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its....JOHN B;c-9731420 said:Ryan has not had an impressive career, just a very good season, if he shows me consistency this year I'll say it's him, I think Cam rebounds
its....JOHN B;c-9731420 said:Ryan has not had an impressive career, just a very good season, if he shows me consistency this year I'll say it's him, I think Cam rebounds
numbaz...80's baby;c-9731409 said:vageneral08;c-9731336 said:numbaz...80's baby;c-9727868 said:Andrew fucking Luck?!?!?! You got to be shitting me bro.
I won't even mention Cam and his 2 good seasons his entire career. There's a racial bias here for his mediocracy.
But Luck?!?!?! FOH!
Only person, on that list, that should be above Matt is wacko Flacco because of his ring.
That's it, all bs aside
Nigga you tripping I know you a falcon fan but really compare luck first 3 seasons to the other qb's on the list and see where they stand
His 55 picks in 55 games voids his 1st 3 seasons. That list isnt too impressive but none of them do that.
aneed123;c-9731455 said:How the hell Luck above Cam? Where is his super bowl appearence ? Where is his MVP? gtfoh
vageneral08;c-9731778 said:numbaz...80's baby;c-9731409 said:vageneral08;c-9731336 said:numbaz...80's baby;c-9727868 said:Andrew fucking Luck?!?!?! You got to be shitting me bro.
I won't even mention Cam and his 2 good seasons his entire career. There's a racial bias here for his mediocracy.
But Luck?!?!?! FOH!
Only person, on that list, that should be above Matt is wacko Flacco because of his ring.
That's it, all bs aside
Nigga you tripping I know you a falcon fan but really compare luck first 3 seasons to the other qb's on the list and see where they stand
His 55 picks in 55 games voids his 1st 3 seasons. That list isnt too impressive but none of them do that.
If you really think all 55 ints was his fault you tripping....he went deeper in the playoffs in first 3 seasons plus he does more than those other qb's with no running game
bow to royalty;d-557030 said:USA today put together this list. What do you think?
10. Teddy Bridgewater
9. Marcus Mariota
8. Jameis Winston
7. Ryan Tannehill
6. Sam Bradford
5. Joe Flacco
4. Matthew Stafford
3. Matt Ryan
2. Cam Newton
1. Andrew Luck
its....JOHN B;c-9731877 said:Cam won the MVP with Ted Ginn as his best receiver y'all looking at the season like an anomaly and think he's going to divert back to when he was a young qb I'm seeing it as him reaching his ultimate prime, Ryan is the better passer hell most of those qb's are better passers but let's not disregard what he does on foot as well, there were a lot of things to point to as to why the Panthers came out flat after a superbowl appearance but I'm not going to make excuses for him I just believe he's a better qb than what we saw last year, but if Ryan is going to be an MVP candidate from here on out then it's him I just want to see if he diverts back to just being an ok quarterback
D. Morgan;c-9731884 said:its....JOHN B;c-9731877 said:Cam won the MVP with Ted Ginn as his best receiver y'all looking at the season like an anomaly and think he's going to divert back to when he was a young qb I'm seeing it as him reaching his ultimate prime, Ryan is the better passer hell most of those qb's are better passers but let's not disregard what he does on foot as well, there were a lot of things to point to as to why the Panthers came out flat after a superbowl appearance but I'm not going to make excuses for him I just believe he's a better qb than what we saw last year, but if Ryan is going to be an MVP candidate from here on out then it's him I just want to see if he diverts back to just being an ok quarterback
When it comes to judging Cam shit like that doesn't matter is what I've seeing
numbaz...80's baby;c-9731899 said:It doesnt matter because they had Greg Olsen. Lets not sit here and act like he had nobody to pass to.Their running game dominated the trenches.Cam had talent in his offense.
The blueprint for Cam is out there. Punch him in the mouth, watch him pout like a lil bitch and quit.
its....JOHN B;c-9731901 said:D. Morgan;c-9731884 said:its....JOHN B;c-9731877 said:Cam won the MVP with Ted Ginn as his best receiver y'all looking at the season like an anomaly and think he's going to divert back to when he was a young qb I'm seeing it as him reaching his ultimate prime, Ryan is the better passer hell most of those qb's are better passers but let's not disregard what he does on foot as well, there were a lot of things to point to as to why the Panthers came out flat after a superbowl appearance but I'm not going to make excuses for him I just believe he's a better qb than what we saw last year, but if Ryan is going to be an MVP candidate from here on out then it's him I just want to see if he diverts back to just being an ok quarterback
When it comes to judging Cam shit like that doesn't matter is what I've seeing
Not sure why, he never really had the personnel these other qb's had, last year he lost Oher in week 3 then they had to scramble the tackle position around for the rest of the year he was playing behind one of the worst lines, one thing I don't like about Cam is that defeated persona he displays sometimes, not diving for that football will always stand out
numbaz...80's baby;c-9731928 said:Jonathan Stewart is a pro bowl rb for the Panthers
Stop it
numbaz...80's baby;c-9731947 said:I didnt say he was dominant. I said they had a dominant rushing game.
You said Olsen and Cam is the only talent on the team. I mention their pro bowl rb. That's talent. I didnt even mention their pro bowl FB and Williams. They were successful bcuz their running game.
You're killing your arguement