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_Menace_;2052739 said:Your going to tell me Raiders arent a top 5 team off all time?
They're not top 5. They've had success in their franchise....but they aren't top 5.
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_Menace_;2052739 said:Your going to tell me Raiders arent a top 5 team off all time?
bigrizz;2053197 said:How the Cowboys and bears are ahead of the pats that have actually won this decade is beyond me. San Fran #7????? C'mon son
bow to royalty;2053227 said:You want san fran lower or higher?
bigrizz;2053237 said:Alot lower. Whens the lasst time they made the playoffs? When Jeff garcia was QB????
bigrizz;2053237 said:Alot lower. Whens the lasst time they made the playoffs? When Jeff garcia was QB????
bow to royalty;2053376 said:Ya man. This is since the franchise started. And it counts stuff like fan base, and the Cowboys have a bigger fan base, and better stadium than any other team. Maybe any other team in any American sport. And they had a dynasty, and even though they aren't makin playoff runs right now, they still usually have a good record, and a good team. The Patriots started winning SB's in more recent years, and had the whole spygate incident. Also, if the Pats go like 10 or 15 years (or however long it was) w/o winnin a playoff game like the Cowboys, I'm not sure their fans would keep showin up. Didn't their fans walk out on them at a home game they were losin a couple years ago?
killap;2053285 said:You do realize this is all-time right?
CapitalB;2052897 said:hahaha yeh i make sure i put foot to ass when i play them..
them fucks drafted one of my dudes from NCAA.. AND WILL NOT TRADE HIM! hahaha
and nah.. ud probably win.. matter of fact im sure u would.. i have no defense.. im always sim'n..
En-Fuego22;2053546 said:number 1. Steelers 2. cowboys 3. 49ers 4.packers 5.oakland.... People dont talk about champion prior to the super bowl... They go by the current format which is super bowls
En-Fuego22;2053546 said:number 1. Steelers 2. cowboys 3. 49ers 4.packers 5.oakland.... People dont talk about champion prior to the super bowl... They go by the current format which is super bowls
bow to royalty;2054371 said:I think what's hurting the Raiders is that you gotta count the years of "what the fuck is even goin on with this franchise?" Right now they're a constant rotation of QB's, coaches, and bad draft picks. Then they had one of the best corners in the league, and they let his contract void so he could be gone. So when you're sayin what makes a team top 5, you can't JUST count the the good. You gotta look at the negative too.
hlf;2057437 said:The same can be said about the Skins too even tho we've made the playoffs twice in the 00's. Then take a look at the Eagles who hvnt won shit since the 60's how the hell are they so high with there NFC championship "appearances"?
killap;2053285 said:You do realize this is all-time right?