Tyler, The Creator Takes A Big Shot At 50 Cent While Discussing Nostalgia

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Sion;8541075 said:
And he does have a point about people being "stuck" in a type of thinking. Niggas won't give Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Flacko, or a lot of these new artists their own lane because they're comparing a generation of music to another when most of their fans never even grew up on 90s rap and are more influenced by the 50s, Jays, Kanyes, Eminems, Outkasts, D-Block, Dipset, etc. I can understand his frustration, Vince Staples spoke on it and niggas lit him on fire. Niggas are scared to let go of the past. I know cats personally who are quick to shit on Hip-Hop today saying it'll never be like the 90s and their missing all this good music today.

Rap is entering a second childhood, 2012 to now so far has been a golden era in rap with some of the most prolific and amazing albums dropping. 2015 alone might be the best year in Hip-Hop in a decade, but you can't tell people that because they have their heads up their asses.

nigga please. you sound crazy
 
Not sure i agree with tyler, got to remember that prior to the shady deal, 50 was going after main stream rappers saying stuff like "if your commercial ill hurt cha" and making street music

get rich or die tryin came out and he had songs like in da club or pimp which werent like anything he was doing before, "go ahead and switch your style up, and if they hate then let em hate and watch the money pile up"

Then he morphed into singing hooks and making songs like ayo technology...im not saying all of this like its a good thing, i actually wish he stayed with his guess whos back gritty style

His success with grodt might have been detrimental to his long term music career while aiding in his business career

 
YaseewhatImsayin, *wipes corner of mouth,* it's all about the space I'm in and the agressive content. See, look, Yayo can go triple tin foil, but the marketing dollars don't add up to what could've been. YaseewhatImsaying.
 
ThaNubianGod;8541133 said:
Sion;8541075 said:
Rap is entering a second childhood, 2012 to now so far has been a golden era in rap with some of the most prolific and amazing albums dropping. 2015 alone might be the best year in Hip-Hop in a decade, but you can't tell people that because they have their heads up their asses.

The fuck? The current state of hiphop is garbage. It died way back when the South tookover, and has been nothing but gimmicks and a few quality artists since then

1) You could take a D-list rapper from the 90's, and they would dominate this era. You could take a Top rapper from the current era, and they would be lucky to even get a deal in the 90's....well maybe at No Limit.

2) Props to Kendrick, you can tell he's been guide by an old head. But outside of him, you really don't see quality artists much at all.

3) Whatever happened to rap groups?

4) You know it's bad when there are no female rappers outside of Nikki Minaj, who's trash

Shut up nigga
 
You think he actually cares or is he just making albums for the sake of it?

Seems as if his hustle is businesses, not music anymore. His heart ain't in it.
 
BenjaminE;8540863 said:
Mr.LV;8540528 said:
The obvious moment is when 50 Cent Curtis album and Kanye West Graduation album dropped you was able to see kanye west growth as artist from late registration to Graduation with experimenting with different sounds like Stronger and Flashing lights with 50 Cent he stuck with the same formula from the massacre to Curtis for the most part, he did do that song ayo Technology and amusement park which was very different from his previous work but he played it safe for the rest of the album.

Amusement Park is Magic Stick pt 2...

Nah he did magic stick part 2 with lil Kim already
 
cherry bomb is trash because of the production, tyler tried to go all out alternative and failed miserably.

50 does release the same bullshit over and over tho.
 
I think cherry bomb is good

I think drake has shown artistic development

I think fifty has been putting out the same aggressive content over Dre sounding overproduced beats with loud synths since 2003

I'm out
 
Sion;8541232 said:
Yall have to give it time so you can reflect back on the times. It's not like niggas in the 90s KNEW they were in a golden era until later. Niggas were saying the same things yall saying. Imagine cats reacting when you said NaS, Biggie, Wu-Tang was the GOATs when they came up on LL Cool J, G Rap, Rakim, BDK, Ultramagnetic MCs, Beastie Boys, KRS-One/BDP, Kool Moe Dee, etc. People constantly comparing the two makes it hard to appreciate the new and have their music heard and appreciated for the art it is. Hell 5 Grand still get mad LOLOLOL. It's not much different when you bring up Kanye, Lupe, Wayne, Drake, Cole, Kendrick and others. Not to take away from Pac, Big, Hov, NaS, etc. but somethings you gotta let grow. So I get where Tyler The Creator is coming from.

Hip-Hop is in an AMAZING space right now and it's only going to get better. IMO we're entering or at the premature stage of a second childhood/golden era in rap. But yall gotta let go of nostalgia and peep some of this new music before quickly denying them.

Gtfoh. Hip Hop is horrible right now on a mainstream level at least. From the Fisher Price beats, chicks with fake asses rapping like they're cartoon characters, grown men dressing like bitches, drill zombie music, pill popping emotional ass niggas, mush-mouth flow ass niggas with elementary rhymes over auto tune. You sound like a sleazy used-car salesman.
 
dwade206;8541343 said:
Sion;8541232 said:
Yall have to give it time so you can reflect back on the times. It's not like niggas in the 90s KNEW they were in a golden era until later. Niggas were saying the same things yall saying. Imagine cats reacting when you said NaS, Biggie, Wu-Tang was the GOATs when they came up on LL Cool J, G Rap, Rakim, BDK, Ultramagnetic MCs, Beastie Boys, KRS-One/BDP, Kool Moe Dee, etc. People constantly comparing the two makes it hard to appreciate the new and have their music heard and appreciated for the art it is. Hell 5 Grand still get mad LOLOLOL. It's not much different when you bring up Kanye, Lupe, Wayne, Drake, Cole, Kendrick and others. Not to take away from Pac, Big, Hov, NaS, etc. but somethings you gotta let grow. So I get where Tyler The Creator is coming from.

Hip-Hop is in an AMAZING space right now and it's only going to get better. IMO we're entering or at the premature stage of a second childhood/golden era in rap. But yall gotta let go of nostalgia and peep some of this new music before quickly denying them.

Gtfoh. Hip Hop is horrible right now on a mainstream level at least. From the Fisher Price beats, chicks with fake asses rapping like they're cartoon characters, grown men dressing like bitches, drill zombie music, pill popping emotional ass niggas, mush-mouth flow ass niggas with elementary rhymes over auto tune. You sound like a sleazy used-car salesman.

Thanks for posting this bruh just what I wanted to say but didnt feel like typing it.
 
gemini86;8540923 said:
hes saying he doesnt want that to happen to him but hasnt even made an album that critically acclaimed better than 50s albums. Some rappers are just who they are. i dont see anyone trying to discredit nas. you know what youre gonna get when u buy his album. same with Drake, wayne, ross, meek, nicki, fabolous, and etc... its stupid. no hate to tyler either. but this was just dumb

What tyler is saying is he doesn't want to stay in the lane his in doing shock value raps he wants to expand beyond that
 
I get what he's saying,but i think 50 suffered some because he was trying/forcing commercial hits,instead of making music for the streets.

I always felt The Massacre,shouldn't have been his 2nd album,he should of came with something else then dropped it 3rd.

Also he need to take a couple of months just being in music mode,he's to busy promoting everything else.
 
Ima keep it real this fool needs to critique his on shit because his new stuff is trash compared to his first two albums. He's tryna start some shit to get some publicity
 
ovoCapo;8540544 said:
Waitin for gee to enter lol

smh stop typin my sn and speak on the topik! u a quentin miller stan y u in hurr fiytin 4 cuuuuuuuurtis? he stil cryin bout whn renzel etherd his azz lmaooo now stp male flirtin n take dat shit to donkey!
 
Sion;8541524 said:
@dwade206 since you wanna FRONT like it was no funny looking shit back in the 90s.....

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I could go on and on nigga...... but EVERY era had it's ups and downs...

Why can't niggas appreciate the music of today ? Why it gotta be compared to the 90s or against 2Pac and Biggie ?? That's what Tyler The Creator and them are talking about. It's the old school niggas that don't want to let go of the past comparing music of today to standards they can never reach because it's still a group who are living nostalgically and not in the present.....

Half of these niggas aint rapper tho #shrugs
 
It's easy to try to blame 50 musical decline on a "lack of musical growth" or whatever after the fact. But nigga can reinvent his whole shit in effort to sustain his place, and still decline. That happens too.

And there's some artist that never reinvent their sound, stick with the same formula and it seem to never affect them negatively at all.
 
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