Was Pac Supposed to be the Almighty Ruler of Rap when he was alive?

[a_list]

lol@ comparin pac wit da fugeez ya da DELUSIONAL STAN!

lol at u...lauryn wouldve rapped circles around mr enemy hennessey......

 

[bankrupt baller]

ptown no disrespect but how old was u when pac died??? anybody wit common sense of KNOWLEDGE OF HIPHOP knew 2pac was a DON n 96 & was about 2 change da rap game & tupac aint need no white boy like that house nigga cuuuurly CHEATIN 2 sell that much!...therr was no rapper droppin a double disk cd sellin 5 mill n 2monthz like pac...not only did tupacz rootz wit da BLK PANTHERZ make him special but he was also BICOASTAL meanin he was bringin da east & west 2gether cuz pac was like a BRIDGE cuz he had heavy tiez on both coast like no other rapper!

gee's best comment ever^

 

[bankrupt baller]

lol at u...lauryn wouldve rapped circles around mr enemy hennessey......

ah....my favorite pac line......thanks for the drop

 

[P. Town]

ptown no disrespect but how old was u when pac died??? anybody wit common sense of KNOWLEDGE OF HIPHOP knew 2pac was a DON n 96 & was about 2 change da rap game & tupac aint need no white boy like that house nigga cuuuurly CHEATIN 2 sell that much!...therr was no rapper droppin a double disk cd sellin 5 mill n 2monthz like pac...not only did tupacz rootz wit da BLK PANTHERZ make him special but he was also BICOASTAL meanin he was bringin da east & west 2gether cuz pac was like a BRIDGE cuz he had heavy tiez on both coast like no other rapper!

My point was that the Pac stans treat him like if he would have not gotten killed he would be the only rapper there was on a superstar level

 

[gee757]

gee's best comment ever^

lol

My point was that the Pac stans treat him like if he would have not gotten killed he would be the only rapper there was on a superstar level

well sellz wouldve dun all da talkin if 2pac was still alive imean people would really c da difference between pac & big & them...that DEATHROWEAST/1NATION shit pac was gonna start was really about 2 turn da rap game up side down pac & nas on a trak n 96 wouldve shut shit down...

 

[J. Rob]

There must be a lot 90s babies in this thread acting like they were old enough to remember what was going on in the mid 90s. Real talk....if you were born after like '87, you really can't speak on this shit at all (and that's being genrous....even those of us who were born between '83 and '87 barely understood what was going on at the time).

I'm only 24, and I was only 10 when Pac died...but even I can remember that there were other rappers doing it big in 1995 and 1996. Yes, Pac was the most popular rapper during that time, but lets not act like he shut EVERYBODY ELSE down. You also had Biggie, Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, The Fugees, LL Cool J, and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. They may not have been as popular as Pac, but they were definitely getting their shine

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Your being way too hard on Suge the Politics of the rap game was going through a Dynamic Change and the seat of Power in regards to the Mainstream and Music Industry was in Flux. The West Coast 1st with hammer then With Gangsta Rap had taken over the Main Stream pop Market a seat that traditionally has Been Held By New York. Interscope a then WestCoast Label was Challenging and Beating its competitiors because of Pac and Deathrow and that was where the real Eastcoast Westcoast war was. Deathrow and all of its west coast affiliates ended Up more of a scapegoat and sacrificial Peace Offering to Guarantee Jimmy's Seat in The grand Scheme of Shit with the rest of the EastCoast record Heads...

Not alot of neutral Ground in this thread you Have The Stans Of Pac and then the Biggie/Jigga NYC Stanbase all pushing the envelope to extremes. It is is Interesting to note How Geographic Location and age sets a standard for each of these Groups and their Arguments. I Quote 2 of the more level Head HipHop fans at least as far as the course of the quote chain was concerned...

pac had too much of a load to carry. he was pro-black, but he also had to be the voice because he came after, and just after, "THE MOVEMENT"

i only read the first post but imo pac ran the rap game after he got out until he died.

Where did I say that Pac wasn't known when his album came out? I said you can say that Jay had more of a buzz before RD drop than 2pac before 2pacalypse Now did.

You need to answer your own question (" so whats the arguement here??") because I don't know what the rest of what you wrote had anything to do with what I said.

And also 2pacalypse Now did go gold at that time. With Shock G being the biggest name on the album.

lol at these jigga warriors makin stupid ridiculous arguments....while pac fans just say look at influence/legacy/numbers.

Im a Pac fan to the death, but dont yall realize Pac was trying to unify hip-hop before he died w/Death Row East + he was fucking w/Face & niggas from the South. The nigga just went at niggas who talked shit or he felt disrespected him. Furthermore at that time Pac was on top at the time of his death that nigga had a crazy following worldwide. I just think when him & Big died it was kinda like when the respected, intelligent mob boss or leader of a gang dies then everybody fighting for the top spot but the new leader dont respect the old values hence niggas get crazier & start killin 4 dumb shit & fighting amongst each other. But Pac wouldve most likely been on some other shit like politics cuz he really cared about people; black, white, asian whatever...

Yeah thats what I said... What having a young black male who understood our generation, well traveled, dealt with poverty, struggle, & adversity first hand, natural leader, outspoken & intelligent who actually gave a fuck about what we do as opposed to>>>> a mother fucker in a suit smiling in ya face while blatantly lying to it, good on talking(bullshitting) but short on delivering, bashing his opponent by name calling like 5 year olds cuz they only care about $$dollars$$, Democrat-Rebublican=Same fucking team clown////Yeah that would make u shake ya head rite clown azz nigga....Get The Fuck Outta Here...

ptown no disrespect but how old was u when pac died??? anybody wit common sense of KNOWLEDGE OF HIPHOP knew 2pac was a DON n 96 & was about 2 change da rap game & tupac aint need no white boy like that house nigga cuuuurly CHEATIN 2 sell that much!...therr was no rapper droppin a double disk cd sellin 5 mill n 2monthz like pac...not only did tupacz rootz wit da BLK PANTHERZ make him special but he was also BICOASTAL meanin he was bringin da east & west 2gether cuz pac was like a BRIDGE cuz he had heavy tiez on both coast like no other rapper!

gee's best comment ever^

lol

well sellz wouldve dun all da talkin if 2pac was still alive imean people would really c da difference between pac & big & them...that DEATHROWEAST/1NATION shit pac was gonna start was really about 2 turn da rap game up side down pac & nas on a trak n 96 wouldve shut shit down...

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[Focal Point]

Yeah thats what I said... What having a young black male who understood our generation, well traveled, dealt with poverty, struggle, & adversity first hand, natural leader, outspoken & intelligent who actually gave a fuck about what we do as opposed to>>>> a mother fucker in a suit smiling in ya face while blatantly lying to it, good on talking(bullshitting) but short on delivering, bashing his opponent by name calling like 5 year olds cuz they only care about $$dollars$$, Democrat-Rebublican=Same fucking team clown////Yeah that would make u shake ya head rite clown azz nigga....Get The Fuck Outta Here...

you's a stupid mothafucka and you don't even see it... get a book you fucktard, learn about politics you dick, niggas fall in love with images... ol romanticism ass nigga

 

[ibedamned]

had him shook to do what?

niggas was dissin pac on reasonable doubt

wasn't nobody scared of that nigga

what was he gon do?

shoot another 1 of his balls off?

get robbed again?

outside of that off duty cop shooting pac was a victim

I damn near spit my kool aid off, damn, that was funny. But I know you gone have some nigga come in here talkin bout how pac had all the gang members in the world on lock.

 

[thesynthesis]

some niggas will sit here and wonder why pac is considered the greatest of all time by the majority and all that extra shit

they'll moan and cry and bring up nonsense to discredit the young legend.

niggas need just accept the facts and go worry about someone else, pac been dead 14 years yet every damn day there is a pac thread on here and just about every other hip hop forum

theres many rappers who are alive right now that u could talk about yet u choose to talk about a nigga who's been dead nearly 2 decades, which basically tells me pac is the GOAT's

 

[Focal Point]

some niggas will sit here and wonder why pac is considered the greatest of all time by the majority and all that extra shit

they'll moan and cry and bring up nonsense to discredit the young legend of hip hop.

niggas need just accept the facts and go worry about someone else, pac been dead 14 years yet every damn day there is a pac thread on here and just about every other hip hop forum

theres many rappers who are alive right now that u could talk about yet u choose to talk about a nigga who's been dead nearly 2 decades, which basically tells me pac is one of the GOAT's

FIXED good sir, and the same thing happens with Jay-Z, Wayne, Em, etc. Everything is subjective

 

[thesynthesis]

FIXED good sir, and the same thing happens with Jay-Z, Wayne, Em, etc. Everything is subjective

jayz, wayne and em are still alive....they still put out albums, they still do interviews, make videos etc

i expect people to talk about artists who are alive,

however someone who has been dead 14 years, when niggas had pagers, big brick sized cell phones and wore karl kani..u'd think dudes wud just move on and talk about somebody else....theres many other dead rappers, many other retired rappers, yet all niggas talk about is pac 90% of the time over all them dudes...

 

[ibedamned]

This thread is hillarious.

 

[emceemurda]

If pac was alive he would not be in rap right now..and lauryn hill is great but look at her now she does not have the mental strength to continue.. and shes more of a singer then a rapper. No hate for lauryn she is a living legend.. Pac's music is good because It still relates to the youth to even today's generation which shows how geniune he was. Also he rapped like w.e he was feeling so you get a different feeling. I think he was raps first superstar. He is basically the mj of rap. 2pac does not even need the rap genre. Theres people who don't like rap that will have a 2pac single in there ipod. 2pac is the goat in a sense He is the representation of the best and worst of the genre and the end result of the lifestyle he portrayed in his music. In terms of everything else... this is all subjective I didn't know who he was at that time.. I was a a mase fan. Didn't hear about him till I was older. Pac's music is spiritual in a sense you have to be in a certain awarness to it. he makes you feel whatever he is saying basically.

" I don't think im the best, I think im the realesst nigga out there" - 2pac

And who ever said rap is better now 2pac is dead should turn on bet and repent!

 

[south4life]

so you dont recall the song starting off with him tryin to hustle to feed his daughter. biggie wasnt spoiled ... he was just an only child ... its not like his moms was rich or something. and what the hell does the honor roll have to do with anything .... the drug dealer alpo was also an honor roll student when he lived with his foster parents. everythings not just cut and dry like you trying to make it sound

biggie didnt even finish school ... so obviously he went thru hard times when he first had his daughter

biggie rarely talks about his childhood ever in his songs ... what the hell are talking about

biggie isnt even my favorite rapper but got damn at least call it like it is LOL

Bruh Biggie always talked about his childhood.

Honor Roll does mean something, he was in a catholic school, his mother was a teacher, Biggie got hurt on the city bus when he was young, his mom sued them and got money, she put that up for college for him, the nigga didn't have to be a drug dealer, he choose that route because he wanted to be like D-Roc, that's bullshit that he was struggling, when the nigga own momma said Biggie got whatever he wanted, he didn't need anything.

Alpo was a different story, the nigga was an educated nut, he was smart but crazy.

Biggie was smart but he choose to be a drug dealer, he choose to drop out, he didn't have too.

That's bullshit, just because he had a baby, he had to become a drug dealer, is that what u saying?

Cause if that's what u saying then u just as dumb as he was, go get a god damn job and take care of your baby.

I went to school with dudes that had babies and they went and got a job, while still doing their school work and playing sports.

That's not an excuse, Biggie just wanted to be a drug dealer to fit in.

Y'all niggas crack me up on here, taking what I say and making it like I'm talking about u, NIGGA IS YOUR NAME BIGGIE?!

 

[MR.CJ]

Bruh Biggie always talked about his childhood.

Honor Roll does mean something, he was in a catholic school, his mother was a teacher, Biggie got hurt on the city bus when he was young, his mom sued them and got money, she put that up for college for him, the nigga didn't have to be a drug dealer, he choose that route because he wanted to be like D-Roc, that's bullshit that he was struggling, when the nigga own momma said Biggie got whatever he wanted, he didn't need anything.

Alpo was a different story, the nigga was an educated nut, he was smart but crazy.

Biggie was smart but he choose to be a drug dealer, he choose to drop out, he didn't have too.

That's bullshit, just because he had a baby, he had to become a drug dealer, is that what u saying?

Cause if that's what u saying then u just as dumb as he was, go get a god damn job and take care of your baby.

I went to school with dudes that had babies and they went and got a job, while still doing their school work and playing sports.

That's not an excuse, Biggie just wanted to be a drug dealer to fit in.

Y'all niggas crack me up on here, taking what I say and making it like I'm talking about u, NIGGA IS YOUR NAME BIGGIE?!

What happen to biggie and is d-roc his cousin?

 

[south4life]

What happen to biggie and is d-roc his cousin?

His mom wrote a book and told the truth about him growing up, he fell on the bus, I don't know what really happen cause she didn't go in depth with it but, she sued and got a big chunk of money, she put that up for Biggie's college tuition. D-Roc was the dude he hung with growing up.
Nigga's on here getting mad at me for telling the truth that Biggie's own mother wrote!

 

[MR.CJ]

His mom wrote a book and told the truth about him growing up, he fell on the bus, I don't know what really happen cause she didn't go in depth with it but, she sued and got a big chunk of money, she put that up for Biggie's college tuition. D-Roc was the dude he hung with growing up.

Nigga's on here getting mad at me for telling the truth that Biggie's own mother wrote!

u stay dropping knowledge

 

[icame4wo]

Bruh Biggie always talked about his childhood.
Honor Roll does mean something, he was in a catholic school, his mother was a teacher, Biggie got hurt on the city bus when he was young, his mom sued them and got money, she put that up for college for him, the nigga didn't have to be a drug dealer, he choose that route because he wanted to be like D-Roc, that's bullshit that he was struggling, when the nigga own momma said Biggie got whatever he wanted, he didn't need anything.
Alpo was a different story, the nigga was an educated nut, he was smart but crazy.
Biggie was smart but he choose to be a drug dealer, he choose to drop out, he didn't have too.
That's bullshit, just because he had a baby, he had to become a drug dealer, is that what u saying?
Cause if that's what u saying then u just as dumb as he was, go get a god damn job and take care of your baby.
I went to school with dudes that had babies and they went and got a job, while still doing their school work and playing sports.
That's not an excuse, Biggie just wanted to be a drug dealer to fit in.
Y'all niggas crack me up on here, taking what I say and making it like I'm talking about u, NIGGA IS YOUR NAME BIGGIE?!

tupac talked about biggie rappin about his life and taking material from the first version of me against the world and using it. if thats true it would explain biggie's fantasy rhymes. what else does his old lady say about him in the book?

 

[5th Letter]

tupac talked about biggie rappin about his life and taking material from the first version of me against the world and using it. if thats true it would explain biggie's fantasy rhymes. what else does his old lady say about him in the book?

when was the original matw recorded because unless big was stealing stuff in 93 then i doubt it.