we know you so called started rap...but

[brombonze]

nah im saying who really made an impact where worldwide started really buying albums from rap. and i dont think its em either but he has put it to another level within the last whatever years.

nobody said he didn't, but he wasn't the first, second or third to do it

 

[Mr.Audigier216]

my nigga i been liking your avi's lately...no homo but word gucci and jeezy worldwide...bwaaaaahahaaaahaaa your bugging

I'm makin niggas step they avi game up...me and darkone360...the AVI GANG...get under the umbrella or get drenched

 

[KplusK]

I think alot of krackers go overboard trying to validate themselves through Emenim, the krackers want desperately to be accepted, and act as if Emenim is a conduit for their own personal validation.

The Kracka fails to realize that RUN DMC were international stars in the 80's, and M.C. Hammer was an international star in the 90's.

Wu Tang Clan were highly popular in China & Japan and their international tours in the 90's are a reflection of that

[video=youtube;wDnPgYvVGlU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDnPgYvVGlU[/video]

^^^ Wu- Tang in Japan (1994)

The Kracka fails to realize that our culture was solidified globally before Emenim sold a single record.

Once the white-rapper-gimmick wore off the sales dropped accordingly he went from selling 11 mill to 2 mill, kracka's forget that.

They also have no explantion as to why rap-sales have decreased since "Marshall Mathers L.P"...his global success hasnt translated to better sales

for non-white rappers.

Krackers are just deluisional.

nigga you must not be reading and you know what i forgive you cause i dont read thru all the shit either... but i said WU like 4 pages ago my dude you cant be serious like i said i never said em so i dont know whether you just not reading rite or you just coming at me on some other shit

 

[icame4wo]

admit you lost you keep talking bout hits thats not what the thread was about. shit we all know a hit in the us mean nuttin so c'mon dude. we talking bout giving rap real meaning world wide ang i guess your just missing the point that all. you still cool though even though didnt like the craka comment cause im not...nigga.

who would you say put it on the map as far as making it world wide where you could hear it from la to ny to western hem to eastern hem? who you say?

first off this aint about losing or winning. we are having a discussion and there is no right or wrong answer here. i would assume selling 10 million records (please hammer dont hurt them) would have a greater gloabl impact than selling 500,000 records (walk this way). do you understand that? so even though run dmc may have had their first shoe, someone in europe may not have bought their first rap record until "cant touch this" came out. i may have passed on "walk this way" in canada but may have copped that "ice ice baby" record. 2X platnuim "wild thing" from LOC'ED AFTER DARK may have been the first rap record they played on the radio in Kenya. do you understand what im saying? the fact that these albums and singles were selling multi millions of records shows me that they had a further reach globally than some of the other artist/songs/albums named. even though the other ones may have been there first doesnt mean it was accepted by everyone or even known by everyone. i personally passed on run dmc back in the day for the fat boys and salt n pepa because i felt they weren't as fun as them. so it comes down to when it was accepted and by whom. the stats of run dmc doesnt show it was accepted worldwide, just that it was made visible worldwide. that doesnt mean it opened the door for it globally. thats why i said there is no right or wrong answer. however more people buying into would show higher level of acceptance globally wouldn't you say? but rock in the 80's was huge and run dmc being with a rock group isnt the same as them selling the same amount on their own. again,. i dont want to take away from them but that should be taken into consideration when we discuss this.

 

[hrap-120]

A stan is still a stan and your in denial Eminem barely is a head of Tupac in sales and Pac did it 10 years earlier then him and pac was far from the 1st. Now suck it up cupcake and be as much of a man as a stan can be and admit your objectivity was blinded by your love for Eminem and you are dishonestly answering the threadstarters question child...

ROFL, delusional Stans...Emenim was brilliant to create the song "Stan", he knows his stanbase better than anybody.

Well RUN DMC put hiphop on the map, which was the question posed by the T/S, that goes without saying, only a delusional Stan would deny.

The album raised rap music to a new level of popularity. It was the first hip-hop album certified diamond by the RIAA for sales of over ten million.[9] It remains one of the genre's all-time best-selling albums.[10] To date, the album has sold as many as 18 million units

^^18 Million copies sold of this album in (1990)

M.C. Hammer put the smash down further with a DIAMOND selling album called "Please Hammer dont hurt em".."Cant touc this" was a single...the album was an international hit also selling 11 million.

WU-Tang stormed Asia before any other rap acts were receiving major love......

...I was going to save Tupac for last...

 

[KplusK]

first off this aint about losing or winning. we are having a discussion and there is no right or wrong answer here. i would assume selling 10 million records (please hammer dont hurt them) would have a greater gloabl impact than selling 500,000 records (walk this way). do you understand that? so even though run dmc may have had their first shoe, someone in europe may not have bought their first rap record until "cant touch this" came out. i may have passed on "walk this way" in canada but may have copped that "ice ice baby" record. 2X platnuim "wild thing" from LOC'ED AFTER DARK may have been the first rap record they played on the radio in Kenya. do you understand what im saying? the fact that these albums and singles were selling multi millions of records shows me that they had a further reach globally than some of the other artist/songs/albums named. even though the other ones may have been there first doesnt mean it was accepted by everyone or even known by everyone. i personally passed on run dmc back in the day for the fat boys and salt n pepa because i felt they weren't as fun as them. so it comes down to when it was accepted and by whom. the stats of run dmc doesnt show it was accepted worldwide, just that it was made visible worldwide. that doesnt mean it opened the door for it globally. thats why i said there is no right or wrong answer. however more people buying into would show higher level of acceptance globally wouldn't you say? but rock in the 80's was huge and run dmc being with a rock group isnt the same as them selling the same amount on their own. again,. i dont want to take away from them but that should be taken into consideration when we discuss this.

ok i can dig it you rite and i cant dispute that fact cause thats what i was saying to a certain extent. one record that breaks worldwide doesnt make a reason for the whole genre to break thru some get it some don't. but ther were ALBUMS that broke WORLDWIDE like i said before THE WU. they was internationally known known and sold ALBUMS and im not sayint they was the only ones im just asking name more. This dude going off off one hit song and that not it i dont think.

 

[hrap-120]

first off this aint about losing or winning. we are having a discussion and there is no right or wrong answer here. i would assume selling 10 million records (please hammer dont hurt them) would have a greater gloabl impact than selling 500,000 records (walk this way). do you understand that? so even though run dmc may have had their first shoe, someone in europe may not have bought their first rap record until "cant touch this" came out. i may have passed on "walk this way" in canada but may have copped that "ice ice baby" record. 2X platnuim "wild thing" from LOC'ED AFTER DARK may have been the first rap record they played on the radio in Kenya. do you understand what im saying? the fact that these albums and singles were selling multi millions of records shows me that they had a further reach globally than some of the other artist/songs/albums named. even though the other ones may have been there first doesnt mean it was accepted by everyone or even known by everyone. i personally passed on run dmc back in the day for the fat boys and salt n pepa because i felt they weren't as fun as them. so it comes down to when it was accepted and by whom. the stats of run dmc doesnt show it was accepted worldwide, just that it was made visible worldwide. that doesnt mean it opened the door for it globally. thats why i said there is no right or wrong answer. however more people buying into would show higher level of acceptance globally wouldn't you say? but rock in the 80's was huge and run dmc being with a rock group isnt the same as them selling the same amount on their own. again,. i dont want to take away from them but that should be taken into consideration when we discuss this.

There is more to having Global Impact than just selling records, and when people catch up and realize that they can save themselves from having a headache.

 

[DaPrinciplez]

even though the other ones may have been there first doesnt mean it was accepted by everyone or even known by everyone. so it comes down to when it was accepted and by whom. the stats of run dmc doesnt show it was accepted worldwide, just that it was made visible worldwide. that doesnt mean it opened the door for it globally. thats why i said there is no right or wrong answer. however more people buying into would show higher level of acceptance globally wouldn't you say?

..........that what I'm sayin.

I don't know of a rapper who made Hip Hop as big as it got besides Eminem, 50 Cent and The South collectively.

They are the ones who made every single person worldwide who is part of some sort of society, even if they didn't listen to hip hop, know about rap, from the dancin to the clothes to the cars to the slang to everythin.....

Who did it before them?

When I think "world-wide" and "globally", I think "the majority of people across the world"......am I wrong in doing that and if I'm not? Am I wrong by sayin Eminem was the first?

 

[hrap-120]

nobody said he didn't, but he wasn't the first, second or third to do it

You know what it is, I could tell it was a korny-kracker subliminal-emeim-worship thread just by the title.

Look how the peckerwood says "We know YOU so called started rap"..see how he says "YOU", instead of "we".

Hip Hop sales are at an all-time low because people around the world think hiphop culture is pedophlia, homosexuality, incest, beastiality, and matricide...they dont hear the voice of hiphop culture, they hear the voice of a sick, depressed, junkie.

They think its a childish prank were men dress like woman and allow other men to place their genitals and anus near your face...grown men exposing their anus in public....

HipHop sales are at an all-time low.

 

[icame4wo]

..........that what I'm sayin.

I don't know of a rapper who made Hip Hop as big as it got besides Eminem, 50 Cent and The South collectively.

They are the ones who made every single person worldwide who is part of some sort of society, even if they didn't listen to hip hop, know about rap, from the dancin to the clothes to the cars to the slang to everythin.....

Who did it before them?

When I think "world-wide" and "globally", I think "the majority of people across the world"......am I wrong in doing that and if I'm not? Am I wrong by sayin Eminem was the first?

well i'm not outside of the US so i'll have to take your word for it. around that time (99' when sslp dropped) the internet really started poppin with napster and similar type technologies, so i could see albums coming out at that time being heard by more people in more places on earth. but none us could prove whether or not rap music was accepted in those parts of the world prior or not. to be honest only record labels could answer this question for certain. who was selling, where they were selling at and when they first started selling in those international markets. we can only speculate. i would say run dmc was the first to go global in all fairness.

 

[DaPrinciplez]

You know what it is, I could tell it was a korny-kracker subliminal-emeim-worship thread just by the title.

Look how the peckerwood says "We know YOU so called started rap"..see how he says "YOU", instead of "we".

Hip Hop sales are at an all-time low because people around the world think hiphop culture is pedophlia, homosexuality, incest, beastiality, and matricide...they dont hear the voice of hiphop culture, they hear the voice of a sick, depressed, junkie.

They think its a childish prank were men dress like woman and allow other men to place their genitals and anus near your face...grown men exposing their anus in public....

HipHop sales are at an all-time low.

....Did you really just blame Eminem for hip hop sales bein low?

Really?

You seem to be gettin a lil upset now....maybe we should just drop the conversation till your emotions aren't gettin the better of you bruh.

 

[Mr.Audigier216]

look...rather u count sales or lyrics...that white boy is in the top 5 dead or alive

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

who would you say put it on the map as far as making it world wide where you could hear it from la to ny to western hem to eastern hem? who you say?

..........that what I'm sayin.

I don't know of a rapper who made Hip Hop as big as it got besides Eminem, 50 Cent and The South collectively.

They are the ones who made every single person worldwide who is part of some sort of society, even if they didn't listen to hip hop, know about rap, from the dancin to the clothes to the cars to the slang to everythin.....

Who did it before them?

When I think "world-wide" and "globally", I think "the majority of people across the world"......am I wrong in doing that and if I'm not? Am I wrong by sayin Eminem was the first?

Yes your Wrong and so is the Kat you Quoted Stanley eminem is not even the 7th and he has the advantage of the internet that those who paved the way did not. World Wide Numbers have been posted for you and you still repeat like a broken record Eminem. It is kats like you and shadyteam with all the ignorant cult like devotion that make the rest of us believe Eminem is fucking up the minds of you brainwashed children...

 

[KplusK]

You know what it is, I could tell it was a korny-kracker subliminal-emeim-worship thread just by the title.

Look how the peckerwood says "We know YOU so called started rap"..see how he says "YOU", instead of "we".

Hip Hop sales are at an all-time low because people around the world think hiphop culture is pedophlia, homosexuality, incest, beastiality, and matricide...they dont hear the voice of hiphop culture, they hear the voice of a sick, depressed, junkie.

They think its a childish prank were men dress like woman and allow other men to place their genitals and anus near your face...grown men exposing their anus in public....

HipHop sales are at an all-time low.

dude your just another dude blaming shit on the white man how old are you i tell my brothers the same shit "get over it nigga" thats life first off. second if you read back in pages i said to YOU that i ment run dmc and 3 i said it wasnt em so your just posting just to talk how is ignorance percieved where your from let me know?

 

[georgia boi]

I'm gonna say Dr. Dre. Starting w/ NWA through The Chronic to Doggystyle to "California Love" to signing Eminem to 2001 to being instrumental in 50's early success. 2 Pac, The Fugees, and Diddy are also arguable.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

....Did you really just blame Eminem for hip hop sales bein low?

Really?

You seem to be gettin a lil upset now....maybe we should just drop the conversation till your emotions aren't gettin the better of you bruh.

dude your just another dude blaming shit on the white man how old are you i tell my brothers the same shit "get over it nigga" thats life first off. second if you read back in pages i said to YOU that i ment run dmc and 3 i said it wasnt em so your just posting just to talk how is ignorance percieved where your from let me know?

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[hrap-120]

look...rather u count sales or lyrics...that white boy is in the top 5 dead or alive

Coons like you are not qualified to speak on adult matters.

....Did you really just blame Eminem for hip hop sales bein low?

Really?

You seem to be gettin a lil upset now....maybe we should just drop the conversation till your emotions aren't gettin the better of you bruh.

If anybody is insane enough to act like Emenim made some major contribution by getting white people around the world to buy his album
I can surely point to fact that his popularity hasnt translated in record-sales for the rest of the industry.

dude your just another dude blaming shit on the white man how old are you i tell my brothers the same shit "get over it nigga" thats life first off. second if you read back in pages i said to YOU that i ment run dmc and 3 i said it wasnt em so your just posting just to talk how is ignorance percieved where your from let me know?

You are a serious weirdo...are you even from the United States??? I sense some detachment from reality, and grammatical kracker-speak that would lead me to believe you are from Finland or Croatia.

 

[KplusK]

[QUOTE

You are a serious weirdo...are you even from the United States??? I sense some detachment from reality, and grammatical kracker-speak that would lead me to believe you are from Finland or Croatia.[/QUOTE]

im not on here to be grammatically correct all i said was go back and read my threads and i see u didnt you gettin at me on some dumb shit with out even knowing what we are debating about so whatever i said what i had to say i dont argue on here so go head playboy do you but i would of thought how you sit here and try and sound so smart you would do a lil reasearch before you talk unlike us hicks rite lmao

 

[Mr.Audigier216]

Coons like you are not qualified to speak on adult matters.

If anybody is insane enough to act like Emenim made some major contribution by getting white people around the world to buy his album
I can surely point to fact that his popularity hasnt translated in record-sales for the rest of the industry.

You are a serious weirdo...are you even from the United States??? I sense some detachment from reality, and grammatical kracker-speak that would lead me to believe you are from Finland or Croatia.

hahahah nigga please

 

[DaPrinciplez]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I have no fuckin idea what he's trippin on.....it's like he can't see H-rap is directing his post's towards me or somethin??????????????????

I'm gonna say Dr. Dre. Starting w/ NWA through The Chronic to Doggystyle to "California Love" to signing Eminem to 2001 to being instrumental in 50's early success. 2 Pac, The Fugees, and Diddy are also arguable.

I was also thinkin Dre/Death Row Records......but in the end I settled for Eminem as my answer.

If anybody is insane enough to act like Emenim made some major contribution by getting white people around the world to buy his album

I can surely point to fact that his popularity hasnt translated in record-sales for the rest of the industry.

Not for the rest of the industry no, but for the other person I named as makin hip hop "global" and most accepted its ever been he did. (50 Cent).

Besides, I am one of the "insane" people who do see Eminem gettin the attention of the white race around the world for hip hop, as a major contribution towards it......maybe coz I'm white, maybe not.

I understand YOU would still love it to be a "black thing".....but it ain't and I don't really get why you wouldn't want it to be as big as it has since Eminem came onto the scene, you can't say it hasn't been bigger than ever since he came out neither by pointin out record sales coz records sales are down throughout the entire industry, not just this rap music we all love.

It's not like white people have destroyed the hip hop culture, so I just dont get why you like to make out as if Eminem and white peoples support of hip hop is a bad thing to hip hop?