Virginia declares April Confederate History Month....cr@ckas are going too far now

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bornnraisedoffCMR;457520 said:
What's wrong with learning about the history of their state?

Nothing is wrong with learning about the history of a state, but to declare it Confederate History Month is crazy because it celebrates the deeds of a government that not only held slaves and oppressed them, but also fought against the Union. Slavery represents a huge stain that is still on this nation's back, and to celebrate this as some kind of good thing is really disgusting.
 
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kingblaze84;457532 said:
Nothing is wrong with learning about the history of a state, but to declare it Confederate History Month is crazy because it celebrates the deeds of a government that not only held slaves and oppressed them, but also fought against the Union. Slavery represents a huge stain that is still on this nation's back, and to celebrate this as some kind of good thing is really disgusting.

i agree. i'm sure they study about the holocaust and WWII in germany, but they would never dedicate a "nazi history month"
 
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_Ozymandias_;457548 said:
i agree. i'm sure they study about the holocaust and WWII in germany, but they would never dedicate a "nazi history month"

Exactly, and I'm pretty sure the USA doesn't celebrate Columbus' birthday as a holiday.....err, wow they do.....wow. Damn.
 
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kingblaze84;457655 said:
Exactly, and I'm pretty sure the USA doesn't celebrate Columbus' birthday as a holiday.....err, wow they do.....wow. Damn.

He founded this great nation though supposedly its a big difference, America got its problems but we are all free to go back to Africa now lol. Even though the way we came was bs and wrong on so many levels, im glad im here now.
 
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Im so happy and delighted that white people all over Amerikkka are showing their true nature!!! You sick-minded rainbow-coalition ni99a's deserved a ni99a wake-up call and theres many more to come.

You better accept your own and be yourselves and quit trying to tame that Beast.
 
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SMH my little brother lives down in Virginia, now he's gotta put up with that crap. (shakes head again)
 
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What difference does it make?

There is nothing that happened under the confederate flag that did not happen under the American Flag.

Let them have their month.
 
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And Step;461885 said:
What difference does it make?

There is nothing that happened under the confederate flag that did not happen under the American Flag.

Let them have their month.

so if you were a black person living in VA you wouldn't mind your kids having to go to school and sit through a month worth celebrations honoring an institution that considered you less than human?
 
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_Ozymandias_;463388 said:
so if you were a black person living in VA you wouldn't mind your kids having to go to school and sit through a month worth celebrations honoring an institution that considered you less than human?

How is that any less different than public schools who honor slavemasters and genocidal tyrants who were not in the confederacy?

Heck the constitution labels you less than human, yet it is taught and maintained as the standard of civil jurisprudence.

See I don't make any difference between the Confederacy and the Union. Both treated Blacks with contempt

This is reactionary. The real issue is why after 130 years do you still have to protest to get what you want?

Black people will stay in an inferior non power wielding position as long as their actions are reactive and not proactive. This wouldn't even be an issue if we had done what Booker T, Marcus Garvey and others had suggested at the turn of the century. Develop your own institutions to service your needs. Educational integration has proven to be a cruel hoax. Schools are worse and children are less literate and prepared for the world than ever before.
 
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And Step;463489 said:
How is that any less different than public schools who honor slavemasters and genocidal tyrants who were not in the confederacy?

Heck the constitution labels you less than human, yet it is taught and maintained as the standard of civil jurisprudence.

See I don't make any difference between the Confederacy and the Union. Both treated Blacks with contempt

This is reactionary. The real issue is why after 130 years do you still have to protest to get what you want?

Black people will stay in an inferior non power wielding position as long as their actions are reactive and not proactive. This wouldn't even be an issue if we had done what Booker T, Marcus Garvey and others had suggested at the turn of the century. Develop your own institutions to service your needs. Educational integration has proven to be a cruel hoax. Schools are worse and children are less literate and prepared for the world than ever before.

All excellent points but the Civil Rights movement did improve the situation for blacks, especially compared to the 1930s and 60s. Poverty is down dramatically, employment is up dramatically, and blacks now have more resources compared to back in the day. I do agree with you strongly that integration has been highly overrated, we blacks should have kept building our OWN institutions, rather than be integrated into a racist system (or formerly racist system, whatever floats ya'll boat). Booker T Washington and other black scholars had it right when they said blacks should build up our own shit before we rely on any white man's structure.

With that being said, could you picture Germany having a Nazi Appreciation Month? Do you think Jews would be happy about that? Why should blacks be happy about Confederate History Month when the Confederates were blatantly fighting to keep slavery?

Of course the Union was not much better, but at least they abolished slavery in the Confederate states. If it was up to the Confederacy, slavery would still exist today.
 
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And Step;463489 said:
How is that any less different than public schools who honor slavemasters and genocidal tyrants who were not in the confederacy?

Heck the constitution labels you less than human, yet it is taught and maintained as the standard of civil jurisprudence.

See I don't make any difference between the Confederacy and the Union. Both treated Blacks with contempt

This is reactionary. The real issue is why after 130 years do you still have to protest to get what you want?

Black people will stay in an inferior non power wielding position as long as their actions are reactive and not proactive. This wouldn't even be an issue if we had done what Booker T, Marcus Garvey and others had suggested at the turn of the century. Develop your own institutions to service your needs. Educational integration has proven to be a cruel hoax. Schools are worse and children are less literate and prepared for the world than ever before.

there are a lot of people and events in american history that supported unjust ideals, but i don't have a problem with learning about them. i do have a problem with celebrating them. we studied the constitution, slavery, and the civil war in school but at no time(at least at the schools i went to) did my teachers glorify and celebrate those parts in our history that clearly can't be justified. you learn about the horrors of the past so that you won't be subject to reliving them. but studying the confederacy and celebrating it are two different things.

and i agree with you that our current education system doesn't always teach real knowledge, but allowing an elective official to make the decision to glorify a rebellion based on the idea of hatred and oppression is just teaching another generation of kids that a corrupt, dishonest, and racist system is acceptable.
 
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And Step;463489 said:
See I don't make any difference between the Confederacy and the Union. Both treated Blacks with contempt
well, perhaps it's splitting hairs, but the CSA had much more of an "every black dude should be a slave" mentality than the Union. yes, i am aware that the Union was not exactly founded on an anti-slavery basis, but the CSA was still worse.
 
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I saw a black guy with a confederate flag on his back one time. He was in some sort of Union in Virginia. I nearly shit in my restaurant seat right there at subway when I saw that.
 
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I live in Northern VA. I don't see this making much of a difference here considering most of the people around my area are nonwhite immigrants.
 
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