Trey Songz Sits Atop The R&B Genre

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Punisher__;355170 said:
I mean, seriously. It doesn't take much complexity to write "To the left, to the left."

The intention behind that was for it to be catchy - which it was/is - not to rival Big Daddy Kane in lyricism. What about the rest of the song? Yeah.

lol@summing up Ne-Yo's songwriting skills with one line in a BEYONCE track. C'mon.

Like the lyric, "say aah (aah, aah, aah, aah)" will be studied in music theory classrooms everywhere , decades from now. :rolleyes:
 
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"Irreplaceable" is one of the most banally written songs in all of Contemporary Music.

It's easily one of Beyonce's most banal.
 
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Punisher__;356527 said:
"Irreplaceable" is one of the most banally written songs in all of Contemporary Music.

It's easily one of Beyonce's most banal.

I don't disagree with that. Personally, I don't like Beyonce's music, period.

But, it was catchy. And that's what she was going for. And Ne-Yo delivered.

Either way, that song doesn't do Ne-Yo's songwriting justice.
 
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Mr. R&B;355801 said:
The intention behind that was for it to be catchy - which it was/is - not to rival Big Daddy Kane in lyricism. What about the rest of the song? Yeah.

lol@summing up Ne-Yo's songwriting skills with one line in a BEYONCE track. C'mon.

Like the lyric, "say aah (aah, aah, aah, aah)" will be studied in music theory classrooms everywhere , decades from now. :rolleyes:

exactly what i was gonna say lol

Trey is doing a lot better these days, but still Usher and Ne-Yo are still more successful than him.
 
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mike06;352945 said:
1st bold- i see what your sayin the boy is grindin

2nd- you reeeeeeally think CB's album would've came out like that if nothing happend that night.....it was obviously "rushed" to get back on the scene and in good graces wit the fans...c'mon son 4 real

3rd- i never said anything about Usher current shit being on the same level as Trey's but he too has "put in work" and is still an A-lister R&B singer who can go on his OWN tour BY HIMSELF and sell out every venue...trey still can't do that...

4th- are you basing this just off his music?.....CB was all over the place and catipulted into A-Lister status off his last album, he was on every damn award show and did the "Jayonce" relationship thing with Rihanna... he was growing into a man with the songs he was puttin out at the time(more grown and sexy...less dancing)...how was he not considered an A-lister?....everybody was talkin about him being the next MJ were they not?

5th- lmao...c'mon son...if he went there BY HIMSELF...or better yet if it was TREY SONGZ who got the invite instead of Jay-Z then you might have a point

6th- no one is taking away from his "hard work", but if you think his former management would've put him in the same position his current management has him in now...we'll just have to agree to disagree

and i did say trey was on top of the game to begin with, so what are we even talkin about fam?

Ummm yeah I think before the incident wit Ri Ri chris album was already done... Had the incident not taking place he wouldve definetly got better promotion and marketing, more videos and things like that, but the material wouldve still been the same, underwhelming...

And I agree Usher has put in his work... I love Confessions to death, and I like 8701. I honestly cant just say for a fact that Usher can headline and sell out a tour right now, I can personally say I would not pay more than 40 dollars to go to a Usher concert right now...

Umm when I wrote that about CB I think I was just going off the music, I had forgotten about the movies and major endorsements he was getting from wrigleys and everyone else right before this, so i retract my statement... He was an A lister

Michelle made the request for Trey personally....

6th his management team of course is way better now, but part of the reason Kevin Liles took on the responsibility of managing him is because of all the work he has currently puttin in...

Honestly I dont know what we talking about, but musical conversation is entertaining to me so :unno

@ Mr. R&B we gone respectfuly agree to disagree... I see you just aint feeling trey like that and i cant knock ya
 
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Mrslim1;353341 said:
Man I surprised at you. I know in the DC radio market they play ish out of the " You Belong to me " joint. But Trey is cool , I will say he has to get a couple things under his belt to be considered A-Lister . 1 is a Number 1 album and the second is to headline a tour. And not a tour with Day 26 and Mario. 3. He has to go Platinum sooner or later. I am not big on Grammys, I mean Marvin Gaye only has 1 . But having Grammy Award winner in front of your name doesn't hurt. And as successful as Trey has been this year, Before this year Maxwell accomplished more in his career than Trey has in his whole career. But this past year alone Maxwell has accomplished more than Trey has in his whole career after being gone off the scene 8 years. So I disagree when you say he is at the top of the R&B game. But you my dude and I respect Trey a lil more than I did before

See how I look at it I would say Maxwell is atop the Soul/Jazz/Eclectic genre and Trey is R&B... Ready Debuted at number one I thought, and I agree that my boy need to go plat sooner or later, I think his next project will be the one that finally does...

Yo Slim I dont even listen to NJ/NY radio no more... Same shit on every station, every station is owned by clear channel... I just be off the ipod now
 
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YungHeartLess5;356806 said:
See how I look at it I would say Maxwell is atop the Soul/Jazz/Eclectic genre and Trey is R&B... Ready Debuted at number one I thought, and I agree that my boy need to go plat sooner or later, I think his next project will be the one that finally does...

Yo Slim I dont even listen to NJ/NY radio no more... Same shit on every station, every station is owned by clear channel... I just be off the ipod now

I am the same way bro. But when my girl is in the crib she turns on the radio so i am forced to listen to it

Ready debuted at # 3
 
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Yo Trey Songz can sing his ass off. The joint he did with Toni Braxton was crazy.. but his album was only good... maybe 6.5/10 to me... I liked the previous efforts better. And he need to stop making them corny songs like LOL Smiley Face.
 
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YungHeartLess5;356786 said:
@ Mr. R&B we gone respectfuly agree to disagree... I see you just aint feeling trey like that and i cant knock ya

Like I said earlier, I gots no problem with that. I respect your opinions. :)
 
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buttuh_b;357028 said:
Yo Trey Songz can sing his ass off. The joint he did with Toni Braxton was crazy.. but his album was only good... maybe 6.5/10 to me... I liked the previous efforts better. And he need to stop making them corny songs like LOL Smiley Face.

only a 6.5??????????? on my momma if he put "last time" on this cd and "lol smiley face" on his last cd..... this cd would be a classic ( imo it already is)
 
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my top for r&b is Trey and Ne-Yo

i never been a big fan of ushers up tempo music..its always a hit and miss, which is why i cant really get into his Daddy's Home mixtape...i'll still check for his album tho because i like the song daddy's home
 
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Tray Songz aint nowhere near Neyo and Usher's league success wise, performance wise, voice wise and definetly album sales wise.
 
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usmarin3;368217 said:
Tray Songz aint nowhere near Neyo and Usher's league success wise, performance wise, voice wise and definetly album sales wise.

Success, performance, and voice are all matters of perception... The only thing you were correct about is album sales which mean nothing... I also dont understand how Usher gets so much praise off one great album... Lets be serious
 
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Ne-Yo came and went where? To the top of the R&B charts? His music is better and his sales are better than Trey Songz. I know i'm not the only one tired of hearing that same 'ol cheesy, bedroom music. Trey Songz is only a few steps up from Pretty Ricky. Props on him finally passing 500k though with this album...I guess that's what happens when you have 2-3 songs out at a time with Drake all over 'em.
 
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usmarin3;368217 said:
Tray Songz aint nowhere near Neyo and Usher's league success wise, performance wise, voice wise and definetly album sales wise.

My Way is a great album, there is not one weak track on that whole album and at 16 Usher was making more grown music than Trey Songz is now.
 
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YungHeartLess5;373090 said:
Success, performance, and voice are all matters of perception... The only thing you were correct about is album sales which mean nothing... I also dont understand how Usher gets so much praise off one great album... Lets be serious

You are a Trey Songz dickrider...Pleasure P had a hotter album than this nigga. GTFOH...Trey had a little success with this album...he will soon fade.
 
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KillaCham.;374120 said:
Ne-Yo came and went where? To the top of the R&B charts? His music is better and his sales are better than Trey Songz. I know i'm not the only one tired of hearing that same 'ol cheesy, bedroom music. Trey Songz is only a few steps up from Pretty Ricky. Props on him finally passing 500k though with this album...I guess that's what happens when you have 2-3 songs out at a time with Drake all over 'em.

Neyo music has gotten worse and worse with each passing album, we talked about Neyo early on in the thread... Sales mean nothing. because you sell alot of records doesnt mean you delivered a great album (prime example Carter III) And yeah Trey Songz owes everthing to Drake...
 
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usmarin3;374129 said:
My Way is a great album, there is not one weak track on that whole album and at 16 Usher was making more grown music than Trey Songz is now.

thats your opinion, I cant debate your opinion...
 
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I agree. His writing abilities are either limited or undeveloped. I wouldn't call him boring, but I will say he's just average/listenable.
 
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