Welfare programs did more damage than crack in the hood

[desertrain10]

its never gonna stop if people like cosby and the country doesn't address the problems the system poses to the progress of blacks and the impoverished...

HOTDAMN- man if it ain't one thing its another - how many damn excuses are you gonna find? - I swear this new generation of black Americans are there own worst enemy when it comes to addressing this hot issue. The system is fucked-up and now some people live off of that premise and many will never get up - I said get up - SO DON'T TWIST my words. FYI in those troubled communities who destroys school property? and makes it a terrible environment for those who truly want to learn - who birthed them children and abandoned them? - to be raised by gangs and such - so now what's the excuse for not addressing that issue.

well you know how they say we are products of our environment... well the system makes for an environment that perpetuates crime, drug use, teen parents, so called welfare "dependency" amongst its weakest and poor ....problems that plague poor communities around the world really

not making excuses just keeping it real bruh... blacks we do have to start looking in the mirror but we also need to demand more from our government

 

[kingblaze84]

Weren't Black families already destabilized prior to Welfare?

Most single women didn't have more kids when they were on welfare, since the typical family was comprised of 1-2 children.

I don't see how welfare created a legacy of dependency--if anything, a crumbling economy, less jobs because of outsourcing, and low wages have continually damaged the hood. Welfare is a need based program--not just regulated to Black and Latino folks. It is dependent on how good/bad the economy is, and a lack of alternatives.

Another fantastic post fight here.....cut welfare and we will REALLY see things get bad in the hood. And everywhere else in America. Riots and chaos would occur out of nowhere, ESPECIALLY with the high cost of living these days.

You ain't see nothing - wait and see what happens when they start cutting/reducing SS benefits...especially for those who paid into the system. Yeah we got some real problems when old people gotta fight to get what they worked for....or some damn crooked ass Politician tells them to be fair and spread the wealth around - as the various[i/] dead beats of society stand in the background hollering 'bout these motherfuckers owe me!

the majority of people on welfare are white middle americans. fact.

That isn't factually true - let's break it down per capita & stop lumping all the different races that claim to be white as white...those results are skewed - when U separate the races the percentages are very high - they are what they are - I feel for them poor little children....what kind of future will they have? this woman is a damn whore and she uses them poor children as pawns...she surrounds herself with those pathetic looking little babies & the liberals eat it up - note: did any black people feel pity for the children and offer up housing for this woman.....NO. I betcha somewhere/how this woman will suddenly appear in a political commercial about how the Republicans are trying 2 kill/starve little black babies.

You're in denial now, MOST people on welfare are WHITE. PERIOD. If you REALLY want to make this a race issue, address why so many white people are on welfare out there.

 

[High Revolutionary]

Smh at my thread getting moved to the Bermuda Triangle of the IC known as Religion & Race.

Anyway there's an old quote:

"Give a man fish he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime."

Welfare is like giving a man fish.

 

[High Revolutionary]

Still think this is true in my estimation.

 

[janklow]

Still think this is true in my estimation.

but MAYBE we could bump it by adding a little more than a self co-sign?

 

[High Revolutionary]

Still think this is true in my estimation.

but MAYBE we could bump it by adding a little more than a self co-sign?

Okay.

This video isn't specifically about black neighborhoods but is still very much relevant.

 

[jono]

No one thing can cause such blight, its a witches brew of issues that caused the hoods to end up how they are a lot of them are mentioned already:

-drugs

-family failures

-school failures

-outsourcing

-lack of well paying work

-prison

-death/violence

But the things I haven't seen are issues like here in Detroit where you have a major brain drain in the inner city.

Detroit has a very high dropout rate, but we also produce some decent students. They go to 4 (6) year Universities, they graduate and all that jazz but they never come back.

You also have problems with those who migrate to the suburbs looking for work or who found work, better and more affordable housing out there...these people never come back either.

When criminals are taken off the streets, they are released right back into the environment they came from. When people graduate college they see the ability to leave behind the environment they came from.

 

[maestro_lungs]

No one thing can cause such blight, its a witches brew of issues that caused the hoods to end up how they are a lot of them are mentioned already:

-drugs

-family failures

-school failures

-outsourcing

-lack of well paying work

-prison

-death/violence

But the things I haven't seen are issues like here in Detroit where you have a major brain drain in the inner city.

Detroit has a very high dropout rate, but we also produce some decent students. They go to 4 (6) year Universities, they graduate and all that jazz but they never come back.

You also have problems with those who migrate to the suburbs looking for work or who found work, better and more affordable housing out there...these people never come back either.

When criminals are taken off the streets, they are released right back into the environment they came from. When people graduate college they see the ability to leave behind the environment they came from.

Everything This Brother Just said is So True. Detroit is a Black Neighborhood on a Large Scale. All These Things led to a Dependency on Welfare (Or it did. Welfare Refom in 96 changed alot of shit, Especially Here in New York) A dependency on Welfare didn't Lead to These Things, So I'm not sure How The Programs were the One that did Damage.

 

[plocc]

I'm 44, and I dont know about other cities and their welfare system, but iM from Milwaukee, Wi. I've watched generations of certain families live off welfare. They used to pay more money per child here. If a woman had 8 kids the max was 1044 plus food stamps. Milwaukee was a welfare magnet in the 70's and 80's. From this came black boys who had no concept of getting a job. These boys grew up to be welfare pimps waiting on their girls to get their check on the 1st. Some girls grew up seeing their mothers have no aspirations other than having another baby without any regards to what kind of man the father would or could be. Not all people in the hood lived like this but the majority did. I was one of the few kids in my neighborhood who grew up with both parents present that worked jobs. I hated that my parents were so strict but my dad was on some Furious Styles shit and while I had to be in the crib when the street lights came on, I still spent a lot of time at friends houses which were welfare families, and it was anything goes in these homes. Back then I thought it was cool cause it seemed like they didnt have no rules. They stayed out late, smoked squares, cussed in front their mama. Shit they didnt have to skip school, they didnt have to go if they didnt want to. All my homies who grew up like that are dead, have been to penitentiary are strung out, alchoholics, and homeless. Welfare had a big hand in that. This town now is like a big Gary, Ind. Especially the northside.

 

[moedays]

Welfare didn't have parents abandoning their children, literally throwing them away like yesterdays garbage. I can't agree with the t/s statement.