Wendy's To Switch To Self Ordering And Robot Burger Maker To Avoid $15/Hr Wage

[2stepz_ahead]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

 

[zzombie]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

 

[zzombie]

Lol at the government wanting ppl to be smarter.

not smarter in the way you are thinking of it but more skilled

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

man those dudes aint about to have morals when the perks alone for leaving are better than if they stay.

and most of them are just following thru on the previous persons waves or the company already has a following and established name

 

[(ob)Scene]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

 

[zzombie]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

man those dudes aint about to have morals when the perks alone for leaving are better than if they stay.

and most of them are just following thru on the previous persons waves or the company already has a following and established name

Then they get paid for keeping the waves steady

but you are right about the bolded i believe america needs a revolution and cultural shift in corporate pay just not into the crazy shit some people would want

 

[nex gin]

The key phrase is "low skilled worker". If you dont have an education or a skill you are fucked. If Wendys does go this route the "low skilled worker" flipping the burger will get screwed but the "high skilled worker" who can install, program and repair the new automated system will hit a lick.

Education is the new currency of the 21st century. If u dont have it youre fucked. Cacs know this and thats why they are intentionally trying to make college more and more expensive each year. They are trying to price middle and working class people out of higher education so they can keep flipping burgers and maintain total control of their uneducated lives. Without an education you dont stand a chance in the 21st century.

Its a cold game and these cacs are determined to make it even colder.

But where does it end? 1 IT guy will replace the work of 20 burger flippers/ cashiers. So unskilled workers won't even be able to do that...and then won't even be able to afford to get to college because they would have been priced out..

They're making it so that the only option is French style revolution

I've been working in IT for 15 years. I see it firsthand every day, so I'm not surprised by this at all. I think they are using the minimum wage excuse to do what makes logical and financial sense to them. The sad truth is that there are a lot of jobs that can easily be replaced by technology. I think a lot of companies are afraid to take that step because they don't want to deal w/ the backlash and public relations nightmare that comes w/being "that company who put a lot of people out of work". My advice to people is to find a job where the likelihood of being replaced by a computer (in your lifetime) is slim to none. I know that's easier said than done depending on a person's skill set and personal background, but don't be surprised when you see this happen more and more in the near future.

 

[LPast]

What Im gettin at is a bottom of the totem pole job is just that. You cant raise the amount people make there to save them. The cost of living will just go up to compensate they will still be at the bottom without bankable skills. Thats how economics work. Trying to make a bottom job something else is the error. It is what it is. Seems simple to me maybe im just fortunate to understand the reality. But again I do support raising minimum wage but not to where it begins to have negative consequences and backfires due to inflation and inevitable higher prices.

Because what you're missing is the part that wages haven't increased along with the cost of living. There used to be a time where people at the bottom were still able to afford to feed their families and pay a mortgage and have a car. Companies have found a way to charge more across the board, pay less to their employees, and have less employees to pay.

The cost of living has increased and continues to increase... while wages increases have stagnated and that's a path of destruction.

This guy gets it

Research the COL in ya area and compare it to your annual income and I'm sure a lot of you would learn you living below that maintaining line

Don't let the fact that you pay ya bills on time or you ain't struggling fool ya, a lot of us being fucked on our wages. You might be making minimum wage in your position

This is it exactly.

The problem is a lot of people take their insecurities about what they earn and then they project that onto the people earning near minimum wage. It's a very disgusting and selfish mindset many Americans possess. It's the belief that if you raise minimum wage, those workers will have incomes similar to their own. It's not dissimilar from what these corporate cats believe. The thought is:

"Hell no, don't no fucking burger flipper deserve to make $15 per hour when my salary averages out to $17-20 per hour. That will put them in the same class as me."

First of all, not only are you scum underserving of living in this nation, you are also incredibly dense. MOTHERFUCKA THEY'RE GAMING YOU TOO. We all should be making more than we are. It doesn't just begin and end with the minimum wage.

Basic economics dictate that as productivity increases, wages should increase as well. There is no sound reason in saying that the minimum wage worker doesn't deserve to make more than a disrespectful $7.50 an hour but ONE CEO deserves to take all of the profits from those workers and pocket it as a bonus ON TOP of his regular salary.

You guys have been made into sheep following the herd. We're the richest nation IN THE HISTORY of the world... walking around on a day to day to basis could you tell? Only the top 1% of our citizenship possesses that wealth.

Quoted for emphasis. The Bible verse, "love thy neighbour" is so powerful...

To add on to this thought, I was watching the history channel a few years back. They were discussing the 7 deadly sins.

So for the topic of envy, they polled Americans if they would rather make 100k and their coworker would make 150k, or make 80k and their coworker make 50k... Guess which won...

Think on that for a minute...

 

[zzombie]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

The key phrase is "low skilled worker". If you dont have an education or a skill you are fucked. If Wendys does go this route the "low skilled worker" flipping the burger will get screwed but the "high skilled worker" who can install, program and repair the new automated system will hit a lick.

Education is the new currency of the 21st century. If u dont have it youre fucked. Cacs know this and thats why they are intentionally trying to make college more and more expensive each year. They are trying to price middle and working class people out of higher education so they can keep flipping burgers and maintain total control of their uneducated lives. Without an education you dont stand a chance in the 21st century.

Its a cold game and these cacs are determined to make it even colder.

But where does it end? 1 IT guy will replace the work of 20 burger flippers/ cashiers. So unskilled workers won't even be able to do that...and then won't even be able to afford to get to college because they would have been priced out..

They're making it so that the only option is French style revolution

I've been working in IT for 15 years. I see it firsthand every day, so I'm not surprised by this at all. I think they are using the minimum wage excuse to do what makes logical and financial sense to them. The sad truth is that there are a lot of jobs that can easily be replaced by technology. I think a lot of companies are afraid to take that step because they don't want to deal w/ the backlash and public relations nightmare that comes w/being "that company who put a lot of people out of work". My advice to people is to find a job where the likelihood of being replaced by a computer (in your lifetime) is slim to none. I know that's easier said than done depending on a person's skill set and personal background, but don't be surprised when you see this happen more and more in the near future.

Certain trades trade skills will never be able to be replaced by machines.

And....quiet as kept....barbers make bread. Especially if you own the shop. Point me to a robot that can cut a proper taper....

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

i made a thread a while ago and i explained how pharma works.

they build a billion dollar facility to tear it down or abandon it only to built another billion dollar facility somewhere else so they can pay the local population lower wages.

all while profiting billions of dollars.

at some point it crosses from making money and being profitable to being greedy and fattening the higher up pockets and making shareholders happy. but they keep people happy by donating a few million. a fraction of a fraction of a fraction

at some point enough has to be enough

 

[skpjr78]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

word to richard fuld and carly fiorina
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5965360
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1848501_1848500_1848417,00.html

 

[(ob)Scene]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

Less competitive? Nigga...

In the second experiment, Ariely and Norton asked participants to guess how wealth was distributed in the United States, and then to write how it would be divvied up in an ideal world (this, it seems, served as the template for Norton’s most recent study). Americans had little idea how concentrated wealth truly was. Subjects estimated that the top 20 percent of U.S. households owned about 59 percent of the country’s net worth, whereas in the real world, they owned about 84 percent of it. In their own private utopia, subjects said that the top quintile would claim just 32 percent of the wealth.

“People drastically underestimate the current disparities in wealth and income in their societies,” Norton told me in an email, “and their ideals are more equal than their estimates, which are already more equal than the actual levels. Maybe most importantly, people from all walks of life—Democrats and Republicans, rich and poor, all over the world—have a large degree of consensus in their ideals: Everyone’s ideals are more equal than the way they think things are.” Theoretically, Americans aren’t exceptional in their views about distribution at all—they have a sense of fairness similar to that of Germans, French, and Australians, and most Americans would be offended if they actually knew the degree of economic inequality that exists in this country.
http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...nequality_is_new_harvard_business_school.html

So this next excerpt from that same article summates it all...

In the 1960s, the typical corporate chieftain in the U.S. earned 20 times as much as the average employee. Today, depending on whose estimate you choose, he makes anywhere from 272 to 354 times as much. According to the AFL-CIO, the average CEO takes home more than $12 million, while the average worker makes about $34,000.

So basically Americans THINK the ratio of CEO to employee pay is about 30:1.

Ask them what the ratio would be in their utopia and they say about 7:1.

The shit is really anywhere from 272-354:1.

But you bitching about $15 an hour.

 

[nex gin]

The key phrase is "low skilled worker". If you dont have an education or a skill you are fucked. If Wendys does go this route the "low skilled worker" flipping the burger will get screwed but the "high skilled worker" who can install, program and repair the new automated system will hit a lick.

Education is the new currency of the 21st century. If u dont have it youre fucked. Cacs know this and thats why they are intentionally trying to make college more and more expensive each year. They are trying to price middle and working class people out of higher education so they can keep flipping burgers and maintain total control of their uneducated lives. Without an education you dont stand a chance in the 21st century.

Its a cold game and these cacs are determined to make it even colder.

But where does it end? 1 IT guy will replace the work of 20 burger flippers/ cashiers. So unskilled workers won't even be able to do that...and then won't even be able to afford to get to college because they would have been priced out..

They're making it so that the only option is French style revolution

I've been working in IT for 15 years. I see it firsthand every day, so I'm not surprised by this at all. I think they are using the minimum wage excuse to do what makes logical and financial sense to them. The sad truth is that there are a lot of jobs that can easily be replaced by technology. I think a lot of companies are afraid to take that step because they don't want to deal w/ the backlash and public relations nightmare that comes w/being "that company who put a lot of people out of work". My advice to people is to find a job where the likelihood of being replaced by a computer (in your lifetime) is slim to none. I know that's easier said than done depending on a person's skill set and personal background, but don't be surprised when you see this happen more and more in the near future.

Certain trades trade skills will never be able to be replaced by machines.

And....quiet as kept....barbers make bread. Especially if you own the shop. Point me to a robot that can cut a proper taper....

lol....true. Certain trades are a while off from being replaced by machines, but I guarantee that there is a MIT grad student somewhere conjuring up tech ideas that will eventually leave a lot of people unemployed in the future. It's sad......capitalism is a mf.

How long do you think it's going to take them to refine something like this so that it doesn't require human intervention?

[video=youtube;oMREA_XLQ1A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMREA_XLQ1A[/video]

They are already working on tech for robotic hair salons. Shit is crazy fam.

 

[rapmusic]

So when will the robot doctors, teachers, and policemen be made? Lets try this across the board...

 

[(ob)Scene]

And stop with the jargon about, "make me less competitive than other companies in my industry." All the American companies in your industry would be playing with the same rules. If yours doesn't succeed given the same deck then you deserve to fail. You don't get to remain afloat and living plush at the expense of your employees.

$15 ain't really shit either. Instead of only being able to afford only one #1 at McDonald's per hour now Mr. Bossman blessed you with the ability to be able to afford a #1 for both you and your wife.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

Less competitive? Nigga...

In the second experiment, Ariely and Norton asked participants to guess how wealth was distributed in the United States, and then to write how it would be divvied up in an ideal world (this, it seems, served as the template for Norton’s most recent study). Americans had little idea how concentrated wealth truly was. Subjects estimated that the top 20 percent of U.S. households owned about 59 percent of the country’s net worth, whereas in the real world, they owned about 84 percent of it. In their own private utopia, subjects said that the top quintile would claim just 32 percent of the wealth.

“People drastically underestimate the current disparities in wealth and income in their societies,” Norton told me in an email, “and their ideals are more equal than their estimates, which are already more equal than the actual levels. Maybe most importantly, people from all walks of life—Democrats and Republicans, rich and poor, all over the world—have a large degree of consensus in their ideals: Everyone’s ideals are more equal than the way they think things are.” Theoretically, Americans aren’t exceptional in their views about distribution at all—they have a sense of fairness similar to that of Germans, French, and Australians, and most Americans would be offended if they actually knew the degree of economic inequality that exists in this country.
http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...nequality_is_new_harvard_business_school.html

So this next excerpt from that same article summates it all...

In the 1960s, the typical corporate chieftain in the U.S. earned 20 times as much as the average employee. Today, depending on whose estimate you choose, he makes anywhere from 272 to 354 times as much. According to the AFL-CIO, the average CEO takes home more than $12 million, while the average worker makes about $34,000.

So basically Americans THINK the ratio of CEO to employee pay is about 30:1.

Ask them what the ratio would be in their utopia and they say about 7:1.

The shit is really anywhere from 272-354:1.

But you bitching about $15 an hour.

i think your missing the point.....raising someones wages who is at the "bottom" of the totem pole will make everything else up eventually...because no one wants to be out done if they are at the same level and no one is going to take a pay cut

 

[(ob)Scene]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

Less competitive? Nigga...

In the second experiment, Ariely and Norton asked participants to guess how wealth was distributed in the United States, and then to write how it would be divvied up in an ideal world (this, it seems, served as the template for Norton’s most recent study). Americans had little idea how concentrated wealth truly was. Subjects estimated that the top 20 percent of U.S. households owned about 59 percent of the country’s net worth, whereas in the real world, they owned about 84 percent of it. In their own private utopia, subjects said that the top quintile would claim just 32 percent of the wealth.

“People drastically underestimate the current disparities in wealth and income in their societies,” Norton told me in an email, “and their ideals are more equal than their estimates, which are already more equal than the actual levels. Maybe most importantly, people from all walks of life—Democrats and Republicans, rich and poor, all over the world—have a large degree of consensus in their ideals: Everyone’s ideals are more equal than the way they think things are.” Theoretically, Americans aren’t exceptional in their views about distribution at all—they have a sense of fairness similar to that of Germans, French, and Australians, and most Americans would be offended if they actually knew the degree of economic inequality that exists in this country.
http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...nequality_is_new_harvard_business_school.html

So this next excerpt from that same article summates it all...

In the 1960s, the typical corporate chieftain in the U.S. earned 20 times as much as the average employee. Today, depending on whose estimate you choose, he makes anywhere from 272 to 354 times as much. According to the AFL-CIO, the average CEO takes home more than $12 million, while the average worker makes about $34,000.

So basically Americans THINK the ratio of CEO to employee pay is about 30:1.

Ask them what the ratio would be in their utopia and they say about 7:1.

The shit is really anywhere from 272-354:1.

But you bitching about $15 an hour.

i think your missing the point.....raising someones wages who is at the "bottom" of the totem pole will make everything else up eventually...because no one wants to be out done if they are at the same level and no one is going to take a pay cut

No, you're the one missing the point. Like badly missing the point.

I already addressed and shut down that mindset clear as day on the previous page. Swallow your insecurities because no one at the same level should be taking pay cuts. You're vastly misunderstanding who it is that should be taking pay cuts... and not all of them would even be paycuts since most profits end up being bonuses on top of salaries already earned.

You're mad at the idea of a person doing just as much work as you (just a different type of work) for earning the same pay. But you're not upset that one person at the top of the ladder takes the extra earnings off of your labor and gives himself 300 times more than what you make. FOH.

 

[Stiff]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

And this is the inherent flaw of capitalism...it is completely focused on the individual....and in this case "corporation are people". Wendy's has all incentive to do what's best for Wendy's to maximize profits as much as possible even if it is at the expense of society as a whole.

If corporations are people, then they are the most sociopathic and apathetic people to have ever lived.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Wage increase should come with profitability not productivity. A CEO makes more because their job when done correctly is more profitable to the enterprise

ceo's still make millions when companies are failing

they should not but they still do deserve to make much more than the average worker because they set the whole agenda and carry it out

How much more?

It depends on the individual company and industry. why should i pay a minimum wage worker 15 an hour if doing so will lessen the profitability of my enterprise???? and make it less competitive with the other companies in my industry??

Less competitive? Nigga...

In the second experiment, Ariely and Norton asked participants to guess how wealth was distributed in the United States, and then to write how it would be divvied up in an ideal world (this, it seems, served as the template for Norton’s most recent study). Americans had little idea how concentrated wealth truly was. Subjects estimated that the top 20 percent of U.S. households owned about 59 percent of the country’s net worth, whereas in the real world, they owned about 84 percent of it. In their own private utopia, subjects said that the top quintile would claim just 32 percent of the wealth.

“People drastically underestimate the current disparities in wealth and income in their societies,” Norton told me in an email, “and their ideals are more equal than their estimates, which are already more equal than the actual levels. Maybe most importantly, people from all walks of life—Democrats and Republicans, rich and poor, all over the world—have a large degree of consensus in their ideals: Everyone’s ideals are more equal than the way they think things are.” Theoretically, Americans aren’t exceptional in their views about distribution at all—they have a sense of fairness similar to that of Germans, French, and Australians, and most Americans would be offended if they actually knew the degree of economic inequality that exists in this country.
http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...nequality_is_new_harvard_business_school.html

So this next excerpt from that same article summates it all...

In the 1960s, the typical corporate chieftain in the U.S. earned 20 times as much as the average employee. Today, depending on whose estimate you choose, he makes anywhere from 272 to 354 times as much. According to the AFL-CIO, the average CEO takes home more than $12 million, while the average worker makes about $34,000.

So basically Americans THINK the ratio of CEO to employee pay is about 30:1.

Ask them what the ratio would be in their utopia and they say about 7:1.

The shit is really anywhere from 272-354:1.

But you bitching about $15 an hour.

i think your missing the point.....raising someones wages who is at the "bottom" of the totem pole will make everything else up eventually...because no one wants to be out done if they are at the same level and no one is going to take a pay cut

No, you're the one missing the point. Like badly missing the point.

I already addressed and shut down that mindset clear as day on the previous page. Swallow your insecurities because no one at the same level should be taking pay cuts. You're vastly misunderstanding who it is that should be taking pay cuts... and not all of them would even be paycuts since most profits end up being bonuses on top of salaries already earned.

You're mad at the idea of a person doing just as much work as you (just a different type of work) for earning the same pay. But you're not upset that one person at the top of the ladder takes the extra earnings off of your labor and gives himself 300 times more than what you make. FOH.

the people i am talking about who wont be taking paycuts are the people are the top of the ladder.

damn you hurling insults without properly trying to get a clear understand of what could be taken as miscommunication