Was Pac Supposed to be the Almighty Ruler of Rap when he was alive?

[5th Letter]

you mean in this thread right?

lol at that pic. i'm not trying to discredit youngsters in hip hop though

 

[thesynthesis]

Pimpn, Snoop Dogg was heavily featured on the Chronic album before doggystyle was released. Who's not going platinum w/ the chronic cosign, deep cover track, and gin n juice single BEFORE the 1st album was dropped. Snoop was a terrible example for you to post. Snoop was WELL KNOWN before his album dropped. He wasn't local like Pac and Jigga. Cali was the dominent region of hip hop.( I also mentioned this in the 5th sentence of my post you quoted). And as far as Dre, his debut solo album was after NWA after he wasn't local anymore. I just don't understand how you are a physic and KNOW exactly what the future was goin hold with all the artist in the industry. Tupac was on tour with Master P before he died. Outkast and Goodie Mob was out. Therefor the south would still be around. No one man can controle the industry.

real good knowledge here

Pac actually fucked with the south, niggas forget one of pacs idols was Scarface and the Gettoboyz, face also put him up on UKG

 

[Ishi]

u mad??

kanye is todays 2pac

u dont see jay z lame azz speaking the truth in his interviews

ask em who goat

all of em say pac

pac started this

yall east coast dudes wack as hell

Hop off that East and West coast beefish talk everyone knows East coast niggas run yall niggas ask Russel Simmons... coming from a cat from Texas

 

[bull6599]

I find the comparison b/w Pac & Jay concerning their debut album funny b/c shit is kind of a double standard.

1.) RD is dubbed a failure b/c it had BIG & Foxy featured on the album and it had a hit single but only went gold much like Pac's debut album. It was said that both were only local/regional artist @ the time but Jay was the more known of two. I guess were going to act like The Vice President of the United States Dan Quayle didnt condemn Pac's debut album as "havin no place in our society" on nat'l TV and even went as far as to have Time Warner, Interscopes parent company, drop the label for releasing the album. How much more publicity can u get on a national level.

2.) It was said RD shulda sold more b/c it's Jay's best album. Isnt this the same forum that always sayin record sales dont mean shit? By logic The 2 albums that are widely perceived to be his best (MATW & Makaveli) arent his best album b/c they arebnt his highest selling. That would mean AEOM is his best whiel most ppl rank that as his 3rd best album @ best.

I love Pac's music. Dude is top 5 DOA IMO & he def deserving of the GOAT title if u so choose to bestow it upon him. His spot in history is solidified...but w/ that said some niggas just take their love for Pac too goddamn far!!!

 

[Sovo_Nah]

pac had too much of a load to carry. he was pro-black, but he also had to be the voice because he came after, and just after, "THE MOVEMENT"

 

[Focal Point]

I find the comparison b/w Pac & Jay concerning their debut album funny b/c shit is kind of a double standard.

1.) RD is dubbed a failure b/c it had BIG & Foxy featured on the album and it had a hit single but only went gold much like Pac's debut album. It was said that both were only local/regional artist @ the time but Jay was the more known of two. I guess were going to act like The Vice President of the United States Dan Quayle didnt condemn Pac's debut album as "havin no place in our society" on nat'l TV and even went as far as to have Time Warner, Interscopes parent company, drop the label for releasing the album. How much more publicity can u get on a national level.

2.) It was said RD shulda sold more b/c it's Jay's best album. Isnt this the same forum that always sayin record sales dont mean shit? By logic The 2 albums that are widely perceived to be his best (MATW & Makaveli) arent his best album b/c they arebnt his highest selling. That would mean AEOM is his best whiel most ppl rank that as his 3rd best album @ best.

I love Pac's music. Dude is top 5 DOA IMO & he def deserving of the GOAT title if u so choose to bestow it upon him. His spot in history is solidified...but w/ that said some niggas just take their love for Pac too goddamn far!!!

*applauds this knowledge*

 

[icame4wo]

i only read the first post but imo pac ran the rap game after he got out until he died.

 

[bull6599]

i only read the first post but imo pac ran the rap game after he got out until he died.

Of course he did...nobody w/ common sense can deny that. He was the hottest artist on the planet period!!! W/ that said some niggas act like u cant buy more than 1 album or like more than 1 artist @ a time.

 

[lion_heart]

actually thats false ... pac was well known when his album dropped ... but either way ... pac didnt even go gold on his first album ... jay had his features and did ... so whats the arguement here?? both albums would have sold about the same amount if jay didnt have the features

Where did I say that Pac wasn't known when his album came out? I said you can say that Jay had more of a buzz before RD drop than 2pac before 2pacalypse Now did.

You need to answer your own question (" so whats the arguement here??") because I don't know what the rest of what you wrote had anything to do with what I said.

And also 2pacalypse Now did go gold at that time. With Shock G being the biggest name on the album.

 

[Focal Point]

Of course he did...nobody w/ common sense can deny that. He was the hottest hip hop artist on the planet period!!! W/ that said some niggas act like u cant buy more than 1 album or like more than 1 artist @ a time.

there ya go... FIXED:

 

[Meet The Sniper]

pac had too much of a load to carry. he was pro-black, but he also had to be the voice because he came after, and just after, "THE MOVEMENT"

I thought the old white men was bad making excuses for Farve. You niggas is gay for Pac.

 

[25centsandwich]

lol at these jigga warriors makin stupid ridiculous arguments....while pac fans just say look at influence/legacy/numbers.

 

[master_mentor]

Whats lately with the many dickriding Tupac threads? Dude was great, but he is no way the almighty ruler or rap or GOAT. And to the comparisons Jigga vs. Pac...we dont have to discuss that, Shakur is miles ahead of him!

 

[mawkdawg]

Im a Pac fan to the death, but dont yall realize Pac was trying to unify hip-hop before he died w/Death Row East + he was fucking w/Face & niggas from the South. The nigga just went at niggas who talked shit or he felt disrespected him. Furthermore at that time Pac was on top at the time of his death that nigga had a crazy following worldwide. I just think when him & Big died it was kinda like when the respected, intelligent mob boss or leader of a gang dies then everybody fighting for the top spot but the new leader dont respect the old values hence niggas get crazier & start killin 4 dumb shit & fighting amongst each other. But Pac wouldve most likely been on some other shit like politics cuz he really cared about people; black, white, asian whatever...

 

[Focal Point]

lol at these jigga warriors makin stupid ridiculous arguments....while pac fans just say look at influence/legacy/numbers.

so it's jigga warriors, but in regards to Pac, some of you jokers are only fans huh? Yeah... I see what you're saying

 

[Focal Point]

Im a Pac fan to the death, but dont yall realize Pac was trying to unify hip-hop before he died w/Death Row East + he was fucking w/Face & niggas from the South. The nigga just went at niggas who talked shit or he felt disrespected him. Furthermore at that time Pac was on top at the time of his death that nigga had a crazy following worldwide. I just think when him & Big died it was kinda like when the respected, intelligent mob boss or leader of a gang dies then everybody fighting for the top spot but the new leader dont respect the old values hence niggas get crazier & start killin 4 dumb shit & fighting amongst each other. But Pac wouldve most likely been on some other shit like politics cuz he really cared about people; black, white, asian whatever...

*smh* Yeah Pac for Politics

 

[mawkdawg]

*smh* Yeah Pac for Politics

Yeah thats what I said... What having a young black male who understood our generation, well traveled, dealt with poverty, struggle, & adversity first hand, natural leader, outspoken & intelligent who actually gave a fuck about what we do as opposed to>>>> a mother fucker in a suit smiling in ya face while blatantly lying to it, good on talking(bullshitting) but short on delivering, bashing his opponent by name calling like 5 year olds cuz they only care about $$dollars$$, Democrat-Rebublican=Same fucking team clown////Yeah that would make u shake ya head rite clown azz nigga....Get The Fuck Outta Here...

 

[gee757]

I mean niggas always down other rappers success with a comment about Pac...

"Uh, if Pac was alive, Jay-Z would not have 11 platinum albums"

"If Pac was alive, there would be no such and such"

"Pac would not allow Eminem to be successful"

Ya'll niggas act like nothin in the rap game was done unless Pac put his stamp on it

I guess the nigga could have brought our troops back home too huh?

ptown no disrespect but how old was u when pac died??? anybody wit common sense of KNOWLEDGE OF HIPHOP knew 2pac was a DON n 96 & was about 2 change da rap game & tupac aint need no white boy like that house nigga cuuuurly CHEATIN 2 sell that much!...therr was no rapper droppin a double disk cd sellin 5 mill n 2monthz like pac...not only did tupacz rootz wit da BLK PANTHERZ make him special but he was also BICOASTAL meanin he was bringin da east & west 2gether cuz pac was like a BRIDGE cuz he had heavy tiez on both coast like no other rapper!

 

[a_list]

lol these stans are delusional.....the fugees moved more than pac in 96....yes he was one of the most popular cats but c'mon he wont shutting nobody down.....

 

[gee757]

lol these stans are delusional.....the fugees moved more than pac in 96....yes he was one of the most popular cats but c'mon he wont shutting nobody down.....

lol@ comparin pac wit da fugeez ya da DELUSIONAL STAN!