I rank him anywhere from 6 to 12. He fluxuates around there to me because album for album he don't have that solid 5 mic'er ...but there is something to be said for murking everybody that's just about ever been on a track with you. We talkin about JayZ, Nas, Kiss, Snoop, Lil Wayne about 3 times, the Game, busta, Ross those are some of the heavy weights he's outshined while on the same track with them. What he did to T.I the nigga shoulda shoulda been locked away for murder charges. Add the fact that he can do commerical songs like "potion" and "southern hospitally"(throw them bows) and still be spittin some of the coldest rhyme scheme multi's in the game and he can make meaninful songs like "runaway" plus got a catalog with a few club classics on each album...I can't rank him lower than 12 and considering all that, 12 is actually too low. With a classic album to add to the catalog that would probably cement him in the top 5. He's the best in the south right now 'rap wise' to me already(yeah, even better than Dre 3k)