Twista Admits To Using Ghostwriters

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Melanin_Enriched ;8598010 said:
StoneColdMikey;8597891 said:
I pray Nas get ousted with ghost writers so we can see all the tears flow from you niggas

I'd low key kill myself. My whole life would be a lie. Imagine spending 20 years believing nas was the goat.

niggas are mad dramatic

but if they really came out with facts about wu tang having ghost writers im leaving this world

 
AggyAF;8602374 said:
xxCivicxx;8602356 said:
AggyAF;8602297 said:
xxCivicxx;8602251 said:
@AggyAF please read some of the comments on that youtube video as well

yeah no.

i also never said Beyonce wrote anything. all i said is she didn't steal the record. how can you steal something from someone while simultaneously give them credit?

Because she gave the producer credit and not the ghostwriter/creator. And she didn't ask for permission before requisitioning the beat and making her own version

See how this all ties in?

Why are you ignoring the fact detail gave her the beat and worked with her and jay in the studio to create What is now Drunk in Love?

Because that's not what happened.

You should reread my thread.
 
AggyAF;8602030 said:
xxCivicxx;8602021 said:
AggyAF;8601967 said:
Beyonce didn't "steal" any music lol. Detail made the beat and have Future record over it and then gave it Beyonce after

Incorrect. They demo'd it for Beyonce and she never got back to them about it, then it was suddenly on her album

I made a whole thread about this a while ago, back when I was still getting flagged for talking about Future
http://community.allhiphop.com/disc...nez-hot-97-admits-to-writing-drunk-in-love/p1


why is Detail listed as a producer and writer if she stole it?


Btw Detail is talking about the Drunk in Love REMIX in this video, not the original
 
illedout;8600729 said:
hiphop12345;8600463 said:
MorganFreemanKing;8598323 said:
Mr.LV;8597569 said:
If Nas has or had a ghostwriter that shit would be terrible.

dream Hampton started a rumor about that during the Untitled press run.
During life is good, after all the great press Nas was getting.

Dream Hampton did that shit cause she's obsessed with jigga,

and somebody called her show praising Nas' catalogue,

so she said the bullshit about jay elect and sticc man from dead prez..

both Sticc man and Jay elect came out and killed that rumor,

before it even started to travel..


It's already been publicized that most drake fans are bitches and bitch ass niggas..

They willing to tear Nas down just to try and build drake up..

They write letters to judges to get a nigga locked up..

They excuse/ignore the fact he use ghost writers..

They ignore the fact that another man peed on him..

Liking his music is one thing .

but going in different threads defending his honor is straight up fagotry..

Facts is facts..

Dude has a lot of suspect shit about him,

and the lengths his fans will go to defend him is scary..

SMH..

You weirdo's prolly don't put the same amount of energy,

Into defending or protecting your mother and children as you do that pansy..


What's weird is how overly-emotional you are in this post and also how some of you stalk people on a message board because they have a different opinion than you.

Like I said, some of y'all are still bitter from the Drake vs Meek thread.....LOL.

It's only a message board fellas.
 
J.J._Evans;8603044 said:
illedout;8600729 said:
hiphop12345;8600463 said:
MorganFreemanKing;8598323 said:
Mr.LV;8597569 said:
If Nas has or had a ghostwriter that shit would be terrible.

dream Hampton started a rumor about that during the Untitled press run.
During life is good, after all the great press Nas was getting.

Dream Hampton did that shit cause she's obsessed with jigga,

and somebody called her show praising Nas' catalogue,

so she said the bullshit about jay elect and sticc man from dead prez..

both Sticc man and Jay elect came out and killed that rumor,

before it even started to travel..


It's already been publicized that most drake fans are bitches and bitch ass niggas..

They willing to tear Nas down just to try and build drake up..

They write letters to judges to get a nigga locked up..

They excuse/ignore the fact he use ghost writers..

They ignore the fact that another man peed on him..

Liking his music is one thing .

but going in different threads defending his honor is straight up fagotry..

Facts is facts..

Dude has a lot of suspect shit about him,

and the lengths his fans will go to defend him is scary..

SMH..

You weirdo's prolly don't put the same amount of energy,

Into defending or protecting your mother and children as you do that pansy..


What's weird is how overly-emotional you are in this post and also how some of you stalk people on a message board because they have a different opinion than you.



Like I said, some of y'all are still bitter from the Drake vs Meek thread.....LOL.


It's only a message board fellas.


But you haven't explained what anyone should be bitter about...
 
J.J._Evans;8603044 said:
illedout;8600729 said:
hiphop12345;8600463 said:
MorganFreemanKing;8598323 said:
Mr.LV;8597569 said:
If Nas has or had a ghostwriter that shit would be terrible.

dream Hampton started a rumor about that during the Untitled press run.
During life is good, after all the great press Nas was getting.

Dream Hampton did that shit cause she's obsessed with jigga,

and somebody called her show praising Nas' catalogue,

so she said the bullshit about jay elect and sticc man from dead prez..

both Sticc man and Jay elect came out and killed that rumor,

before it even started to travel..


It's already been publicized that most drake fans are bitches and bitch ass niggas..

They willing to tear Nas down just to try and build drake up..

They write letters to judges to get a nigga locked up..

They excuse/ignore the fact he use ghost writers..

They ignore the fact that another man peed on him..

Liking his music is one thing .

but going in different threads defending his honor is straight up fagotry..

Facts is facts..

Dude has a lot of suspect shit about him,

and the lengths his fans will go to defend him is scary..

SMH..

You weirdo's prolly don't put the same amount of energy,

Into defending or protecting your mother and children as you do that pansy..


What's weird is how overly-emotional you are in this post and also how some of you stalk people on a message board because they have a different opinion than you.

Like I said, some of y'all are still bitter from the Drake vs Meek thread.....LOL.

It's only a message board fellas.


Are you gonna debate or keep deflecting???
 
J.J._Evans;8603044 said:
illedout;8600729 said:
hiphop12345;8600463 said:
MorganFreemanKing;8598323 said:
Mr.LV;8597569 said:
If Nas has or had a ghostwriter that shit would be terrible.

dream Hampton started a rumor about that during the Untitled press run.
During life is good, after all the great press Nas was getting.

Dream Hampton did that shit cause she's obsessed with jigga,

and somebody called her show praising Nas' catalogue,

so she said the bullshit about jay elect and sticc man from dead prez..

both Sticc man and Jay elect came out and killed that rumor,

before it even started to travel..


It's already been publicized that most drake fans are bitches and bitch ass niggas..

They willing to tear Nas down just to try and build drake up..

They write letters to judges to get a nigga locked up..

They excuse/ignore the fact he use ghost writers..

They ignore the fact that another man peed on him..

Liking his music is one thing .

but going in different threads defending his honor is straight up fagotry..

Facts is facts..

Dude has a lot of suspect shit about him,

and the lengths his fans will go to defend him is scary..

SMH..

You weirdo's prolly don't put the same amount of energy,

Into defending or protecting your mother and children as you do that pansy..


What's weird is how overly-emotional you are in this post and also how some of you stalk people on a message board because they have a different opinion than you.

Like I said, some of y'all are still bitter from the Drake vs Meek thread.....LOL.

It's only a message board fellas.


Lol..

You're still deflecting,

everything in my post was FACTS..

Either debate it or don't even bother responding..

I don't stalk NOBODY,

so you can go ahead and kill ya self for even posting that bullshit,

I never been to your personal page and I barely post in any threads you create..
 
xxCivicxx;8602859 said:
AggyAF;8602374 said:
xxCivicxx;8602356 said:
AggyAF;8602297 said:
xxCivicxx;8602251 said:
@AggyAF please read some of the comments on that youtube video as well

yeah no.

i also never said Beyonce wrote anything. all i said is she didn't steal the record. how can you steal something from someone while simultaneously give them credit?

Because she gave the producer credit and not the ghostwriter/creator. And she didn't ask for permission before requisitioning the beat and making her own version

See how this all ties in?

Why are you ignoring the fact detail gave her the beat and worked with her and jay in the studio to create What is now Drunk in Love?

Because that's not what happened.

You should reread my thread.

So detail and Beyonce were never in the studio together
 
AggyAF;8603270 said:
xxCivicxx;8602859 said:
AggyAF;8602374 said:
xxCivicxx;8602356 said:
AggyAF;8602297 said:
xxCivicxx;8602251 said:
@AggyAF please read some of the comments on that youtube video as well

yeah no.

i also never said Beyonce wrote anything. all i said is she didn't steal the record. how can you steal something from someone while simultaneously give them credit?

Because she gave the producer credit and not the ghostwriter/creator. And she didn't ask for permission before requisitioning the beat and making her own version

See how this all ties in?

Why are you ignoring the fact detail gave her the beat and worked with her and jay in the studio to create What is now Drunk in Love?

Because that's not what happened.

You should reread my thread.

So detail and Beyonce were never in the studio together

I'm still not sure what you're not understanding

Future and Detail DEMO'd the song for her.

That means that they came to her with a version of the song already made. She heard it but never got back to them about the song, yet it still ended up on her album and Detail got a credit for making the beat

Once again, have you listened to Good Morning? Future released that song when he heard that Beyonce was about to release Drunk in Love as a single.

Why do you think he would do this without fear of action being taken by Beyonce's legal team?
 
xxCivicxx;8603282 said:
AggyAF;8603270 said:
xxCivicxx;8602859 said:
AggyAF;8602374 said:
xxCivicxx;8602356 said:
AggyAF;8602297 said:
xxCivicxx;8602251 said:
@AggyAF please read some of the comments on that youtube video as well

yeah no.

i also never said Beyonce wrote anything. all i said is she didn't steal the record. how can you steal something from someone while simultaneously give them credit?

Because she gave the producer credit and not the ghostwriter/creator. And she didn't ask for permission before requisitioning the beat and making her own version

See how this all ties in?

Why are you ignoring the fact detail gave her the beat and worked with her and jay in the studio to create What is now Drunk in Love?

Because that's not what happened.

You should reread my thread.

So detail and Beyonce were never in the studio together

I'm still not sure what you're not understanding

Future and Detail DEMO'd the song for her.

That means that they came to her with a version of the song already made. She heard it but never got back to them about the song, yet it still ended up on her album and Detail got a credit for making the beat

Once again, have you listened to Good Morning? Future released that song when he heard that Beyonce was about to release Drunk in Love as a single.

Why do you think he would do this without fear of action being taken by Beyonce's legal team?

Were Detail and Beyonce in the studio together?
 
i noticed something else about p drizzle, you check how he was always on the hottest rapper in the games albums but none of them really seem to fuck with him? then you see him trying to leach off future and the like

im not saying a drake feature wont help an album sales of course, but my point till stands

wheres the OP at anyway
 
The nigga said 3 songs

Somebody sez they have had a ghostwriter and people assume their whole career has been fabricated
 
gns;8605797 said:
The nigga said 3 songs

Somebody sez they have had a ghostwriter and people assume their whole career has been fabricated

Yo @gns it's not so much the three songs. It's more of the fact that he needed them period.

Idk Fam niggas have different ways of viewing shit. Jay/Nas/GFK are my three favorite artist. When I heard that Superb might have been the pen behind Supreme Clientele I was disappointed. When I heard the shit about Nas nigger album, I felt the same.

It's not that we look up to rappers for guidance (although some niggas on this do) its just that if you love music and authenticity the shit does bother you to some extent.

Would I stop listening to those records if those rumors were true? Probably not.

But I won't have the same feelings about them if those rumors were true.

Hip Hop homie. It's all we really got.

 
I can dig it but rap is the only genre this happens

Not saying im for ghostwriters

But if a singer gets a song written for them its no issue at all

People still got love for the artist. Like for eg mary j blige. She dont write shit. Yet her fans love her and sez shes talking to them through her songs etc

Rap is the only genre of music where people get shit for getting help in the studio and rappers having expiration dates

Again not supporting it. It just strikes me as curious
 
xxCivicxx;8598386 said:
Lustchyld;8598243 said:
in fact, that's like saying Curry hit the game winning 3 but it rattled in so he's not the best shooter

How is this in any way like that?

It's more like he put 1 hand on the ball, his ghost shooter put 1 hand on the ball and they shot the 3 together

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Louis Devinear;8605832 said:
gns;8605797 said:
The nigga said 3 songs

Somebody sez they have had a ghostwriter and people assume their whole career has been fabricated

Yo @gns it's not so much the three songs. It's more of the fact that he needed them period.

I wouldnt say he "needed it" , he's been in the game for over 20 years with a classic album under his belt and tons of classic verses. At this point, he's just fuckin around on some Snoop Lion shit, there's nothin left to prove.
 
I knew Future wrote "body party" for Ciara, didnt know the nigga wrote "drunk in love" tho. That nigga dominating the rap and rnb charts.
 
gns;8605851 said:
I can dig it but rap is the only genre this happens

Not saying im for ghostwriters

But if a singer gets a song written for them its no issue at all

People still got love for the artist. Like for eg mary j blige. She dont write shit. Yet her fans love her and sez shes talking to them through her songs etc

Rap is the only genre of music where people get shit for getting help in the studio and rappers having expiration dates

Again not supporting it. It just strikes me as curious

The reason being is that most vocalists can't/don't write great records. So the people behind the scenes who invest in these artists know there's potential based on vocal ability. So they have to get a return on their investment. Vocalist far and beyond have been known to use writers for years. That's just the nature of R&B.

But hip hop is a whole other animal. These niggas get signed off 16's. You can spit one hot verse and be signed tomorrow. Same as with R&B. But your pen carries more weight in hip hop.

When these executives used to listen to niggas bars before the money and fame they always thought longevity and creativeness. Meaning if said artist can write this what else can he do and who can he do it for.

This is why the pen is mightier than the sword. You can always segue your writing ability into other ventures but your vocals may diminish.

That's why I respect niggas pen game. That's why I never compare hip hop and R&B.

Two different animals
 
_Goldie_;8605861 said:
Louis Devinear;8605832 said:
gns;8605797 said:
The nigga said 3 songs

Somebody sez they have had a ghostwriter and people assume their whole career has been fabricated

Yo @gns it's not so much the three songs. It's more of the fact that he needed them period.

I wouldnt say he "needed it" , he's been in the game for over 20 years with a classic album under his belt and tons of classic verses. At this point, he's just fuckin around on some Snoop Lion shit, there's nothin left to prove.

Come @_Goldie_ you better than that. Don't make excuses for him. Does it take away from him and his achievements as a person? No

Does it take away from his artistic credibility? Yes
 

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