WE NEED SAMPLING BACK IN HIP HOP!!!!

[SlickestR]

So Sampling is the only way to make great hip hop beats?

what's wrong with a producer building the beat from the ground up?

i respect them niggas who does that sampling shit well.. but i have more respect for them niggas who can put

a great beat together without using a fucking sample, even if they're using a beat making program on the computer.

 

[king hassan]

the sample



the sample

 

[DarthRozay]

I have always sampled and I love it man.Shit is so ill it´s like a game.Like a puzzle.Heart of hip hop.What sucks is that mpc[s cost way too much money man.

I think I´m a pretty good sampler on the fruity.I only use vinil nah mean.Some of my shit is on youtube.check it out.

the great ones are, the 4k is still $1000 used, 2500 is around that. even older ones like the 60 and 3k are damn near $1000 or a little bit over. 2000, 1000, and 500 are the only ones you can get for $500 or less. its a shame they're so expensive.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

you also forget that turntablism is dying as well. Most people my age know nothing about vinyl. and their parents don't even own record players Even djs nowadays don't know how to mix live. You can complain about digging but most of us don't even have the means to sample IF we had the vinyl records

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

I mean ya think sampling is a dying art.I can´t stand those rick ross beats no more them shits sound mad weird.Some are hella tight like maybach music ad all but the rest are horrible.Lex luger got like 2 hot beats out of his 100 that sound the same.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Sampling has NEVER left...just stop listening to the radio.

 

[MorganFreemanKing]

FUCK THAT RICK ROSS STYLE BEATS.SHIT´S MAD WACK B.SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING NINTENDO GAME WITH SOME SNARES AND CLAPS STACKED AND HI HATS.WE NEED SAMPLING AGAIN HOMIE!

what about sampling video games?

 

[DarthRozay]

FUCK THAT RICK ROSS STYLE BEATS.SHIT´S MAD WACK B.SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING NINTENDO GAME WITH SOME SNARES AND CLAPS STACKED AND HI HATS.WE NEED SAMPLING AGAIN HOMIE!

what about sampling video games?

lmao "FUCK THEM ATARI BEATS"

I was surpised to see Dollar and a Dream III from Cole World had a sample from a video game in it.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Examples of what the T/S is talking about when he meant "Atari beats"..lmao.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TotbU952HNk&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQxJ9Ayn1fw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bexl8WP147Y

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

That nigga apollo brown is sick.gotdamn!

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Examples of what the T/S is talking about when he meant "Atari beats"..lmao.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TotbU952HNk&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQxJ9Ayn1fw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bexl8WP147Y

Yes....I think stay scheming is the only beat I can actually fuck wit it.

 

[Ounceman]

No. how about making music people would want to sample. All the great music of the 70s and 80s where the samples are coming from used creativity and uniqueness. Now everyone wants to copy the formula thats hot for the time being

Powerful post. i would much rather hear an instrumental from scratch where the producer includes his or her own ideas and harmonic progressions over a sample. i mean i have nothing against sampling at all as it pretty much is the foundation for hip hop and some of my fav hip hop producers (dilla, madlib) are the best at utilizing it. but being a musician myself, it is sometimes difficult to defend the musical aspect of hip hop while im conversing with my musician buddies when the purists themselves would like to revert back to borrowing ideas instead of invigoratingly creating new ones. and thats what we need in hip hop is originality. musicianship should also be taught within the artform. even alot of sample-oriented producers cannot comprehend one sheet of music. we need to progress and not regress. we need more shepherds and less sheep. instead of taking it back and digging in the crates, how about moving forward and blazing new paths and shattering tradition

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Hip Hop is not the only genre to use sampling

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Hip Hop is not the only genre to use sampling

Of course not...Jazz niggas sample each other all the time...

Original (and fuckin' beautiful composition by the great Alex North)

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[rip.dilla]

Sampling has NEVER left...just stop listening to the radio.

 

[smokelahoma]

business done fucked up the sampling aspect of music. everybody wanna get compensated for every little stitch of a sample u may use in a beat. In my opinion, alot of these artists already successful and eating why not let an up and comer live a little if u like the song? too many greedy fucks out here. thats why sampling is R.I.P. for the most part.

 

[king hassan]

No. how about making music people would want to sample. All the great music of the 70s and 80s where the samples are coming from used creativity and uniqueness. Now everyone wants to copy the formula thats hot for the time being

Powerful post. i would much rather hear an instrumental from scratch where the producer includes his or her own ideas and harmonic progressions over a sample. i mean i have nothing against sampling at all as it pretty much is the foundation for hip hop and some of my fav hip hop producers (dilla, madlib) are the best at utilizing it. but being a musician myself, it is sometimes difficult to defend the musical aspect of hip hop while im conversing with my musician buddies when the purists themselves would like to revert back to borrowing ideas instead of invigoratingly creating new ones. and thats what we need in hip hop is originality. musicianship should also be taught within the artform. even alot of sample-oriented producers cannot comprehend one sheet of music. we need to progress and not regress. we need more shepherds and less sheep. instead of taking it back and digging in the crates, how about moving forward and blazing new paths and shattering tradition

Being a musician myself I feel where you are coming from. But tell me how many producers are actualy writing the music to a song. It's mostly keyboard riffs that are simplistic, not as if they are writing the parts for the guitar, the bass, the drums and horns. That's building a song from the ground up, sitting at a keyboard hitting buttons is not being creative to me

 

[SlickestR]

Powerful post. i would much rather hear an instrumental from scratch where the producer includes his or her own ideas and harmonic progressions over a sample. i mean i have nothing against sampling at all as it pretty much is the foundation for hip hop and some of my fav hip hop producers (dilla, madlib) are the best at utilizing it. but being a musician myself, it is sometimes difficult to defend the musical aspect of hip hop while im conversing with my musician buddies when the purists themselves would like to revert back to borrowing ideas instead of invigoratingly creating new ones. and thats what we need in hip hop is originality. musicianship should also be taught within the artform. even alot of sample-oriented producers cannot comprehend one sheet of music. we need to progress and not regress. we need more shepherds and less sheep. instead of taking it back and digging in the crates, how about moving forward and blazing new paths and shattering tradition

thank you, at least there's some people out there that's not on the SAMPLING bandwagon... i have nothing against sampling either since it is one of many things that crafted the genre and made it into what it is today, but.. along with another person's great creation comes legal work, a lot of money involved and clearance because your using people's shit...

why not instead come up with your own shit from scratch? What the fuck is wrong with that? i mean a lot of motherfuckers that are used in SAMPLING didn't sample another person's shit... it was all live instrumentation along with a amazing singer and it was soulful, sweet and uplifting... all Jazz, blues, R&B and soul... and all of those sounds were made from scratch..

Being a musician myself I feel where you are coming from. But tell me how many producers are actualy writing the music to a song. It's mostly keyboard riffs that are simplistic, not as if they are writing the parts for the guitar, the bass, the drums and horns. That's building a song from the ground up, sitting at a keyboard hitting buttons is not being creative to me

Hip-Hop production as a whole is very simplistic (example: Sampling) , if you put too much in a hip-hop beat then it sounds bad... so it doesn't hold the same musical stature that other genres of music has, regrading how much instrumentation that you can pack into the production.

What Producers need to know i think from a musical aspect is more chord progressions, and learn to read notes... because really, hip-hop is more Percussion instruments than anything else...

 

[nyst8ofmin]

there are a couple very simple solutions....

1. turn of the radio & mtv (viacom)

2. stop listening to YMCMB

sampling never went anywhere. the demographics have changed but the ppl who sample still sample. do you listen to kev brown? ayatollah? primo? pete rock? odessey? m-phazes? just blaze? ski beatz? kanye?

no, your listening to drumma boy or bangledesh or whoever with their quantized 1/32 808 drums samples.

 

[Gen. Stasia]

Making your own Samples>>>> Saves money but still gives that same FEEL... I think its that Feel then the actual samples because TBH what else is there to sample? I cant even Listen to an Oldies station without relating it to a Hip Hop song.