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i dont understand how people can find the fukk credible after so many holes in his story.

so you tell me a nigga can lie an change and hesistate while telling a story and you can drive a brinks truck thru the holes but then wanna beleive him because the other person was a thug with a chip on his shoulder.

an how do people even know trayvon had a chip on his shoulder

 
Gold_Certificate;6092442 said:
damobb2deep;6092338 said:
Gold_Certificate;6091966 said:
So you're saying Rachel Jeantel is also lying about Treyvon running?

Her testimony is pretty consistent with his, in this regard (3:52 vs 3:56).

Is it just a coincidence that they both lied and said Treyvon ran around the same time?

you remind me of Sheldon from big bang theory
I have never watched this.

can'tyoutell;6092404 said:
Gold_Certificate;6091966 said:
So you're saying Rachel Jeantel is also lying about Treyvon running?

Her testimony is pretty consistent with his, in this regard (3:52 vs 3:56).

Is it just a coincidence that they both lied and said Treyvon ran around the same time?

I believe you like to call this speculation?
Nah, speculation would be me trying to say I know what happened during the 3:56 time-frame.

The 3:56 time-frame comes from the call logs presented as evidence during the trial, and corroborated by Rachel Jeantel.

he completely lacks empathy and completely live in a world of logic reason and fact
 
damobb2deep;6092868 said:
Gold_Certificate;6092442 said:
damobb2deep;6092338 said:
Gold_Certificate;6091966 said:
So you're saying Rachel Jeantel is also lying about Treyvon running?

Her testimony is pretty consistent with his, in this regard (3:52 vs 3:56).

Is it just a coincidence that they both lied and said Treyvon ran around the same time?

you remind me of Sheldon from big bang theory
I have never watched this.

can'tyoutell;6092404 said:
Gold_Certificate;6091966 said:
So you're saying Rachel Jeantel is also lying about Treyvon running?

Her testimony is pretty consistent with his, in this regard (3:52 vs 3:56).

Is it just a coincidence that they both lied and said Treyvon ran around the same time?

I believe you like to call this speculation?
Nah, speculation would be me trying to say I know what happened during the 3:56 time-frame.

The 3:56 time-frame comes from the call logs presented as evidence during the trial, and corroborated by Rachel Jeantel.

he completely lacks empathy and completely live in a world of logic reason and fact
Sounds like a great character.
 
Gold_Certificate;6092414 said:
UPTOWNCONNEXX;6092237 said:
Gold_Certificate;6091966 said:
So you're saying Rachel Jeantel is also lying about Treyvon running?

that is not what jeantel said ... she said she TOLD MARTIN TO RUN (SOME INSTANCES SHE SAYS "JUST WALK AWAY TO YOUR DADS HOUSE") at the time when they were on the phone SHE NEVER ACTUALLY SAID THAT "trayvon then started running". she also said that she heard trayvon yelling "get off me" "get off me" ...the phone convo between them ends because of the scuffle ... she said she heard trayvon ask "why are you following me for?" and she said she heard zimmerman ask trayvon "what are you doing around here" then heard the scuffle. when trayvon FIRST TOLD HER ABOUT ZIMMERMAN ... to the time when she called him back and got no answer was the 4 mins my dude ... thats why the diagram made no sense

so she didnt call back until a couple mins later to see if he was good ... so what??? that doesnt support zimmermans case.

so what we have is

jeantel on the phone with trayvon at the 7 eleven. the call was dropped

trayvon is then at point 1 on the diagram you gave. the place where he stopped cause he was getting out of the rain.

it is during this time that he calls jeantel back and says he noticed zimmerman watching him. this is the beginning of the 4 minutes

jeantel says dont worry about it just head to your dads house

trayvon does ... but mind you he stays on the phone with her all the way up until zimmerman actually confronts him. before zimmerman confronts him trayvon says "im gonna try and lose him" which is where zimmerman gives chase and starts the confrontation, jeantel hears it, the call is dropped, she waits (even the prosecution asked her why didnt she call 911), then she calls back and gets no answer

^^^^

this is the four minutes ...

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trayvon was standing under point 1 for how long waiting for the rain to die down??

then he tries to walk by where zimmerman says he was parked, then the whole situation goes down.

youre trying to imply that trayvon ran at the 0:00 mark and then 3:56 seconds later she couldnt get an answer. meaning that trayvon and zimmerman were scrapping for like 3 mins

So according to the call logs of both Zimmerman and Rachel Jeantel, at least 3 minutes and 52 seconds pass between the time of Treyvon running and the time of Treyvon's last call with Rachel Jeantel disconnecting.

thats not what happened my friend

thats where youre wrong ... nothing says that trayvon ran and then 4 minutes later she couldnt get back in touch ... the call between him and jeantel was initiated WELL BEFORE he ran

They had multiple calls over the time period, the ones I'm referring to are the last two; as was mentioned in her testimony.

Starts around 1:28:40:


Transcript of her testimony:
DON WEST: Yesterday you said that as far as you knew those were accurate times of the calls that you and trayvon martin had on february 26th, CORRECT?

RACHEL JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

DON WEST: Because it was represented to you that those times were taken from the actual phone company records?

DON WEST: Present to you those times were taken from the actual phone company records.

RACHEL JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: So you don't have any argument with that.

JEANTEL: No, sir.

WEST: Well, take a look at the second to last call.

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: It began at 6:54:16 p.m. and disconnected at 7:11:47. Do you see that?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: The next call picked up at 7:12:06. Do you see that?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: And disconnected at 7:15:43? Correct?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: So let's work backwards. Let's assume that at 7:15:43 the phone cut off.

JEANTEL: Yes.

WEST: When you were describing the interaction between Mr. Martin and Mr. Zimmerman. Ok?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: So that call had started at 7:12:06 which was a little over three minutes, correct?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: And there weren't any interruptions in that phone call?

WEST: No, sir.

WEST: And frankly you don't know at 7:15:43 when the phone cut off, whether it cut off for any reason other than it was just one more lost call?

JEANTEL: No, sir.

JEANTEL: So look at the other call though, the one before it, where it says it disconnected at 7:11:47. Do you see that?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: And that the next call started at 7:12:06.

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: If you do the math and figure out how long it was between 7:11:47 and 7:12:06, to me, that is --

JUDGE: If you need to take a copy of that.

WEST: Step back. That's about 19 seconds, correct?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: So does that seem to you to be about right if, that when Trayvon Martin ran, ran towards the back of his father's house, while George Zimmerman was in the car, that about 20 seconds elapsed before your call reconnected?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: So the only time from before 7:00, before any part of this case actually started.

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: You were on the phone with Mr. Martin for all of that time except about 20 seconds?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

WEST: And it was the 20 seconds we're talking about where Mr. Martin had decided to run and then you reconnected with him?

JEANTEL: Yes, sir.

So, as I said, Rachel Jeantel testified that Treyvon ran and her call disconnected at 7:11:47PM, she then called back, and her last call with him disconnected at 7:15:43PM; which is 3:56 later. Only 19 seconds pass between the time her second to last call disconnected and her last call began, and she said she didn't hear a confrontation until the end of the call, right before it disconnected at 7:15:43.

So this leaves around three minutes and fifty-six seconds between the time she says he ran, till the time she says a confrontation occurred.


two things wise guy ....

1. she never says at what point during the call that trayvon runs. the 20 seconds represent a time when they are not on the phone together ... so how the hell would she know if he's running??? THE PROSECUTOR SAID TRAYVON RAN because it correlates with what zimmerman claimed. her only statement was that trayvon said that he was "gonna try to lose him" which was while they were still connected on the phone.

WEST: So does that seem to you to be about right if, that when Trayvon Martin ran, ran towards the back of his father's house, while George Zimmerman was in the car, that about 20 seconds elapsed before your call reconnected?

the nigga even says IF!!!

its all speculation that trayvon ran. for him to answer the phone in 20 secs after it hung up means that he would have still been running while answering the call. very very unlikely..... plus ... it does not matter when the call disconnected ... because she did not say she didnt hear a confrontation until right before the call got disconnected ... she said that was the last thing she heard ... there's a huge difference

then to top it off they're saying that zimmerman was in the car when trayvon ran, but the call to dispatch was supposed proof that he was outside of his car, where he is recorded saying that he was following trayvon. how are you following a person while in a parked car??? this means he got out got back in then got back out the car again??? because according to the prosecution, trayvon didnt run while he was being followed, he ran while zimmerman was still in the car.... more nonsense because zimmerman said that trayvon followed him to his car

2. for this to be true that means (like i said before) that zimmerman and trayvon were fighting for like 3 mins which even further takes zimmerman away from self defense .... nigga thats a whole round of boxing ...
 
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The Lonious Monk;6092496 said:
UPTOWNCONNEXX;6091749 said:
nigga in oj's case they literally fucked up the physical evidence that would have convicted him ... the hell are you talking about??? LOLOLOL

have you ever heard of the rico act???

link me to this case

you are out of your mind ... that white supremacy complex got you on some we are the world bullshit

What "We are the World" bullshit? So because I pointed out that legally there was no mistake made in this case? And because I've stated that we all know of cases were blacks have gotten off because of bad cases or even good cases due to having money. Nobody said the system was fair. Of course blacks are still getting shitted on. But this "woe is us" bullshit ya'll are trying to pass, acting like no black man ever gets a fair shake is stupid. And the idea, that it's fair for a white person to be done wrong just because black people get done wrong is just as stupid. We should be looking for everyone to be treated justly not hoping that other people will be treated as unjustly as us. Ya'll niggas stay promoting some dumb shit that ain't going to help anybody, blacks included.

there are some obvious holes in this case

fuck you mean wo is us??? youre knit picking my friend .... you really gonna sit here and say "well two black people got off on technicalities so the possiblity is there" bullshit??

if youre watching a basketball game and one team has 40 fouls and the other teams only has 2 or 3, you're really gonna sit here and say "well the ref DID call fouls on both teams"

da fuck do you think about on your free time dude?? LOL

 
i wonder how many times Gold_Certificate has to break it down for you before you get it. LoL gotdamn. at least hes willing to go back and forth, but it feels like hes attempting to teach a retarded person quantum physics.
 
riddlerap;6095042 said:
i wonder how many times Gold_Certificate has to break it down for you before you get it. LoL gotdamn. at least hes willing to go back and forth, but it feels like hes attempting to teach a retarded person quantum physics.

ill just step in on this one .... you dumb as fuck LOL

what the fuck are you reading

were not arguing how zimmerman got off .. we all understand that

the arguement lies in the fact that the case was not just open and shut the way ppl are making it seem ... there was some very eyebrow raising shit that just went ignored

 
obnoxiouslyfresh;6088408 said:
Batman.;6088372 said:
She's actually right. You can't just vote guilty because that's how you feel. It's that SYG shit.

But you can't just vote not guilty because you feel that he learned his lesson like the last bitch said.

I don't understand the hate for her, if you want to hate anything hate the Florida state justice system. Repeal SYG.

The fuck if you can't. My black ass would still be in that box today if I was on that jury. I would have been all kinds of black nigger bitches cause ain't no way you would have gotten me to vote "not guilty." It would not have occurred.

And yet people still wonder how no blacks made it on the jury
 
Matt-;6095542 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;6088408 said:
Batman.;6088372 said:
She's actually right. You can't just vote guilty because that's how you feel. It's that SYG shit.

But you can't just vote not guilty because you feel that he learned his lesson like the last bitch said.

I don't understand the hate for her, if you want to hate anything hate the Florida state justice system. Repeal SYG.

The fuck if you can't. My black ass would still be in that box today if I was on that jury. I would have been all kinds of black nigger bitches cause ain't no way you would have gotten me to vote "not guilty." It would not have occurred.

And yet people still wonder how no blacks made it on the jury

So any person who would have voted guilty shouldn't have been allowed on the jury - yup, sounds fair.
 
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Matt-;6095542 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;6088408 said:
Batman.;6088372 said:
She's actually right. You can't just vote guilty because that's how you feel. It's that SYG shit.

But you can't just vote not guilty because you feel that he learned his lesson like the last bitch said.

I don't understand the hate for her, if you want to hate anything hate the Florida state justice system. Repeal SYG.

The fuck if you can't. My black ass would still be in that box today if I was on that jury. I would have been all kinds of black nigger bitches cause ain't no way you would have gotten me to vote "not guilty." It would not have occurred.

And yet people still wonder how no blacks made it on the jury

cudda sworn the anonymous white juror admitted she thought zim was innocent from the start

 
Go figure;6095628 said:
Matt-;6095542 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;6088408 said:
Batman.;6088372 said:
She's actually right. You can't just vote guilty because that's how you feel. It's that SYG shit.

But you can't just vote not guilty because you feel that he learned his lesson like the last bitch said.

I don't understand the hate for her, if you want to hate anything hate the Florida state justice system. Repeal SYG.

The fuck if you can't. My black ass would still be in that box today if I was on that jury. I would have been all kinds of black nigger bitches cause ain't no way you would have gotten me to vote "not guilty." It would not have occurred.

And yet people still wonder how no blacks made it on the jury

cudda sworn the anonymous white juror admitted she thought zim was innocent from the start

that would be the proper state of mind for any juror going into a trial
 
Matt-;6095644 said:
Go figure;6095628 said:
Matt-;6095542 said:
obnoxiouslyfresh;6088408 said:
Batman.;6088372 said:
She's actually right. You can't just vote guilty because that's how you feel. It's that SYG shit.

But you can't just vote not guilty because you feel that he learned his lesson like the last bitch said.

I don't understand the hate for her, if you want to hate anything hate the Florida state justice system. Repeal SYG.

The fuck if you can't. My black ass would still be in that box today if I was on that jury. I would have been all kinds of black nigger bitches cause ain't no way you would have gotten me to vote "not guilty." It would not have occurred.

And yet people still wonder how no blacks made it on the jury

cudda sworn the anonymous white juror admitted she thought zim was innocent from the start

that would be the proper state of mind for any juror going into a trial

but is the person looking close enough to make a decision off of evidence and common sense or are they ignoring everything because they are biased because of their first thought going into the trial?

oh....trayvon wasnt assumed innocent going to his home now was he?
 
UPTOWNCONNEXX;6095031 said:
The Lonious Monk;6092496 said:
UPTOWNCONNEXX;6091749 said:
nigga in oj's case they literally fucked up the physical evidence that would have convicted him ... the hell are you talking about??? LOLOLOL

have you ever heard of the rico act???

link me to this case

you are out of your mind ... that white supremacy complex got you on some we are the world bullshit

What "We are the World" bullshit? So because I pointed out that legally there was no mistake made in this case? And because I've stated that we all know of cases were blacks have gotten off because of bad cases or even good cases due to having money. Nobody said the system was fair. Of course blacks are still getting shitted on. But this "woe is us" bullshit ya'll are trying to pass, acting like no black man ever gets a fair shake is stupid. And the idea, that it's fair for a white person to be done wrong just because black people get done wrong is just as stupid. We should be looking for everyone to be treated justly not hoping that other people will be treated as unjustly as us. Ya'll niggas stay promoting some dumb shit that ain't going to help anybody, blacks included.

there are some obvious holes in this case

fuck you mean wo is us??? youre knit picking my friend .... you really gonna sit here and say "well two black people got off on technicalities so the possiblity is there" bullshit??

if youre watching a basketball game and one team has 40 fouls and the other teams only has 2 or 3, you're really gonna sit here and say "well the ref DID call fouls on both teams"

da fuck do you think about on your free time dude?? LOL

Dog, I don't know what you're talking about, and I don't think you know what you're talking about either.

For the one thousandth time, the prosecution has to prove that Zimmerman was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They did not do that. It doesn't matter that there were holes in Zimmerman's story. The Defense doesn't have to build a bulletproof case. The Prosecution does.

I've never said that the System is fair, so you continually pointing out that it's not is pointless. I'm only saying that the jury finding Zimmerman "Not Guilty" of Murder 2 was the right call. Letting him go on the Manslaughter charge was bad, but the prosecution didn't really prove that. Do a lot of black men get caught up on as much or less proof? Yeah, again no one is arguing that the system is unfair. However, we shouldn't be getting mad when the system works the way it should. We should be getting mad when it doesn't. In other words, it's pointless to be angry about ZM walking on a charge that was bad to begin with. We should be saving our anger for the times when black men are railroaded.

 

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