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KingGivBiz;5573984 said:I know people gonna say its a TKO that marc mero does, but the way Brock does it (fireman carry) now Edge was the original as far as I know.
jono;5573753 said:Makaveli Joker;5573414 said:It seemed like the WWE was pushing Edge too much
Edge's solo push started in 2001, he was pegged as the "face of smackdown" in 2002. He got hurt and was brought back and pushed again as the top face versus Evolution. When that failed he turned heel and then he didn't generate enough heat by himself so they teamed him up with Lita and began the Matt Hardy thing. That's about 3-4 years of solid pushing. Without Matt & Lita he doesn't make it to the main event for real. He shined once he was there though, I will say that.
Most guys would have been buried for failing that much.
JokerKing;5574244 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574185 said:Makaveli Joker;5574084 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574068 said:Makaveli Joker;5574059 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574030 said:Makaveli Joker;5574005 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5573996 said:Makaveli Joker;5573949 said:KingGivBiz;5573888 said:Makaveli Joker;5573801 said:KingGivBiz;5573540 said:Edge was triple h lite and many people feel Trips is overrated but the thing is everyone is overrated when you compare them to The Rock or Hogan, but honestly compared to dudes in his singles era... You cant tell me he wasnt one of the best in his peer group. Its almost by default. Also its the WWE HOF... Its not a real legit HOF yet but with the introduction of Bruno N Backlund its becoming a little more legit but Drew Careys in it so why not Edge?
/rant
There is absolutely no comparison between edge and hhh. HHH is legitimately a legend up there with Hogan, SCSA, and HBK.
You're wrong. Like Cena, Triple h and Edge got way too many title reign imo albeit Edges was more of the transitional variety. Plus I called Edge "HHH-lite or a Poor Mans trips" basically showing Triple h more respect, but to say i can't even say that ... meh a force. You still my bro tho.
Triple H got too many title reigns? In case you forgot, ten years ago, triple h was helping to make future wwe superstars when the world heavyweight championship was on raw. Batista, Randy Orton, not to mention he brought back Hogans and undertaker careers and legitimized Kurt Angle by putting him over.
hhh is a wwe hof talent but hhh had the strap at least 5 times too many, i could never put him on the same tier as the scsa's, hitman's, hbk's, taker's, sting's, etc, at best id have him as a leader of the second tier, yes he put a few people over, but thats what ur supposed to do, how can he bring back 2 careers that were still much bigger than his? and angle was already legit and a better in ring performer than hhh, hhh is a good storyteller but an even better politician, he wouldnt be where he is w/o fuckin steph, hhh=shane douglas with luck
That's just plain hate. Hogan and Undertaker were dead in 2002, that triangle beef with triple h for the undisputed title brought their careers back. If not for the WWE, triple h would be the man in TNA
how's it hate? hhh brought back undertaker?! HOGAN?! really?
After Hogans match with rock at Wrestlemania 18, Hogan was a gimmick until he feuded with hhh for the undisputed title, which legitimized Hogans career again as a legitimate singles wrestler.
i look at that as legitimizing hhh
Triple H was one of the 3 faces of the attitude era and the head of dx, explain how he needed legitimizing.
scsa, rock, taker, hbk were leading the attitude era for a couple years while hhh was still rising as european champion, rock was rising too but he'd surpassed hhh, hhh had already had some championship reigns by the time he came up on hogan and prolly was the top heel, but that rivalry was prolly meant to make sure to cement hhh, how did hogan need legitimizing is the real question tho
Hogan was a gimmick after Wrestlemania 18. Nobody expected this guy to challenge for the WWE title. His matches with hhh for the belt would be nothing without hhh playing the role of ruthless heel punishing Hogan. Have you seen Hogan wrestle in 2002? Slow, rusty, and botch a holic. Triple h carried him.
Already Home_17;7114000 said:jono;5573753 said:Makaveli Joker;5573414 said:It seemed like the WWE was pushing Edge too much
Edge's solo push started in 2001, he was pegged as the "face of smackdown" in 2002. He got hurt and was brought back and pushed again as the top face versus Evolution. When that failed he turned heel and then he didn't generate enough heat by himself so they teamed him up with Lita and began the Matt Hardy thing. That's about 3-4 years of solid pushing. Without Matt & Lita he doesn't make it to the main event for real. He shined once he was there though, I will say that.
Most guys would have been buried for failing that much.
how are you considered a failure if you get injured?
he took the IC strap from orton, who held it for about 8 months. how is that a fail?
edge was getting heat as a heel before they teamed him up with lita. he was the whiner who felt he wasnt getting a fair shot at the world heavyweight championship. lets not act like dude ever had a hard time generating heat by himself as a heel
JokerKing;5574244 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574185 said:Makaveli Joker;5574084 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574068 said:Makaveli Joker;5574059 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574030 said:Makaveli Joker;5574005 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5573996 said:Makaveli Joker;5573949 said:KingGivBiz;5573888 said:Makaveli Joker;5573801 said:KingGivBiz;5573540 said:Edge was triple h lite and many people feel Trips is overrated but the thing is everyone is overrated when you compare them to The Rock or Hogan, but honestly compared to dudes in his singles era... You cant tell me he wasnt one of the best in his peer group. Its almost by default. Also its the WWE HOF... Its not a real legit HOF yet but with the introduction of Bruno N Backlund its becoming a little more legit but Drew Careys in it so why not Edge?
/rant
There is absolutely no comparison between edge and hhh. HHH is legitimately a legend up there with Hogan, SCSA, and HBK.
You're wrong. Like Cena, Triple h and Edge got way too many title reign imo albeit Edges was more of the transitional variety. Plus I called Edge "HHH-lite or a Poor Mans trips" basically showing Triple h more respect, but to say i can't even say that ... meh a force. You still my bro tho.
Triple H got too many title reigns? In case you forgot, ten years ago, triple h was helping to make future wwe superstars when the world heavyweight championship was on raw. Batista, Randy Orton, not to mention he brought back Hogans and undertaker careers and legitimized Kurt Angle by putting him over.
hhh is a wwe hof talent but hhh had the strap at least 5 times too many, i could never put him on the same tier as the scsa's, hitman's, hbk's, taker's, sting's, etc, at best id have him as a leader of the second tier, yes he put a few people over, but thats what ur supposed to do, how can he bring back 2 careers that were still much bigger than his? and angle was already legit and a better in ring performer than hhh, hhh is a good storyteller but an even better politician, he wouldnt be where he is w/o fuckin steph, hhh=shane douglas with luck
That's just plain hate. Hogan and Undertaker were dead in 2002, that triangle beef with triple h for the undisputed title brought their careers back. If not for the WWE, triple h would be the man in TNA
how's it hate? hhh brought back undertaker?! HOGAN?! really?
After Hogans match with rock at Wrestlemania 18, Hogan was a gimmick until he feuded with hhh for the undisputed title, which legitimized Hogans career again as a legitimate singles wrestler.
i look at that as legitimizing hhh
Triple H was one of the 3 faces of the attitude era and the head of dx, explain how he needed legitimizing.
scsa, rock, taker, hbk were leading the attitude era for a couple years while hhh was still rising as european champion, rock was rising too but he'd surpassed hhh, hhh had already had some championship reigns by the time he came up on hogan and prolly was the top heel, but that rivalry was prolly meant to make sure to cement hhh, how did hogan need legitimizing is the real question tho
Hogan was a gimmick after Wrestlemania 18. Nobody expected this guy to challenge for the WWE title. His matches with hhh for the belt would be nothing without hhh playing the role of ruthless heel punishing Hogan. Have you seen Hogan wrestle in 2002? Slow, rusty, and botch a holic. Triple h carried him.
dude...hhh was a face in that feud as well
TheBoyRo;7113090 said:Can't believe y'all ain't talking about the cena/edge feud from 06. That shit was entertaining as fuck.
jono;7114409 said:Already Home_17;7114000 said:jono;5573753 said:Makaveli Joker;5573414 said:It seemed like the WWE was pushing Edge too much
Edge's solo push started in 2001, he was pegged as the "face of smackdown" in 2002. He got hurt and was brought back and pushed again as the top face versus Evolution. When that failed he turned heel and then he didn't generate enough heat by himself so they teamed him up with Lita and began the Matt Hardy thing. That's about 3-4 years of solid pushing. Without Matt & Lita he doesn't make it to the main event for real. He shined once he was there though, I will say that.
Most guys would have been buried for failing that much.
how are you considered a failure if you get injured?
he took the IC strap from orton, who held it for about 8 months. how is that a fail?
edge was getting heat as a heel before they teamed him up with lita. he was the whiner who felt he wasnt getting a fair shot at the world heavyweight championship. lets not act like dude ever had a hard time generating heat by himself as a heel
JokerKing;5574244 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574185 said:Makaveli Joker;5574084 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574068 said:Makaveli Joker;5574059 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5574030 said:Makaveli Joker;5574005 said:Peezy_Jenkins;5573996 said:Makaveli Joker;5573949 said:KingGivBiz;5573888 said:Makaveli Joker;5573801 said:KingGivBiz;5573540 said:Edge was triple h lite and many people feel Trips is overrated but the thing is everyone is overrated when you compare them to The Rock or Hogan, but honestly compared to dudes in his singles era... You cant tell me he wasnt one of the best in his peer group. Its almost by default. Also its the WWE HOF... Its not a real legit HOF yet but with the introduction of Bruno N Backlund its becoming a little more legit but Drew Careys in it so why not Edge?
/rant
There is absolutely no comparison between edge and hhh. HHH is legitimately a legend up there with Hogan, SCSA, and HBK.
You're wrong. Like Cena, Triple h and Edge got way too many title reign imo albeit Edges was more of the transitional variety. Plus I called Edge "HHH-lite or a Poor Mans trips" basically showing Triple h more respect, but to say i can't even say that ... meh a force. You still my bro tho.
Triple H got too many title reigns? In case you forgot, ten years ago, triple h was helping to make future wwe superstars when the world heavyweight championship was on raw. Batista, Randy Orton, not to mention he brought back Hogans and undertaker careers and legitimized Kurt Angle by putting him over.
hhh is a wwe hof talent but hhh had the strap at least 5 times too many, i could never put him on the same tier as the scsa's, hitman's, hbk's, taker's, sting's, etc, at best id have him as a leader of the second tier, yes he put a few people over, but thats what ur supposed to do, how can he bring back 2 careers that were still much bigger than his? and angle was already legit and a better in ring performer than hhh, hhh is a good storyteller but an even better politician, he wouldnt be where he is w/o fuckin steph, hhh=shane douglas with luck
That's just plain hate. Hogan and Undertaker were dead in 2002, that triangle beef with triple h for the undisputed title brought their careers back. If not for the WWE, triple h would be the man in TNA
how's it hate? hhh brought back undertaker?! HOGAN?! really?
After Hogans match with rock at Wrestlemania 18, Hogan was a gimmick until he feuded with hhh for the undisputed title, which legitimized Hogans career again as a legitimate singles wrestler.
i look at that as legitimizing hhh
Triple H was one of the 3 faces of the attitude era and the head of dx, explain how he needed legitimizing.
scsa, rock, taker, hbk were leading the attitude era for a couple years while hhh was still rising as european champion, rock was rising too but he'd surpassed hhh, hhh had already had some championship reigns by the time he came up on hogan and prolly was the top heel, but that rivalry was prolly meant to make sure to cement hhh, how did hogan need legitimizing is the real question tho
Hogan was a gimmick after Wrestlemania 18. Nobody expected this guy to challenge for the WWE title. His matches with hhh for the belt would be nothing without hhh playing the role of ruthless heel punishing Hogan. Have you seen Hogan wrestle in 2002? Slow, rusty, and botch a holic. Triple h carried him.
dude...hhh was a face in that feud as well
That shit he was doing wasn't over. He was feuding with HBK and was barely over. Nobody took Edge seriously, it wasn't until the Matt Hardy feud and the real life heat between the two of them that he was able to make a transition to main event status. They had been trying for 4 years up to that point to make him a main event star.
All that HGH he was taking had his body falling apart.
Dude was supposed to be the one man to take down Evolution he got as far as winning the IC title from Orton. He might have wrestled Batista (I'm sure they wrestled at Summerslam in a triple threat) but he never made it to HHH.
TheBoyRo;7113090 said:Can't believe y'all ain't talking about the cena/edge feud from 06. That shit was entertaining as fuck.
05-07 were good years for both Edge and Cena. Their feud was pretty good but it went on too long and most of the match were wack. Their TLC match is gold though.
MSG Da Mecca;7170697 said:Extremely Overrated
When he first won the belt I was like "how in the fuck Undertaker's lackey become the world champion?"
MSG Da Mecca;7173873 said:Lol. Hold up... Edge was Gangrel's lackey, but weren't they all Taker's lackeys?