UFC = Low caliber athletes

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aone415;1678822 said:
Pretty much...

And has anyone ever seen the so-called KO's in MMA??? Dude hits other dude, other dude falls, 1st dude jumps on top and throws 1000 punches on a defenseless man and fight is stopped... stupidest shit ever... especially when only like 3 of those 1000 punches makes it thru the defenseless dude's guard...

MMA is just like every other "extreme sport"... white people cannot dominate or be competitive in the established sports so the 'create' an extreme version of some hobby (skateboarding, snowboarding, BMX, Superbike stunts, etc) and make it a sport. FOH

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eyes low;1678750 said:
so football, soccer, and hockey arent real sports

Football is 70% black. Soccer is 80% ethnic (non-white) and Hockey is... well, Hockey (and I think Hockey is a Canadian word for "who gives a fvck?")
 
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greenwood1921;1678867 said:
Football is 70% black. Soccer is 80% ethnic (non-white) and Hockey is... well, Hockey (and I think Hockey is a Canadian word for "who gives a fvck?")

ok but you said good white players and football and soccer have plenty of good white players. and you guys are acting like its just white ppl in mma theres plenty of black guys and dudes from brazil
 
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T/S and other people co-signing his bs have clearly been huffing paint.

1. The upper echelon UFC fighters are probably on par with any athletes in any other sport.
Lesnar= former D-1 college athlete.
GSP = world class athlete, has received invitations to compete for a spot in the Olympics in wrestling.
Randy Couture= former Olympian.
Dan Henderson = former olympian.

I can continue, but you get the point.

2. Ppl up in here acting like you need to be the greatest athlete in the world to be on a roster in a major sport. Oh yes, because Brian Scalabrine and Eddy Curry are the pinnacle of athleticism. When I think ultra athletes, I clearly think about the likes of CC Sabathia and Jamie Moyer.

And don't fucking get me started on boxing. John Ruiz? Sam Peters? Chris Arreola? Last time I checked, your sport had Nikolai Valuev as a former HW champion. Nikolai fucking Valuev. Nikolai - 7'5 and can barely get out of his own way -Valuev. Don't make me fucking laugh.

2. Even if the average MMA fighter isn't the best athlete right now, they will be in the near future because the sport is still evolving. For the longest time, there has been a huge gap between the top fighters and everyone else. Remember when 5 years ago, ppl thought Chuck Liddell was an MMA master? Just 5 years later, everyone knows he would be eviscerated if he stepped into the octagon with even the middle-tier of MMA fighters. The new school generation of fighters is closing the gap. Look at the meteoric rise of Jon Bones Jones, Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier. And you know the scary part? These are just the fighters who developed into MMA fighters after being wrestlers. We still haven't seen yet fighters who were born and raised practicing full MMA, with the exception of Jose Aldo, who is arguably already p4p the best fighter in the world.
 
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arbitration;1678901 said:
T/S and other people co-signing his bs have clearly been huffing paint.

1. The upper echelon UFC fighters are probably on par with any athletes in any other sport. Lesnar= former D-1 college athlete. GSP = world class athlete, has received invitations to compete for a spot in the Olympics in wrestling. Randy Couture= former Olympian. Dan Henderson = former olympian. I can continue, but you get the point.

2. Ppl up in here acting like you need to be the greatest athlete in the world to be on a roster in a major sport. Oh yes, because Brian Scalabrine and Eddy Curry are the pinnacle of athleticism. When I think ultra athletes, I clearly think about the likes of CC Sabathia and Jamie Moyer.

And don't fucking get me started on boxing. John Ruiz? Sam Peters? Chris Arreola? Last time I checked, your sport had Nikolai Valuev as a former HW champion. Nikolai fucking Valuev. Nikolai - 7'5 and can barely get out of his own way -Valuev. Don't make me fucking laugh.

2. Even if the average MMA fighter isn't the best athlete right now, they will be in the near future because the sport is still evolving. For the longest time, there has been a huge gap between the top fighters and everyone else. Remember when 5 years ago, ppl thought Chuck Liddell was an MMA master? Just 5 years later, everyone knows he would be eviscerated if he stepped into the octagon with even the middle-tier of MMA fighters. The new school generation of fighters is closing the gap. Look at the meteoric rise of Jon Bones Jones, Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier. And you know the scary part? These are just the fighters who developed into MMA fighters after being wrestlers. We still haven't seen yet fighters who were born and raised practicing full MMA, with the exception of Jose Aldo, who is arguably already p4p the best fighter in the world.

couldnt have said it better. these dudes confuse not liking something with it being wack
 
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eyes low;1678750 said:
so football, soccer, and hockey arent real sports

Exactly....that is dumbass ignorant logic...hell in football damn near all the great qbs and all time greats are white
 
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How come all the haters come in here, pop off, and just say more stupid shit instead of trying to refute a rebuttal that pretty much totally shut them down.
 
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arbitration;1678901 said:
T/S and other people co-signing his bs have clearly been huffing paint.

1. The upper echelon UFC fighters are probably on par with any athletes in any other sport.
Lesnar= former D-1 college athlete.
GSP = world class athlete, has received invitations to compete for a spot in the Olympics in wrestling.
Randy Couture= former Olympian.
Dan Henderson = former olympian.

I can continue, but you get the point.

2. Ppl up in here acting like you need to be the greatest athlete in the world to be on a roster in a major sport. Oh yes, because Brian Scalabrine and Eddy Curry are the pinnacle of athleticism. When I think ultra athletes, I clearly think about the likes of CC Sabathia and Jamie Moyer.

And don't fucking get me started on boxing. John Ruiz? Sam Peters? Chris Arreola? Last time I checked, your sport had Nikolai Valuev as a former HW champion. Nikolai fucking Valuev. Nikolai - 7'5 and can barely get out of his own way -Valuev. Don't make me fucking laugh.

2. Even if the average MMA fighter isn't the best athlete right now, they will be in the near future because the sport is still evolving. For the longest time, there has been a huge gap between the top fighters and everyone else. Remember when 5 years ago, ppl thought Chuck Liddell was an MMA master? Just 5 years later, everyone knows he would be eviscerated if he stepped into the octagon with even the middle-tier of MMA fighters. The new school generation of fighters is closing the gap. Look at the meteoric rise of Jon Bones Jones, Cain Velasquez, Daniel Cormier. And you know the scary part? These are just the fighters who developed into MMA fighters after being wrestlers. We still haven't seen yet fighters who were born and raised practicing full MMA, with the exception of Jose Aldo, who is arguably already p4p the best fighter in the world.

damn well said........

and until you actually compete on the highest level i dont see how you can criticize or judge another athlete or fighter about there physical ability...

and lol i knew the race factor was going to come in lollll
 
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MMA is still growing sport, but to say they are not athletes is stupid. Alot of MMA guys are accomplished wrestlers from D-1 schools and/or olympians, highly skilled martial artists. As far as washed up athletes comment is silly because some of them have failed at their 1st sport doesn't mean nothing, alot those guys trained for years to even make it to the top level. Look at Johnnie Morton, he thought he could be a MMA fighter after trainning for a month, or Kimbo Slice, and James Toney. LOL Its not even a white sport, blacks, latinos, and Brazilians are on top or on the come up (i.e Jon Jones). Only problem in MMA is the Judging.

I like Boxing too, problem is with boxing is they don't stack quality cards for their shows, like MMA cards. The top fighters fight once or twice a year, and duck each other whether its because they feel that one opponent won't draw money or they afraid to lose.
 
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This guy must be really fucking stupid... how can you honestly sit there and say that MMA fighters are not athletic? The majority of MMA fighters are superiority athletic, Let take GSP, for example. This guy athleticism is of the charts literately, let me see you do what he can by lifting a man of the ground with both hands and slam him in the ground viciously sideways. Let me see your ass, coming out of a well put and strong kimora submission. If I was to say Jordan wasn't athletic, your ass would of been hopping screaming like goddamn grasshopper..

This isn't a new topic, but just something that has gained ground (again). People have debated who would win a fight between a Martial Artist and a Boxer for a long time. Back in the day, people debated whether Bruce Lee could beat Muhammad Ali in a fight. MMA and Boxing are two totally different sports. Just because they fight in a ring doesn't make them the same. MMA is good for what it is. It takes less time out of your day and better chance of a knockout. That's what people miss about boxing.
 
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Damn this dude be trolling hard as fuck some of yall just ignorant SMMFH @ white dudes had to make it extreme. LMAO @ RJJ dominating with one year of wrestling yall niggas need to commit dat
 
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htowntx;1677846 said:
U ethered your own argument when u used lesnar as an example

Dude was 27 when he tried out for the vikings, dude didnt even play high school or college balll and hr still was a late cut.

What about cats who play football their whole lives and dont even make it lmao

You just compared UFC's cream of the crop to someone who didn't even make the NFL.
 
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arbitration;1678901 said:
1. The upper echelon UFC fighters are probably on par with any athletes in any other sport.
Lesnar= former D-1 college athlete.
GSP = world class athlete, has received invitations to compete for a spot in the Olympics in wrestling.
Randy Couture= former Olympian.
Dan Henderson = former olympian.

Couture competed in UFC mainly in his upper 30's/early 40's. He was far past his athletic prime in the Octagon.

GSP isnt world class. Receiving an invitation to TRY OUT, and actually competing in the Olympics are two different things. I'll believe it when I see it. Just because he can do a lil Backflip that doesnt make him a world class athlete. Even so, with all his athleticism, his most popular way of winning is holding on and dry humping the shit out of his opponent for 25 minutes. LOSS for the sport of MMA]. That's the best your most athletic fighter can do???? Seriously?!?

Lesnar - D1 college athlete who was AWAY FROM REAL SPORTS for numerous years. Comes into UFC with MINIMUM stand up training, and rusty Wrestling skills, and dominated.

Yes there are some exceptions when it comes to athleticsm in MMA. But it is very very rare. And look at the type of bums they compete against: Kimbo Slice, Chris Leben, Tim Sylvia, Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, Roy Nelson... heck even 40+ year old Ken Shamrock was headlining UFC events not too long ago.
 
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Will Munny;1677262 said:
Did you know Brock Lesnar was asked to play in the European Football league to develop but declined? If you don't think Brock Lesnar is a freak athlete you're basically retarded.

European League Football... you talking about european league football like it means something. C'mon man. Whats next an Arena League WR is just as athletic as any NFL WR?

If Brock Lesnar is an athletic freak, I'd like to see what Ndomakong Suh, Julius Peppers, Mario Williams, Haloti Ngata would do in the Octagon. Theyre all stronger, faster, and better endurance.

Rampage is a freak athlete too, he could have easily played DI football, and he has more tha "a couple years" of ametuer wrestling. You discredit yourself not even knowing that.
Are you kidding?

Rampage is a lazy ass BUM. He isn't fast at all. Horrible reflexes. Blocks punches with his head because he lacks hand-eye coordination (watch Wanderlei-Rampage II if you dont believe me)

He's strong, but then again so are a million other people. Rampage is 215-220lbs at his prime weight. You think he couldve played D1 football? The fuck outta here!! What position does a slow 215lbs guy play in Football? None.
 
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Former MMA Champions and Main Eventers.... this is what you call ATHLETIC!!!

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^Was UFC Champion for a very long time.. Pathetic and a disgrace to the sport

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Fedor.... my favorite fighter. But C'mon now lets be real. He almost lost to Mark Hunt (untrained MMA fighter) and Fujita (professional wrestler in Japan). As good as Fedor is, he's lucky that his generation of fighters doesnt have any real beasts in his division other than maybe Prime Cro Cop.

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As someone who relied mainly on stand up, Chuck would've got KO'd in 30 seconds by any boxer.

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SMH
 
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KINGOFDAARCADE;1682415 said:
Former MMA Champions and Main Eventers.... this is what you call ATHLETIC!!!

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^Was UFC Champion for a very long time.. Pathetic and a disgrace to the sport

fedor.jpg


Fedor.... my favorite fighter. But C'mon now lets be real. He almost lost to Mark Hunt (untrained MMA fighter) and Fujita (professional wrestler in Japan). As good as Fedor is, he's lucky that his generation of fighters doesnt have any real beasts in his division other than maybe Prime Cro Cop.

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As someone who relied mainly on stand up, Chuck would've got KO'd in 30 seconds by any boxer.

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SMH

AHAHHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA

This post is truth.

Ay bruh post that pic of the faggot who beat up Kimbo Slice, no homillz.

I think his name is Seth Petruzeli that nigga is literally a flaming homosexual, and he was a champ.

What the fuck?

A gay cracker off the street man?

Disgusting.
 
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Why doesnt a boxer enter the UFC as a pure out and out boxer? Like no ground game whatsoever, but relies on a pure, clinical, technique driven hand game to knock dudes out before they can shoot? Not hating on boxing or MMA, just think that it would be interesting to see. Has there been? Is there any legal or gaming reason that can't happen?
 
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