Waka Flocka: “Rick Ross Out Here Making 30 Sounds With My Sound. He Watering It Down.”

[Turfaholic]

turfaholic explain your "ross is flavor of the week" statement tho

nigga first album went gold in 06

he only got more popular 4 years later

50 cent was done by his 3rd album

i don't get the correlation

Its not about sales, its about who the machine wants to be on top & passing the torch. Kinda like Pacquiao losing that fight. Ross popularity is loosing steam, hence the media releasing "false" statements from other popular rappers. They finna crown a new top dog soon.

But if you wanna talk about sales, Ross was some what done by his 3rd album. Deeper Than Rap is his lowest selling album. Waka Flocka style & help from hella guest features saved him on Teflon Don.

he had hella guest features on all his albums

i don't understand this "machine" shit

so 50 was a product of the "machine"?

was jay a product of the "machine"?

did this "machine" just magically appear when a rapper you don't like gained some popularity?

how is that nigga top dog when nicki minaj and drake went platinum before he did?

you not makin no sense....as usual

With 50, the Machine is A Jew & 2 Homos. Everybody knows Jews & Homos run the entertainement world.

Jay became apart of the machine when he stabbed Dame & Biggs in the back. Replaced the niggas who helped him get on for Jews. Lyor Cohen.

The Machine made N.W.A. the popular thing to help along the self imposed genocide of the black community rather it be through AIDS, Murder, or jail.

Drake hasnt had near as much as promotion Rick Ross has had the past 2 years. Artist of the Year covers, Magazine covers, press conferences, reebok deals, food chain purchases, his own record label, cosigns from many of hip hops heavy hitters.

jay was successful before he stabbed dame in the back

if drake hasn't had as much promotion.......why did he go platinum on his first 2 albums while it took ross 2 albums to sell a mil?

Jay was sucessful before, but after the split is when he lost that hip hop image and became Business Man Hov. hov stabbed his people in the back for a bigger check.

Drake sold based on his music. Love or hate Drake, but he makes versatile albums. So he's gonna have people of different age groups & racial backgrounds cop his shit. If I bought albums, I woulda bought it on the strength of The Motto & Headlines. As a consumer who doesnt like Rick Ross work, I got tired of reading, hearing, & seeing that nigga everywhere. EVERYWHERE!!! Performing at award shows, source & XXL covers, Nike ads, wingstop news.

 

[BackInWhite]

turfaholic explain your "ross is flavor of the week" statement tho

nigga first album went gold in 06

he only got more popular 4 years later

50 cent was done by his 3rd album

i don't get the correlation

Its not about sales, its about who the machine wants to be on top & passing the torch. Kinda like Pacquiao losing that fight. Ross popularity is loosing steam, hence the media releasing "false" statements from other popular rappers. They finna crown a new top dog soon.

But if you wanna talk about sales, Ross was some what done by his 3rd album. Deeper Than Rap is his lowest selling album. Waka Flocka style & help from hella guest features saved him on Teflon Don.

he had hella guest features on all his albums

i don't understand this "machine" shit

so 50 was a product of the "machine"?

was jay a product of the "machine"?

did this "machine" just magically appear when a rapper you don't like gained some popularity?

how is that nigga top dog when nicki minaj and drake went platinum before he did?

you not makin no sense....as usual

With 50, the Machine is A Jew & 2 Homos. Everybody knows Jews & Homos run the entertainement world.

Jay became apart of the machine when he stabbed Dame & Biggs in the back. Replaced the niggas who helped him get on for Jews. Lyor Cohen.

The Machine made N.W.A. the popular thing to help along the self imposed genocide of the black community rather it be through AIDS, Murder, or jail.

Drake hasnt had near as much as promotion Rick Ross has had the past 2 years. Artist of the Year covers, Magazine covers, press conferences, reebok deals, food chain purchases, his own record label, cosigns from many of hip hops heavy hitters.

jay was successful before he stabbed dame in the back

if drake hasn't had as much promotion.......why did he go platinum on his first 2 albums while it took ross 2 albums to sell a mil?

Jay was sucessful before, but after the split is when he lost that hip hop image and became Business Man Hov. hov stabbed his people in the back for a bigger check.

Drake sold based on his music. Love or hate Drake, but he makes versatile albums. So he's gonna have people of different age groups & racial backgrounds cop his shit. If I bought albums, I woulda bought it on the strength of The Motto & Headlines. As a consumer who doesnt like Rick Ross work, I got tired of reading, hearing, & seeing that nigga everywhere. EVERYWHERE!!! Performing at award shows, source & XXL covers, Nike ads, wingstop news.

cuz you don't like the nigga don't mean that just cuz he everywhere that a "machine" is behind his popularity

that's some crab in a barrel shit, dunny

a nigga can't be successful off his own work ethic and merit, naw some white person gotta be behind it

 

[Turfaholic]

turfaholic explain your "ross is flavor of the week" statement tho

nigga first album went gold in 06

he only got more popular 4 years later

50 cent was done by his 3rd album

i don't get the correlation

Its not about sales, its about who the machine wants to be on top & passing the torch. Kinda like Pacquiao losing that fight. Ross popularity is loosing steam, hence the media releasing "false" statements from other popular rappers. They finna crown a new top dog soon.

But if you wanna talk about sales, Ross was some what done by his 3rd album. Deeper Than Rap is his lowest selling album. Waka Flocka style & help from hella guest features saved him on Teflon Don.

he had hella guest features on all his albums

i don't understand this "machine" shit

so 50 was a product of the "machine"?

was jay a product of the "machine"?

did this "machine" just magically appear when a rapper you don't like gained some popularity?

how is that nigga top dog when nicki minaj and drake went platinum before he did?

you not makin no sense....as usual

With 50, the Machine is A Jew & 2 Homos. Everybody knows Jews & Homos run the entertainement world.

Jay became apart of the machine when he stabbed Dame & Biggs in the back. Replaced the niggas who helped him get on for Jews. Lyor Cohen.

The Machine made N.W.A. the popular thing to help along the self imposed genocide of the black community rather it be through AIDS, Murder, or jail.

Drake hasnt had near as much as promotion Rick Ross has had the past 2 years. Artist of the Year covers, Magazine covers, press conferences, reebok deals, food chain purchases, his own record label, cosigns from many of hip hops heavy hitters.

jay was successful before he stabbed dame in the back

if drake hasn't had as much promotion.......why did he go platinum on his first 2 albums while it took ross 2 albums to sell a mil?

Jay was sucessful before, but after the split is when he lost that hip hop image and became Business Man Hov. hov stabbed his people in the back for a bigger check.

Drake sold based on his music. Love or hate Drake, but he makes versatile albums. So he's gonna have people of different age groups & racial backgrounds cop his shit. If I bought albums, I woulda bought it on the strength of The Motto & Headlines. As a consumer who doesnt like Rick Ross work, I got tired of reading, hearing, & seeing that nigga everywhere. EVERYWHERE!!! Performing at award shows, source & XXL covers, Nike ads, wingstop news.

cuz you don't like the nigga don't mean that just cuz he everywhere that a "machine" is behind his popularity

that's some crab in a barrel shit, dunny

a nigga can't be successful off his own work ethic and merit, naw some white person gotta be behind it

If youre under the Universal umbrella, youre boss is a white guy. Universal is touching almost everything music, movies, & tv. Lucian Grainge is the HNIC in the music world right now. I dunno bout his work ethic, but musically dude is overrated IMO. As stated before, his album rely on guest features. "My first album had no famous appearances. The outcome? I'm crowned the best lyricist". Quoted by Nas. Ross has yet to prove he can hold it down on his own. What song do you think really pushed Teflon Don? BMF or Ashton Martin Music?

 

[king papichulo]

I understand what Waka is saying. But that ain't "his sound". That sound has been around before Waka. Shawty Redd been making that sound years before Lex Luger stepped on the scene. Plus the fact that Ross played a part in blowing up Lex hurts his case. If anything, Ross is still tryna capitalize off his own success with B.M.F.

Also it ain't right for Waka to only be throwing shots at Ross, cuz he ain't the only rapper that been running with Waka's so called "style". Juicy J been using it heavily. Wiz used it for a minute as well. Cabin fever had that feel to it. Then you got Chief Keef, who is basically a Waka clone. Yet Ross is the only one that he threw shots at.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

nigga too wack to be talkin like that.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

someone about to answer with shawty redd

but its true that rick ross wasn't with waka, lex, and southside when they made that sound together

it got abused

I feel what Waka is saying but Shawty redd and jeezy had that sound way before he did.....someone should remind him of that....

I'VE SAID THIS SHIT AS SOON AS OFFICER RICKY STARTED DOING IT. THEN THE REST OF THEM SOUTH "TRAP RAPPERS" STARTED DOING IT. BUT NOBODY WANTED TO LISTEN. IT'S A SHAME YALL WANT TO PAY ATTENTION AFTER A RETARD LIKE WACKA WACKA WACKA SAY IT LOL. half these songs coming out now sound like songs on jeezy 1st and 2nd album. I made a thread about this shit after Officer ricy released B.M.F and all thoes other songs that sounded like it he released after.

jeezy said this shit a long time ago and niggas said he was hating lol.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

fuck jeezy, that nigga abandoned shawty redd

redd/d-rich deserve more respect than a lil bit for makin this sound, luger and sonny digital don ran it into the ground

 

[PILL_COSBY]

fuck jeezy, that nigga abandoned shawty redd

redd/d-rich deserve more respect than a lil bit for makin this sound, luger and sonny digital don ran it into the ground

YOU FORGOT TO ADD DRUMMA BOY LOL ALL THEM NIGGAS SOUND LIKE SHAWTY REDD.

 

[southernmade]

fuck jeezy, that nigga abandoned shawty redd

redd/d-rich deserve more respect than a lil bit for makin this sound, luger and sonny digital don ran it into the ground

YOU FORGOT TO ADD DRUMMA BOY LOL ALL THEM NIGGAS SOUND LIKE SHAWTY REDD.

ehhh I always thought drumma was a little more well rounded than redd but thats just me...

 

[GeE-757]

poor waka, last album was a classic, new album straight garbage. go make good music n keep niggaz names outcha mouf, biiitch

LOL...but real talk i aint gonna say nuttin till waka comez out & sayz this himself cuz after that whole saigon shit i dont believe nun of da shit these magazinez is printin no mo & if waka really did say that foolishness DRIZZY was rite on stay schemin niggaz nowadayz is REACHIN just 2 sell they record!

ross did not say shit when suge diss him

guess ross cant pretend 2 b a boss when he cant cuff any 1

i understand u live n canada & u still think da gggay-unit is hot but u r outta loop wit wat goes on n emerica cuz SUGE KNIGHTZ NIECE has MMG tatt;d on da same arm as her DEATHROW tat & she was talkin 2 SUGE @ MEEK MILLZ TUPAC BACK video shoot askin was SUGE still comin 2 da shoot so thatz y ross aint say nuttin back 2 suge cuz suge was just talkin outta da side of his azz & he felt a lil sour cuz ross is out herr gettin that guap wit DIDDY!

If youre under the Universal umbrella, youre boss is a white guy. Universal is touching almost everything music, movies, & tv. Lucian Grainge is the HNIC in the music world right now. I dunno bout his work ethic, but musically dude is overrated IMO. As stated before, his album rely on guest features. "My first album had no famous appearances. The outcome? I'm crowned the best lyricist". Quoted by Nas. Ross has yet to prove he can hold it down on his own. What song do you think really pushed Teflon Don? BMF or Ashton Martin Music?

thatz how 90% of these rap labelz is ran therr is alwayz a white @ da top ova da whole industry da difference between a rick ross & a woodface is rozay dont have no cracka slavemassah like FEMINem CHEATIN wit white sellz & woodface has/had that advantage cuz hez a slave 2 a CRACKA like FEMINEM!

 

[hnic1978]

I don't understand this BS. It isn't like the style is great. Its repetitive as fuck and you can't make a whole album off doin it. Everybody wanna think you bought something new to the game but like Nas said a long time ago " No idea's Original. Everybody borrows a producer or a style and adapt it to them. Waka thinking ANYBODY would copy his remedial ass and niggas on here co-signing is fucking hillarious.

 

[GeE-757]

Mane I know some low level Bricksquad niggaz. You know? Them niggaz in the back of the videos. The niggaz that get excited when Waka gives them a chorus. They told me Bricksquad and Ross' camp been beefin on the low for about 2 or 3 years. The labels made them squash that shit.

how is that possible when waka & bricksquad has been fukin wit mmg da past 2 3 yrz??...smh rap is on sum reall WWE shit!

 

[GeE-757]

It wasn't Ross and Gucci from what i've been told. It was more of both of their camps don't like each other and the labels made that shit die down.

again that shit soundz krazy tho cuz mmg & bricksquad has been doin collaboz fa da past 2 3 yrz this rap shit is funnie mane lol....but now that i think about it it could b a lil beef between da STREET TEAMZ cuz i guess bricksquad is jealous mmg is hot & is everywherr idunno..

 

[purpngold]

rofl

who remember when lil jon made the same beat for 3 different songs?

the beat for usher's 'yeah' was like 1 sound short of petey pablo's freak-a-leak and 3 sounds more than young blood's 'damn'

and the song goodies by ciara. I never noticed that till now

 

[nujerz84]

Neptunes did the same thing too with Please Dont Mind and Im a slave 4 U

 

[c.b.b.]

I don't understand this BS. It isn't like the style is great. Its repetitive as fuck and you can't make a whole album off doin it. Everybody wanna think you bought something new to the game but like Nas said a long time ago " No idea's Original. Everybody borrows a producer or a style and adapt it to them. Waka thinking ANYBODY would copy his remedial ass and niggas on here co-signing is fucking hillarious.

Right, I don't see what Waka's complaint is.

That sound won't get you any sales anyway. All it will do is keep street buzz and get you hood shows, not the big $ venues

 

[I'm THAT guy...]

He should tell his producers to quit selling beats to everyone if he doesn't want people's music to sound like his.

 

[H-Rap 180]

It wasn't Ross and Gucci from what i've been told. It was more of both of their camps don't like each other and the labels made that shit die down.

again that shit soundz krazy tho cuz mmg & bricksquad has been doin collaboz fa da past 2 3 yrz this rap shit is funnie mane lol....but now that i think about it it could b a lil beef between da STREET TEAMZ cuz i guess bricksquad is jealous mmg is hot & is everywherr idunno..

Damn Gee you never fall for the okie-doke, you must be psychic LOL, I just seen on my time-line Wacka saying it's fugazee, the haters just trying to divide us.

@WakaFlockaBsm

Just got off the phone with Rozay we talking bout these lames try 2 break shit up #MMG #YMCMB #BSM we it’s all the same.

 

[GeE-757]

Damn Gee you never fall for the okie-doke, you must be psychic LOL, I just seen on my time-line Wacka saying it's fugazee, the haters just trying to divide us.

@WakaFlockaBsm

Just got off the phone with Rozay we talking bout these lames try 2 break shit up #MMG #YMCMB #BSM we it’s all the same.

c i fukin knew it waka aint say that dumb shit i bet a white bitch wrote that shit like wit da whole saigon shit ross got these haterz mad makin up shit smh...

 

[H-Rap 180]

@GEE

Naw, D. Scott wrote it, he a Black nerd from the suburbs be tweeting about Hockey, he does the Tech/Gadget column at Complex. He didnt have final edit tho' most likely.