However, we live in a world where you have to know specific people to obtain specific goals. Fraternal organizations are, for many, the first step into a more powerful or successful life... far from elitist lol don't let a few cocky people with letters on their chests mar your perception of the general organization.

So what you're saying is that if a job opening arises, both of us are the candidates and because you are in the same frat as the boss you get hired over me? That's basically what you're saying and it's not fair in my eyes. You can name a whole lot of famous people who is affiliated with these organizations as selling points but that just add to the elitism that is part of this organizations.
 
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sanman86;58488 said:
So what you're saying is that if a job opening arises, both of us are the candidates and because you are in the same frat as the boss you get hired over me? That's basically what you're saying and it's not fair in my eyes. You can name a whole lot of famous people who is affiliated with these organizations as selling points but that just add to the elitism that is part of this organizations.

Well that sometimes can be the case but don't think that being in a fraternity automatically pushes you to the head of the line everytime. At the same time, if we both apply for the same job and have similar qualifications, why would you get mad at me or the employer for hiring me when you refused to join the given fraternity? Networks and organizations are there for you to take advantage of. If you decide to close yourself off to them, who else is to blame when you get passed over for someone who did?
 
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Lol @ frats being some secret shit. Maybe at Harvard or something, but anywhere else they beg you to join! My phone rings off the hook with these kids trying to get me to join.

Theres no crazy admission shit. You pay a fee your in, they give you some clothes to sport, and you go and do community events with them. Maybe play some basketball or goto a party once in awhile. Its not a big deal. Really!
 
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SoulRattler of Venom;58524 said:
Well that sometimes can be the case but don't think that being in a fraternity automatically pushes you to the head of the line everytime. At the same time, if we both apply for the same job and have similar qualifications, why would you get mad at me or the employer for hiring me when you refused to join the given fraternity? Networks and organizations are there for you to take advantage of. If you decide to close yourself off to them, who else is to blame when you get passed over for someone who did?

Refused to join the fraternity? You make it seem like they ask you to join the fraternity, you have to pledge( and/or get hazed) into a fraternity. Networks should be able to be taken advantage of by hard work and determination, not because you got in a frat.
 
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sanman86;58556 said:
Refused to join the fraternity? You make it seem like they ask you to join the fraternity, you have to pledge( and/or get hazed) into a fraternity. Networks should be able to be taken advantage of by hard work and determination, not because you got in a frat.

Hazing is now against the law. You pledge yes, but trust me it is just a bunch of kids doing this. Its not that serious dude. If you don't wanna be apart of it in the future you dont have to be.
 
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sanman86;58556 said:
Refused to join the fraternity? You make it seem like they ask you to join the fraternity, you have to pledge( and/or get hazed) into a fraternity. Networks should be able to be taken advantage of by hard work and determination, not because you got in a frat.

Hard work and determination gets you into a fraternity, more or less depending on the organization and chapter.

redhandedbandit;61302 said:
why do black frats and soros claim greek letters

They use Greek letters because they took cues from pre-existing White fraternities and sororities. Also, they recognized the huge impact and influence of Egyptian society upon Greece so one can also view it as taking back what was their's in the first place.
 
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getchamoneyrigh;58552 said:
Lol @ frats being some secret shit. Maybe at Harvard or something, but anywhere else they beg you to join! My phone rings off the hook with these kids trying to get me to join.

Theres no crazy admission shit. You pay a fee your in, they give you some clothes to sport, and you go and do community events with them. Maybe play some basketball or goto a party once in awhile. Its not a big deal. Really!

Speak for yourself on that
 
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College gangs... I'm not saying all, but I have witnessed the wars that take place at some of these parties first hand.
 
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SoulRattler of Venom;61332 said:
Hard work and determination gets you into a fraternity, more or less depending on the organization and chapter.

They use Greek letters because they took cues from pre-existing White fraternities and sororities. Also, they recognized the huge impact and influence of Egyptian society upon Greece so one can also view it as taking back what was their's in the first place.

So why not use Egyptian symbols rather than Greek letters and Eurocentric ideas to create their orgs?
 
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bless the child;62931 said:
So why not use Egyptian symbols rather than Greek letters and Eurocentric ideas to create their orgs?

I can't tell you why people chose NOT to do something because I wasn't there in the early to mid 1900's.
 
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Total waste of time unless

You wanna be popular

You wanna get girls/guys

You wanna make ppl jealous

If I'm gonna pay $1000+ to join an organization, I want $5000 at the end of the year. You wanna be a part of something important that pays, join the military. All the frats do is party walk, clean up trash, and [sometimes] read to kids. You paid $1000 for that?
 
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perspective@100;62842 said:
College gangs... I'm not saying all, but I have witnessed the wars that take place at some of these parties first hand.

Yup, they're regular crips, bloods, GD's, Latin Kings, and Vice Lords.
 
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If you are uninformed about these orgs, then OF COURSE you're going to have a uneducated view for it. If all you see if the hazing, the parties, and the stepping, I suggest you do some research on said organization before you give your 100% opinion on it.

Just a thought.
 
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