U.N.S. The Education on Tommy Sotomayor.

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Stopitfive;6547235 said:
One book published in 1998 isn't enough evidence to refute the many studies to the contrary.

Charles Darwin had one book out that spoke of his studies that eventually became widely accepted in the scientific community too...

its not the only book that puts forth the same philosophy Ruth tried to prove either....

fuck u for distracting me from writing this paper on Correctional Program Assessment.

I found a meta-analysis that supports the notion that parent impact educational achievement. This is just an illustration of how parenting effects one area of a child's life. An important area at that.

Abstract:

A meta-analysis was undertaken, including 21 studies, to determine the impact of parental in- volvement on the academic achievement of minority children. Statistical analyses were under- taken to determine the overall effects of parental involvement obtained for each study as well as specific components of parental involvement. Four different measures of academic achievement were used. The possible differing effects of parental involvement by gender and socioeconomic status were also considered. The results indicate that the impact of parental involvement overall is significant for all the minority groups under study. For all groups, parental involvement, as a whole, affected all the academic variables under study by at least two tenths of a standard devia- tion unit. However, among some of the races, certain aspects of parental involvement had a greater impact than did others. The significance of these results is discussed.

for the article google:

A META-ANALYSIS

The Effects of Parental

Involvement on Minority

Children’s Academic Achievement

WILLIAM H. JEYNES

California State University, Long Beach

 
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desertrain10;6547497 said:
Stopitfive;6546947 said:
desertrain10;6546840 said:
stopitfive;545956 said:
desertrain10;6545930 said:
Stopirretfive;64774 said:
So it's cool to father children and not raise them because of criminal justice inj7ustices?

And tommy makes it worse by making unfunny videos?

Huh? Lol...when did I say that?

Here's a better question... has the prison industrial complex done a hell of a job breaking apart the black family? Yes or no?

Dude make videos that perpetuating negative stereotypes, that offer little to no plausible solutions to the matter at hand...that sounds helpful to you?

Of course it has. That's one issue.

Shall we ignore personal responsibility all together?

Is it the prison industrial complex that makes two low lives create a life and not parent it?

Shall we never discuss human agency?

....

Self accountability is important...and there are is a lot of bad parents out there...but there are a lot of bad non blk parents out there so what does that have to do with the racial disparities that exist?

ineffective parenting ➡️ deviance. why should we point the finger at bad white parents when our issue is bad black parents?

And let's not act like society's influence is much larger and stronger than any parents at times

parents are the number one agent of socialization. y'all can't refute this.

Also how realistic is it to expect poorly educated, highly stressed parents, often themselves poorly reared, to just up and change without any sort of help or guidance for outside forces

how realistic is it to expect someone else clean your mess? outside forces cannot be the focus. we need to clean house. how we look always waiting for a savior? we need to step the fuck up and clean up our own mess.

Anyways, i put more so the blame for the state of the blk community on the blk folk who live in the suburbs and jump at the chance to criticize niggas than I do the "low lifes"... why not go back to your old neighborhood to help rebuild and mentor at risk youth instead of continuing on with this lynch mob mentality

Im from the hood. hood niggas know a lowlife is a lowlife. how you gonna blame motherfuckers in the suburbs for your fuck ups?

I'll concede that the movement of "decent folks" away from the hood is a part of the problem. at some point, the hood needs to self police. waiting for everyone else to help is some loser shit.

most the problems unique to the blk community can be traced back to systematic inequality i.e. the racial disparities that exist in healthcare, housing, wealth, prison sentencing, etc ...so again what does bad parenting in the blk community have to do with a judge sentencing jerome a blk man to 2 years in prison, while only sentencing tim a white man to probation even though they both have no priors and committed the same offense

are you saying we should just accept our place in society and stress to our kids strive to be perfect, as if many blk parents aren't already doing as much...and you can't dismiss the power of societal forces, as well as peer pressure, on children either

i know i did things i wouldn't want my parents knowing about....thank god these mistakes didn't cost me my chance at a future like so many other blk youth

not saying good parenting isn't important, however the aforementioned challenges and those posed by bad tax policy, the off shoring of jobs, the war on drugs, failures in education policy, poor gun control policies, and global economic reform can’t be solved simply by good parenting... its going to take a lot more than that

we continue to ignore the root of our problems the cycle will continue on and on...

my point is that all those things are relevant, however, inequality and oppression do not free us from our personal responsibility.

in the face of all those hardships the majority of blacks are decent law abiding citizens. the loud minority of deviants need to be taken to task.

we must fight injustice as well as take accountability.

better parents, stronger communities. we cannot overcome systematic racism by complaint about it alone.

one solution to the communities issues is rebuilding the family. niggas need to raise their kids. bitches need to stop letting multiple bums skeet skeet. gawd damn.
 
gorilla;6547296 said:
1. Soto does tell the truth. It's harsh and ugly but there's truth to it. A many of black women unfortunately fit the exact profile he's talking about and in return are the same ones that get so bent out of shape by what he's saying. If he where talkin bout black men, they'd be cosigning him to death. But I don't like the fact that he says "black women" a lot as if to generalize. Yeah he says he doesn't mean all black women, but that's only after he's said a bunch of "black women"s. I don't agree with that. Not every sista is like that and let's keep the focus on where it belongs, on these trifilin ass bitches.

2. We cant get shit resolved cuz we refuse to address issues right before our eyes. It's always an excuse for an ain't shit bitch. This has to stop. Fuck all the "shaming won't help" or "don't judge" bullshit, it's some hoes out here that need to run into a brick wall. We done beat up on niggaz do death, wtf else can we blame on black men that ain't been said already? Let's be real, who raised all these ain't shit men? With that in mind, the black men out here fuckin up deserve no cake walk either, but for every black man thats fuckin up, there's a black woman (or women) lettin him dig them out raw.

3. Welfare done made us lazy as shit. It's a fact, black folk ain't productive unless they're struggling. Ever since there's been less to come together and fight for, black folk done sat around and waited for them checks. And let's stop ignoring the fact that as high as the poverty rate is for us, black folk stay spending money on shit they don't need and can't afford. We see it every damn day, but then some of us wanna front like it's a minor problem. Stop

stop

there's hundreds of studies (google, lazy) that do not support the view that public assistance programs significantly reduces the incentive to work... mainly because there is no real incentive for a lazy person to not work and collect a check... so i really don't know where you get this idea that welfare has made us lazy, besides maybe talk radio and your own limited personal observations

generally people turn to the government because they cannot get jobs that pay a living wage, not because they are pathologically dependent on handouts or unusually reluctant to work

with the news of mconalds an walmart, two of america's largest employers, encouraging their workers to file for foodstamps and other forms of aid, i don't see how you continue to live in this bubble lol

rest of your post is one broad generalization after another

 
desertrain10;6547565 said:
gorilla;6547296 said:
1. Soto does tell the truth. It's harsh and ugly but there's truth to it. A many of black women unfortunately fit the exact profile he's talking about and in return are the same ones that get so bent out of shape by what he's saying. If he where talkin bout black men, they'd be cosigning him to death. But I don't like the fact that he says "black women" a lot as if to generalize. Yeah he says he doesn't mean all black women, but that's only after he's said a bunch of "black women"s. I don't agree with that. Not every sista is like that and let's keep the focus on where it belongs, on these trifilin ass bitches.

2. We cant get shit resolved cuz we refuse to address issues right before our eyes. It's always an excuse for an ain't shit bitch. This has to stop. Fuck all the "shaming won't help" or "don't judge" bullshit, it's some hoes out here that need to run into a brick wall. We done beat up on niggaz do death, wtf else can we blame on black men that ain't been said already? Let's be real, who raised all these ain't shit men? With that in mind, the black men out here fuckin up deserve no cake walk either, but for every black man thats fuckin up, there's a black woman (or women) lettin him dig them out raw.

3. Welfare done made us lazy as shit. It's a fact, black folk ain't productive unless they're struggling. Ever since there's been less to come together and fight for, black folk done sat around and waited for them checks. And let's stop ignoring the fact that as high as the poverty rate is for us, black folk stay spending money on shit they don't need and can't afford. We see it every damn day, but then some of us wanna front like it's a minor problem. Stop

stop

there's hundreds of studies (google, lazy) that do not support the view that public assistance programs significantly reduces the incentive to work... mainly because there is no real incentive for a lazy person to not work and collect a check... so i really don't know where you get this idea that welfare has made us lazy, besides maybe talk radio and your own limited personal observations

generally people turn to the government because they cannot get jobs that pay a living wage, not because they are pathologically dependent on handouts or unusually reluctant to work

with the news of mconalds an walmart, two of america's largest employers, encouraging their workers to file for foodstamps and other forms of aid, i don't see how you continue to live in this bubble lol

rest of your post is one broad generalization after another

I tell you man, everytime this fucking broad speaks, I can hear flies and shit falling out of her mouth.

 
Dr.Chemix;6547747 said:
This wack ass nigga nosigned my post on some justice league platinum cape wearing saving lois lane type shit...

Wrong.

I no signed your post because shorty had a point and all you could do was say some nut ass shit. I specifically recall in this very thread you speaking against that type of nonsense. How could I not give you a no sign?

This is what you said ...

Dr.ChemixDr.Chemix Posts: 9,441

December 3 edited December 3

It never fails. When we have someone on this forum bring up a good valid point that is worth considering, you have monkeys jumping off the branches to confuse and to ultimately shatter the point by silly ass selfish viewpoints that have nothing to do with wisdom or common sense that basically highlights the original opinion's worth. It turns into who can throw the most shade at someone.

You on some hypocrite shit B.
 
This nigga named Tommy keeps popping up on this site for some reason... fuck it... time for me to see what this nigga bout....

...Yo, this nigga name is like the second thing recommended on youtube...

...LOL... this nigga dogging women to the fifth power... Ah, yeah, he definitely got some issues with black chicks.

I don't know if it's tough lough love (.... LOL...) him being bitter, or his mama ain't shit. Maybe all of the above. There's truth to the bigger picture of what he's saying, but he definitely comes off as a hater of black women. This nigga personal life fucking up his delivery. He finna be like Ron Isley singing bout getting cheated on for his audio life.
 
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CoonKillaThird;6547758 said:
Dr.Chemix;6547747 said:
This wack ass nigga nosigned my post on some justice league platinum cape wearing saving lois lane type shit...

Wrong.

I no signed your post because shorty had a point and all you could do was say some nut ass shit. I specifically recall in this very thread you speaking against that type of nonsense. How could I not give you a no sign?

This is what you said ...

Dr.ChemixDr.Chemix Posts: 9,441

December 3 edited December 3

It never fails. When we have someone on this forum bring up a good valid point that is worth considering, you have monkeys jumping off the branches to confuse and to ultimately shatter the point by silly ass selfish viewpoints that have nothing to do with wisdom or common sense that basically highlights the original opinion's worth. It turns into who can throw the most shade at someone.

You on some hypocrite shit B.

I know what I said. That opinion holds true for smart maphukas making a point. In which I was talking about @stopitfive making some valid points to consider.

That fucking bird is dumb as fuck. You thinking she has valid points only makes you look just as dumb as she is.

And you out here agreeing with her bullshit? How come the real knows she is a bird brain besides you?

And really, what is the point she making? Yea nigga, I know you will be rereading her post trying to turn shit biscuits into golden nuggets. Naw nigga, it won't work.

 
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Dr.Chemix;6547804 said:
CoonKillaThird;6547758 said:
Dr.Chemix;6547747 said:
This wack ass nigga nosigned my post on some justice league platinum cape wearing saving lois lane type shit...

Wrong.

I no signed your post because shorty had a point and all you could do was say some nut ass shit. I specifically recall in this very thread you speaking against that type of nonsense. How could I not give you a no sign?

This is what you said ...

Dr.ChemixDr.Chemix Posts: 9,441

December 3 edited December 3

It never fails. When we have someone on this forum bring up a good valid point that is worth considering, you have monkeys jumping off the branches to confuse and to ultimately shatter the point by silly ass selfish viewpoints that have nothing to do with wisdom or common sense that basically highlights the original opinion's worth. It turns into who can throw the most shade at someone.

You on some hypocrite shit B.

I know what I said. That opinion holds true for smart maphukas making a point. In which I was talking about @stopitfive making some valid points to consider.

That fucking bird is dumb as fuck. You thinking she has valid points only makes you look just as dumb as she is.

And you out here agreeing with her bullshit? How come the real knows she is a bird brain besides you?

And really, what is the point she making? Yea nigga, I know you will be rereading her post trying to turn shit biscuits into golden nuggets. Naw nigga, it won't work.

It aint all that serious bruh. You got a no sign cuz she had a good point weather you agreed with it or not.

"You're dumb...you're stupid", "The real know", nigga I don't know or give a fuck about none of y'all. What y'all in here taking sides?

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Nigga nah. KYS
 
CoonKillaThird;6547812 said:
Dr.Chemix;6547804 said:
CoonKillaThird;6547758 said:
Dr.Chemix;6547747 said:
This wack ass nigga nosigned my post on some justice league platinum cape wearing saving lois lane type shit...

Wrong.

I no signed your post because shorty had a point and all you could do was say some nut ass shit. I specifically recall in this very thread you speaking against that type of nonsense. How could I not give you a no sign?

This is what you said ...

Dr.ChemixDr.Chemix Posts: 9,441

December 3 edited December 3

It never fails. When we have someone on this forum bring up a good valid point that is worth considering, you have monkeys jumping off the branches to confuse and to ultimately shatter the point by silly ass selfish viewpoints that have nothing to do with wisdom or common sense that basically highlights the original opinion's worth. It turns into who can throw the most shade at someone.

You on some hypocrite shit B.

I know what I said. That opinion holds true for smart maphukas making a point. In which I was talking about @stopitfive making some valid points to consider.

That fucking bird is dumb as fuck. You thinking she has valid points only makes you look just as dumb as she is.

And you out here agreeing with her bullshit? How come the real knows she is a bird brain besides you?

And really, what is the point she making? Yea nigga, I know you will be rereading her post trying to turn shit biscuits into golden nuggets. Naw nigga, it won't work.

It aint all that serious bruh. You got a no sign cuz she had a good point weather you agreed with it or not.

"You're dumb...you're stupid", "The real know", nigga I don't know or give a fuck about none of y'all. What y'all in here taking sides?

doesnt_aproove_medium.gif


Nigga nah. KYS

Now "it ain't all that serious bruh". Now "I don't give a fuck about none of y'all" Now "yall in here taking sides"

So I guess you tried turning shit biscuits into golden nuggets and realized it couldn't work, huh?

The problem with you and DT just boils down to selfish ass reasons.

What she says is nothing more than diversionary so she can get pats on her back.

What you said was nothing more than wanna be g shit so you won't look like a fool out here.

Niggas don't think large enough and beyond themselves...hence why we got so many problems today.

 
@byefelicia and @taeboo @amann @stopitfive @coonkillathird

wether its tommy sotomayor or the dude in the OP , nobody hold the complete truth. They both got some valid points in their vids.

The ongoing debate gives Tommy some valid points : as soon as you criticize the illnesses of black community you are labeled a coon, an angry guy , ugly, a agent of the white supremacists. I thought that America was the homeland of freedom of speech.

@byefelicia @taeboo the one who Truly loves you has to be your biggest critic because he wants you to advance. Beware of the people who say that you re perfect, that our community is perfect, that obesity is thick healthy and beautiful : they dont love you.

Sotomayor doesnt gain millins and shoe deals with his rants. His familly is threatened, he might one day get shot one day at this rate. Instead of taking the easy road of hypocrisy, he has chosen to wear the finger pointer cap for some of us to wake the fuck up.

I have black sistas and year ago i was act like this guy whenever i heard them expressing their dislike for their color and hair subliminally. I was recieving the same responses as Tommy . Now they are proud and respected women who dont suffer from the ongoing outcome of slavery and segregation : we dont like ourselves, we cannot communicate quietly, critism is hating, being healthy is acting white, being intelligent is acting white.

Whe should start to look at the message not the speaker. We have to open our eyes even if its hard. We owe that to our children. Earth doesnt belong to us its for our heirs. And as far as our black community, we have to do our best to give them more pscychologic strenght, less junk food, more knowledge , less guns.

We have to stand our ground, not burning ours ourselves.
 
desertrain10;6547565 said:
gorilla;6547296 said:
1. Soto does tell the truth. It's harsh and ugly but there's truth to it. A many of black women unfortunately fit the exact profile he's talking about and in return are the same ones that get so bent out of shape by what he's saying. If he where talkin bout black men, they'd be cosigning him to death. But I don't like the fact that he says "black women" a lot as if to generalize. Yeah he says he doesn't mean all black women, but that's only after he's said a bunch of "black women"s. I don't agree with that. Not every sista is like that and let's keep the focus on where it belongs, on these trifilin ass bitches.

2. We cant get shit resolved cuz we refuse to address issues right before our eyes. It's always an excuse for an ain't shit bitch. This has to stop. Fuck all the "shaming won't help" or "don't judge" bullshit, it's some hoes out here that need to run into a brick wall. We done beat up on niggaz do death, wtf else can we blame on black men that ain't been said already? Let's be real, who raised all these ain't shit men? With that in mind, the black men out here fuckin up deserve no cake walk either, but for every black man thats fuckin up, there's a black woman (or women) lettin him dig them out raw.

3. Welfare done made us lazy as shit. It's a fact, black folk ain't productive unless they're struggling. Ever since there's been less to come together and fight for, black folk done sat around and waited for them checks. And let's stop ignoring the fact that as high as the poverty rate is for us, black folk stay spending money on shit they don't need and can't afford. We see it every damn day, but then some of us wanna front like it's a minor problem. Stop

stop

there's hundreds of studies (google, lazy) that do not support the view that public assistance programs significantly reduces the incentive to work... mainly because there is no real incentive for a lazy person to not work and collect a check... so i really don't know where you get this idea that welfare has made us lazy, besides maybe talk radio and your own limited personal observations

generally people turn to the government because they cannot get jobs that pay a living wage, not because they are pathologically dependent on handouts or unusually reluctant to work

with the news of mconalds an walmart, two of america's largest employers, encouraging their workers to file for foodstamps and other forms of aid, i don't see how you continue to live in this bubble lol

rest of your post is one broad generalization after another

Go sit down somewhere. You are the last person on here to talk about generalization when you are quick to generalize people when it fits your nonsense arguments

You stay failing at your weak ass google stats. How many times you gotta be exposed for posting some irrelevent, flawed so called studies and statistics? Like that bulshit ass "study" you tried to pass of as truth when it turns out it was the 70's from a nutcase. Google aint necessarily your friend. You dont dig deep enough to accurately support your stances.

You 've proven time and time again that you support a bird ass victim mentality and a drawn out exchange with you is like talking to a wall.

 
Dr.Chemix;6547830 said:
CoonKillaThird;6547812 said:
Dr.Chemix;6547804 said:
CoonKillaThird;6547758 said:
Dr.Chemix;6547747 said:
This wack ass nigga nosigned my post on some justice league platinum cape wearing saving lois lane type shit...

Wrong.

I no signed your post because shorty had a point and all you could do was say some nut ass shit. I specifically recall in this very thread you speaking against that type of nonsense. How could I not give you a no sign?

This is what you said ...

Dr.ChemixDr.Chemix Posts: 9,441

December 3 edited December 3

It never fails. When we have someone on this forum bring up a good valid point that is worth considering, you have monkeys jumping off the branches to confuse and to ultimately shatter the point by silly ass selfish viewpoints that have nothing to do with wisdom or common sense that basically highlights the original opinion's worth. It turns into who can throw the most shade at someone.

You on some hypocrite shit B.

I know what I said. That opinion holds true for smart maphukas making a point. In which I was talking about @stopitfive making some valid points to consider.

That fucking bird is dumb as fuck. You thinking she has valid points only makes you look just as dumb as she is.

And you out here agreeing with her bullshit? How come the real knows she is a bird brain besides you?

And really, what is the point she making? Yea nigga, I know you will be rereading her post trying to turn shit biscuits into golden nuggets. Naw nigga, it won't work.

It aint all that serious bruh. You got a no sign cuz she had a good point weather you agreed with it or not.

"You're dumb...you're stupid", "The real know", nigga I don't know or give a fuck about none of y'all. What y'all in here taking sides?

doesnt_aproove_medium.gif


Nigga nah. KYS

Now "it ain't all that serious bruh". Now "I don't give a fuck about none of y'all" Now "yall in here taking sides"

So I guess you tried turning shit biscuits into golden nuggets and realized it couldn't work, huh?

The problem with you and DT just boils down to selfish ass reasons.

What she says is nothing more than diversionary so she can get pats on her back.

What you said was nothing more than wanna be g shit so you won't look like a fool out here.

Niggas don't think large enough and beyond themselves...hence why we got so many problems today.

What?

Man we can be on the same page...we can agree...or we can not agree... I'm for the people. Anybody that's for the people is cool wit me. If you're about tearing other motherfuckers down to build up your own ego then you're a lame, and I don't fuck wit you.

You come out the gate wit all this captain save a hoe shit when I didn't even know that was a female till you said so. If you and her have previous problems that's something different. I called it how I saw it, and I still feel you were doing what you had asked others not to.

Moving along bruh.
 
I listened to him years ago.

I think the topic was the ATL mall cop that tasered a and kicked out a couple of black people.

When he went in on Jill Scott for her interview in Ebony/Essence, I never took him serious and I say the same to anyone else.

He did have a good interview with Tariq Nasheed though.
 
lemzola;6547834 said:
@byefelicia and @taeboo @amann @stopitfive @coonkillathird

wether its tommy sotomayor or the dude in the OP , nobody hold the complete truth. They both got some valid points in their vids.

The ongoing debate gives Tommy some valid points : as soon as you criticize the illnesses of black community you are labeled a coon, an angry guy , ugly, a agent of the white supremacists. I thought that America was the homeland of freedom of speech.

@byefelicia @taeboo the one who Truly loves you has to be your biggest critic because he wants you to advance. Beware of the people who say that you re perfect, that our community is perfect, that obesity is thick healthy and beautiful : they dont love you.

Sotomayor doesnt gain millins and shoe deals with his rants. His familly is threatened, he might one day get shot one day at this rate. Instead of taking the easy road of hypocrisy, he has chosen to wear the finger pointer cap for some of us to wake the fuck up.

I have black sistas and year ago i was act like this guy whenever i heard them expressing their dislike for their color and hair subliminally. I was recieving the same responses as Tommy . Now they are proud and respected women who dont suffer from the ongoing outcome of slavery and segregation : we dont like ourselves, we cannot communicate quietly, critism is hating, being healthy is acting white, being intelligent is acting white.

Whe should start to look at the message not the speaker. We have to open our eyes even if its hard. We owe that to our children. Earth doesnt belong to us its for our heirs. And as far as our black community, we have to do our best to give them more pscychologic strenght, less junk food, more knowledge , less guns.

We have to stand our ground, not burning ours ourselves.

@Lemzola

These are my words from this very thread.

[/quote]

Your anger may inspire you to take action, changing the mind set of some or many.

We want to do better as a race. We can't do that unless we hold each other acountable.

We need to reprogram the mind set of the youth, but we can't do that if nobody gives a fuck.


[/quote]

Now it's one thing to hold one another accountable, we were great at doing just that back back in the day. You can let someone know that the shit they are doing is not cool without making them feel empty and worthless. What Tommy is doing is only serving his own ego bruh. Sometimes a message can come across as hateful or loving depending on how it's delivered.

I actually had words with this dude. He said that light skin looked better than dark skin. Just like that... he aint say in his opinion or that that was his preference, but that it was just that and black women should deal with it. This dude has a dark skinned daughter...how the fuck she supposed to feel when she sees that video in a few years? That's not what real niggas do. So yeah, dude is entitled to say whatever he wants and those who see through that shit are entitled to say this nigga is a fraud. He is not making people want to change for the better. He is creating division and hate amongst the people.

Listen to a Farakhan speach... that is how you talk to the people. You don't tell your kids I hate you and I hope you die, you're all ugly and expect for that to somehow make them better. This nigga Tommy got y'all fooled.
 

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