Was Pac Supposed to be the Almighty Ruler of Rap when he was alive?

[icame4wo]

when was the original matw recorded because unless big was stealing stuff in 93 then i doubt it.

i'm going to ignore that question just like you ignore your modding responsibilities.

 

[5th Letter]

i'm going to ignore that question just like you ignore your modding responsibilities.

that means you were talking out your ass. gotcha

 

[south4life]

tupac talked about biggie rappin about his life and taking material from the first version of me against the world and using it. if thats true it would explain biggie's fantasy rhymes. what else does his old lady say about him in the book?

She was talking about his father having a whole other family when he got her pregnant with Biggie.
The book is called "Biggie: Voletta Wallace Remembers Her Son, Christopher Wallace, aka Notorious B.I.G."
It's alot of stuff she talks about, u got to read it.

 

[icame4wo]

thanks south4life

that means you were talking out your ass. gotcha

smh @ this dead beat mod wanting to argue with me over what his idol said with all these comments waiting to be approved!

ok mr. intelligent i'll answer you. clearly the answer is matw the first one was going to drop before '95.

 

[Focal Point]

jayz, wayne and em are still alive....they still put out albums, they still do interviews, make videos etc

i expect people to talk about artists who are alive,

however someone who has been dead 14 years, when niggas had pagers, big brick sized cell phones and wore karl kani..u'd think dudes wud just move on and talk about somebody else....theres many other dead rappers, many other retired rappers, yet all niggas talk about is pac 90% of the time over all them dudes...

true although it's the Pac stans who bring him up and put him on MLK and Malcolm X and Obama and Marcus Garvey and such level in the eyes of black folks and tell cats they don't know shit if they disagree

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

when was the original matw recorded because unless big was stealing stuff in 93 then i doubt it.

The original MATW was In production in 93 and was for the most part Scrapped due to many issues legal and otherwise, Biggie release His debut in Septmember of 94 the majority of his album was recorded in 94...

 

[thesynthesis]

true although it's the Pac stans who bring him up and put him on MLK and Malcolm X and Obama and Marcus Garvey and such level in the eyes of black folks and tell cats they don't know shit if they disagree

but just look at the title of this thread, nigga really let pac fans get to him ?

if a nigga feels pac is his mlk or malcom x, nothing wrong with that, if they can find something positive in pacs music enough to inspire them, thats great.

certain ivnvduals have the gift to touch people

 

[icame4wo]

The original MATW was In production in 93 and was for the most part Scrapped due to many issues legal and otherwise, Biggie release His debut in Septmember of 94 the majority of his album was recorded in 94...

was r u still down suppose to be the original matw?

 

[5th Letter]

thanks south4life

smh @ this dead beat mod wanting to argue with me over what his idol said with all these comments waiting to be approved!

ok mr. intelligent i'll answer you. clearly the answer is matw the first one was going to drop before '95.

The original MATW was In production in 93 and was for the most part Scrapped due to many issues legal and otherwise, Biggie release His debut in Septmember of 94 the majority of his album was recorded in 94...

i never knew about legal issues but a lot of rtd was recorded in 93 before big was signed to bad boy. saying he stole material is a reach imo.

 

[thecomebacklegend]

these NYC crabs r just some bitter niggas cause makaveli the don dropped a bomb on them back n 96 and none of their rappers said shit

 

[thesynthesis]

when was the original matw recorded because unless big was stealing stuff in 93 then i doubt it.

93,

around and before the time Pac rolled with Biggy

One thing i got from Pac he was never a liar, nigga told it as it is, right to the point of saying his ball got shot off .

Stealing is very common in the industry, Pac made a mistake of lettin Biggy know the concept of his album (which was inspired by the getto boyz) and lettin BIG hear songs off the record...Biggy took the idea and ran with it.

Why would Biggy do this? well he needed a idea for an album and his mentor who had already had success was on to something, so why not just borrow it?

Biggy was a sneaky dude, you only have to hear his music....however it was Pacs fault for trusting him...

 

[5th Letter]

93,

around and before the time Pac rolled with Biggy

One thing i got from Pac he was never a liar, nigga told it as it is, right to the point of saying his ball got shot off .

Stealing is very common in the industry, Pac made a mistake of lettin Biggy know the concept of his album (which was inspired by the getto boyz) and lettin BIG hear songs off the record...Biggy took the idea and ran with it.

Why would Biggy do this? well he needed a idea for an album and his mentor who had already had success was on to something, so why not just borrow it?

Biggy was a sneaky dude, you only have to hear his music....however it was Pacs fault for trusting him...

link ?

 

[thesynthesis]

link ?

you gotta study up, listen to pac interviews, there a trillion, read material, its all out there

there aint one link, this shhit is so olddddddddd

pac always maintained on various interviews he had to rewrite a new album just cuz his and bigs album sounded like the same record and it'd look like he was following/swag jackin big

 

[5th Letter]

you gotta study up, listen to pac interviews, there a trillion, read material, its all out there

there aint one link, this shhit is so olddddddddd

pac always maintained on various interviews he had to rewrite a new album just cuz his and bigs album sounded like the same record and it'd look like he was following/swag jackin big

except there were songs recorded before he started hanging with pac. so what songs did big bite suicidal thoughts? everyday struggle? i mean give me an idea of the exact record he bit.

 

[Focal Point]

but just look at the title of this thread, nigga really let pac fans get to him ?

if a nigga feels pac is his mlk or malcom x, nothing wrong with that, if they can find something positive in pacs music enough to inspire them, thats great.

certain ivnvduals have the gift to touch people

true but hence what I said about the part of not agreeing... they get offended and think individuals or groups are nuts because they don't agree. Like saying he'd of change politics and the such... just because a lot ppl feel you, don't mean you'll make a great politician

 

[thecomebacklegend]

all the NYC lames are hating and bitch ass north NJ crabs that follow NYC

niggas still mad lol

 

[mawkdawg]

you's a stupid mothafucka and you don't even see it... get a book you fucktard

learn about politics you dick, niggas fall in love with images... ol romanticism ass nigga

you's a stupid mothafucka and you don't even see it... get a book you fucktard

--LOOK HERE BRUH IM NOT ABOUT TO GO BACK N FORTH WITH U ON THIS I STATED MY OPINION I DIDNT ASK 4 YOURS & MOST LIKELY WOULDNT CARE WHAT SOMEBODY WITH "FUCKTARD" IN THEIR VOCABULARY THOUGHT. 2ND I HAVE PLENTY BOOKS, DO A LOT OF READING WHEN I HAVE TIME, AM VERY WELL VERSED & HAVE BOOK SMARTS BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY STREET SMARTS

learn about politics you dick, niggas fall in love with images... ol romanticism ass nigga--

AS FAR AS THIS STATEMENT I KNOW ABOUT POLITICS HOMEBOY WHICH YOU LEARN BY BEING INVOLVED MORE THAN YOU DO FROM BOOKS SMART GUY & I FOR 1 DONT FALL IN LOVE WITH IMAGES I DO HOWEVER SUPPORT IDEAS & MESSAGES THAT COINCIDE WITH MY OWN BELIEFS.. LASTLY SINCE I ALREADY STATED THAT I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE HEED & NOT RESPOND BECAUSE IT WONT GARNER A RESPONSE & WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME, CAUSE I KNOW ITS PROBABLY THE HIGH POINT OF YOUR DAY WHEN YOURE ON THE NET "PWNING" PEOPLE BUT IM A REAL CAT THAT DO REAL THINGS LIL HOMEY SO TAKE THAT ADVICE...

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

i never knew about legal issues but a lot of rtd was recorded in 93 before big was signed to bad boy. saying he stole material is a reach imo.

From what I have read and heard only a couple of Biggies Songs were recorded while at Uptown the majority of the album was recorded in 94 with the formation of Bad Boy. Stole material is a reach but topic anmd themes borrowed would be more accurate, that and Puffy was able to get Sampless cleared for Biggie that pac was unable to secure...

 

[Focal Point]

you's a stupid mothafucka and you don't even see it... get a book you fucktard

--LOOK HERE BRUH IM NOT ABOUT TO GO BACK N FORTH WITH U ON THIS I STATED MY OPINION I DIDNT ASK 4 YOURS & MOST LIKELY WOULDNT CARE WHAT SOMEBODY WITH "FUCKTARD" IN THEIR VOCABULARY THOUGHT. 2ND I HAVE PLENTY BOOKS, DO A LOT OF READING WHEN I HAVE TIME, AM VERY WELL VERSED & HAVE BOOK SMARTS BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY STREET SMARTS

learn about politics you dick, niggas fall in love with images... ol romanticism ass nigga--

AS FAR AS THIS STATEMENT I KNOW ABOUT POLITICS HOMEBOY WHICH YOU LEARN BY BEING INVOLVED MORE THAN YOU DO FROM BOOKS SMART GUY & I FOR 1 DONT FALL IN LOVE WITH IMAGES I DO HOWEVER SUPPORT IDEAS & MESSAGES THAT COINCIDE WITH MY OWN BELIEFS.. LASTLY SINCE I ALREADY STATED THAT I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE HEED & NOT RESPOND BECAUSE IT WONT GARNER A RESPONSE & WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME, CAUSE I KNOW ITS PROBABLY THE HIGH POINT OF YOUR DAY WHEN YOURE ON THE NET "PWNING" PEOPLE BUT IM A REAL CAT THAT DO REAL THINGS LIL HOMEY SO TAKE THAT ADVICE...

If you had street smarts and book smarts you'd realize it takes more than popularity to do things in politics and lmao at being real... what you do that's real? What makes you real??? Like I said understand the politics of politics and you'll come to understand your fantasy is just that. Peace young'n

 

[rapmastermind]

From what I have read and heard only a couple of Biggies Songs were recorded while at Uptown the majority of the album was recorded in 94 with the formation of Bad Boy. Stole material is a reach but topic anmd themes borrowed would be more accurate, that and Puffy was able to get Sampless cleared for Biggie that pac was unable to secure...

Almost half of "Ready To Die" was recorded in 93' while Biggie was on Uptown. Pac was reaching when he said Biggie stole his idea cause in 93, Pac wasn't even recording "Me against the World" yet. He just released his 2nd album and he was working on the "Thug Life" album. Most of the songs from "Ready To Die" that was recorded in 94 were the most commerical songs. Most of the depressing and Death songs like "Ready To Die, Things Dun Changed etc" were recorded in 93 well before Biggie and Pac were even rolling like that. Again Pac was suspose to be on the "Ready To Die" album but the song they did didn't make the final cut.

Biggie never copied any concept from Pac. It's sad people still try to say it when it's know knowledge Biggie was recording "Ready To Die" in 1993 before him and Pac were even tight like that. I never understood why Pac would say "Biggie stole my whole album". I mean he was so upset with Biggie, I guess he just started making up stuff. How was Biggie stealing concepts when he was recording the album 1st? The song "Ready To Die" was recorded in 93 and Puffy said in the XXL making of "Ready To Die" that was the 1st song recorded for the album so him and Biggie agreed that should be the title instead of "Teflon Don" cough, cough Rick Ross cough, cough.