To those who believe in a kind and merciful god....why is the world so hostile to life?

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This video from Neil Degrasse Tyson also had me thinking......he points out that most most birth defects have no known cause and that humans can't live on 66% of Earth's land mass. And the parts that we do live on, often have to deal with floods, droughts and other natural disasters


 
I don't understand how you went to a Catholic school but you honestly know and understand so little of the bible. So I'll help you out. First let's rephrase your question and get a little philosophical is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals. So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven;8682718 said:

I thought you said Jesus forgave and died for our sins? Are you trying to say him dying for our sins didn't make a difference in the long term?
 
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The_Jackal;8682757 said:
I don't understand how you went to a Catholic school but you honestly know and understand so little of the bible. So I'll help you out. First let's rephrase your question and get a little philosophical is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals. So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

I stopped taking the Bible seriously in my sophomore year of Catholic high school lol, so the idea of original sin doesn't make sense to me. Didn't your god know ahead of time humans would sin?

You can't say man is responsible for all the world's problems, there are many problems in the world that have nothing to do with man, disease, birth defects (most of whom don't have a known cause), hostile parasites that hurt many around the world, droughts, earthquakes, etc. These are things man hasn't created, and of course you can't explain that away.

And why is man in constant conflict with others? The biggest reasons are greed, resources and religion ironically. And as far as free will, we don't have total free will over our lives, some people have much worse choices compared to others. Think of someone born retarded or mentally slow, how many options does that person have in much of the world compared to many others? Their choices are limited and many times desperate.
 
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I didnt read none of that shit..

But people make choices bad choices.. free will.

Hate, Jealousy, anger Bitterness makes some people go..
 
playmaker88;8683012 said:
I didnt read none of that shit..

But people make choices bad choices.. free will.

Hate, Jealousy, anger Bitterness makes some people go..

So disease, earthquakes, extreme weather, radiation, floods, birth defects, and hostile parasites from mother nature are caused by people?
 
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kingblaze84;8683000 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
I don't understand how you went to a Catholic school but you honestly know and understand so little of the bible. So I'll help you out. First let's rephrase your question and get a little philosophical is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals. So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

I stopped taking the Bible seriously in my sophomore year of Catholic high school lol, so the idea of original sin doesn't make sense to me. Didn't your god know ahead of time humans would sin?

You can't say man is responsible for all the world's problems, there are many problems in the world that have nothing to do with man, disease, birth defects (most of whom don't have a known cause), hostile parasites that hurt many around the world, droughts, earthquakes, etc. These are things man hasn't created, and of course you can't explain that away.

And why is man in constant conflict with others? The biggest reasons are greed, resources and religion ironically. And as far as free will, we don't have total free will over our lives, some people have much worse choices compared to others. Think of someone born retarded or mentally slow, how many options does that person have in much of the world compared to many others? Their choices are limited and many times desperate.

To your first paragraph like I said you have so little understanding and knowledge of the bible that you don't understand because you refuse to.

I didn't say they were responsible for all I said just that it ultimately comes down to man. I said nature and Earth just are they don't approve or disapprove they just happen it's not hostile or friendly in anyway.

Again try to shape it as much as you want and list as many reasons no matter how correct and incorrect your are it's still man. As far as you trying to pass off free will because of mentally retardation or financial difficulties it doesn't change the fact. At anytime at any mintue anyone can do anything they want wither it positively or negatively affect their life. It's as simple as that to say otherwise is to denounce all freewill
 
This nigga knows nothing about the bible... Smh yet claims he went to Catholic school, clearly he was not paying attention in class.
 
There are literally hundreds maybe thousands of books by theologians who have answered this question already, Who have explained what the bible says is the answer to this question....Who have given great analysis on this topic

The earth is marred the whole of existence has been altered from what god originally intended. Therefore suffering exists among man and in nature.
 
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals.

This statement is non-sense. Over 99% off all the species to ever exist on this earth are now extinct. The rapid an unexpected climatic changes on earth contributes significantly.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

God either intervenes or he doesn't. I think all of the monotheistic holy books make the case that he does interfer to a great extent. He even takes sides in wars.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

There's some truth to this. We can't rely on a silent God to answer our prayers. We have to help each other out.
 
And_So_It_Burns;8683415 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals.

This statement is non-sense. Over 99% off all the species to ever exist on this earth are now extinct. The rapid an unexpected climatic changes on earth contributes significantly.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

God either intervenes or he doesn't. I think all of the monotheistic holy books make the case that he does interfer to a great extent. He even takes sides in wars.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

There's some truth to this. We can't rely on a silent God to answer our prayers. We have to help each other out.

To the first statement isn't nonsense at all especially in the way he phrased the question. Like I said Earth and nature just is. Nature doesn't conspire against anyway so how could it fundamentally be hostile? I never said that creatures haven't been killed just that nature in itself isn't hostile. Better way to state it is that nature and the world is completly indifferent to every creature on it.

To the second part read the bible. He intervenes very little. I'm personal am a deist. He created the world to delivar his message and left us to our own devices.

And as far as Blaze goes I don't get why he pretends to be open about the possibility of a God or atleast God of the bible existing. It's very clearly he refuses to learn and has general scorn towards the whole religion.

 
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The_Jackal;8683436 said:
And_So_It_Burns;8683415 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals.

This statement is non-sense. Over 99% off all the species to ever exist on this earth are now extinct. The rapid an unexpected climatic changes on earth contributes significantly.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

God either intervenes or he doesn't. I think all of the monotheistic holy books make the case that he does interfer to a great extent. He even takes sides in wars.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

There's some truth to this. We can't rely on a silent God to answer our prayers. We have to help each other out.

To the first statement isn't nonsense at all especially in the way he phrased the question. Like I said Earth and nature just is. Nature doesn't conspire against anyway so how could it fundamentally be hostile? I never said that creatures haven't been killed just that nature in itself isn't hostile. Better way to state it is that nature and the world is completly indifferent to every creature on it.

To the second part read the bible. He intervenes very little. I'm personal am a deist. He created the world to delivar his message and left us to our own devices.

And as far as Blaze goes I don't get why he pretends to be open about the possibility of a God or atleast God of the bible existing. It's very clearly he refuses to learn and has general scorn towards the whole religion.

I think you're mischaracterizing his question. You're responding as if he asked "is nature evil." or "does nature intend to do us harm" Of course not, it's pointless to personify nature. I don't think you can really dodge the question based on the way it was phrase. A better way would be asking is if the apparent hostility in nature is compatible with a merciful God.

the story that ties all monotheistic religions together is based on God intervening. In the story of Abraham. Then we have the floods in which God obliterates all human and animal life . I'm not sure how consider murdering all life on earth with the exception of a lucky few as "intervenes very little" God's intervention is salient in the bible
 
And_So_It_Burns;8683483 said:
The_Jackal;8683436 said:
And_So_It_Burns;8683415 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals.

This statement is non-sense. Over 99% off all the species to ever exist on this earth are now extinct. The rapid an unexpected climatic changes on earth contributes significantly.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

God either intervenes or he doesn't. I think all of the monotheistic holy books make the case that he does interfer to a great extent. He even takes sides in wars.

The_Jackal;8682757 said:
Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

There's some truth to this. We can't rely on a silent God to answer our prayers. We have to help each other out.

To the first statement isn't nonsense at all especially in the way he phrased the question. Like I said Earth and nature just is. Nature doesn't conspire against anyway so how could it fundamentally be hostile? I never said that creatures haven't been killed just that nature in itself isn't hostile. Better way to state it is that nature and the world is completly indifferent to every creature on it.

To the second part read the bible. He intervenes very little. I'm personal am a deist. He created the world to delivar his message and left us to our own devices.

And as far as Blaze goes I don't get why he pretends to be open about the possibility of a God or atleast God of the bible existing. It's very clearly he refuses to learn and has general scorn towards the whole religion.

I think you're mischaracterizing his question. You're responding as if he asked "is nature evil." or "does nature intend to do us harm" Of course not, it's pointless to personify nature. I don't think you can really dodge the question based on the way it was phrase. A better way would be asking is if the apparent hostility in nature is compatible with a merciful God.

the story that ties all monotheistic religions together is based on God intervening. In the story of Abraham. Then we have the floods in which God obliterates all human and animal life . I'm not sure how consider murdering all life on earth with the exception of a lucky few as "intervenes very little" God's intervention is salient in the bible

How the question is phrased characterized that ultimately nature is out to harm us or at the very least God allows nature to be harmful to us. Why else would he automatically think why does it have to be so cold. Atleast that's how I see it.

The thing is overall throughout the bible he really does only intervene very little. Of course you will remember the flood because it is a significant event but it ultimately comes down to quality vs quantity as far as him intervening.
 
The_Jackal;8683078 said:
kingblaze84;8683000 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
I don't understand how you went to a Catholic school but you honestly know and understand so little of the bible. So I'll help you out. First let's rephrase your question and get a little philosophical is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals. So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

I stopped taking the Bible seriously in my sophomore year of Catholic high school lol, so the idea of original sin doesn't make sense to me. Didn't your god know ahead of time humans would sin?

You can't say man is responsible for all the world's problems, there are many problems in the world that have nothing to do with man, disease, birth defects (most of whom don't have a known cause), hostile parasites that hurt many around the world, droughts, earthquakes, etc. These are things man hasn't created, and of course you can't explain that away.

And why is man in constant conflict with others? The biggest reasons are greed, resources and religion ironically. And as far as free will, we don't have total free will over our lives, some people have much worse choices compared to others. Think of someone born retarded or mentally slow, how many options does that person have in much of the world compared to many others? Their choices are limited and many times desperate.

To your first paragraph like I said you have so little understanding and knowledge of the bible that you don't understand because you refuse to.

I didn't say they were responsible for all I said just that it ultimately comes down to man. I said nature and Earth just are they don't approve or disapprove they just happen it's not hostile or friendly in anyway.

Again try to shape it as much as you want and list as many reasons no matter how correct and incorrect your are it's still man. As far as you trying to pass off free will because of mentally retardation or financial difficulties it doesn't change the fact. At anytime at any mintue anyone can do anything they want wither it positively or negatively affect their life. It's as simple as that to say otherwise is to denounce all freewill

When you keep blaming man for the natural problems of the world, such as cancer, extreme cold, disease and earthquakes, are you speaking of original sin? Because that's a terrible excuse for the world being hostile to life, especially if the god you believe in made humans faulty to begin with. Wouldn't a "merciful" god completely forgive humans for original sin? Earth is very hostile to life, 99% of life that has ever existed has gone extinct.

And free will is an illusion because once again, not all choices are equal. Some people have the choice of making good choices and bad choices, while others have the choice between bad choices and more bad choices. Someone born in a nation that doesn't have health services or clean drinking water isn't gonna have the same choices in life as someone whose parents are well off and live in a stable environment.
 
zzombie;8683300 said:
There are literally hundreds maybe thousands of books by theologians who have answered this question already, Who have explained what the bible says is the answer to this question....Who have given great analysis on this topic

The earth is marred the whole of existence has been altered from what god originally intended. Therefore suffering exists among man and in nature.

The Bible doesn't give a good answer to my question though. It gives horrible and contradictory ones. On one hand, Jesus "forgave" our sins but on the other hand, humans and others still suffer from what Adam and Eve did. Either your god forgave the sins or he didn't. If your Bible god is real, it would have made a clean slate after Jesus supposedly "died for our sins". In reality, nothing changed after his death, and it's why I can't take the Bible answers seriously, too many contradictions.
 
kingblaze84;8683754 said:
The_Jackal;8683078 said:
kingblaze84;8683000 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
I don't understand how you went to a Catholic school but you honestly know and understand so little of the bible. So I'll help you out. First let's rephrase your question and get a little philosophical is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals. So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

I stopped taking the Bible seriously in my sophomore year of Catholic high school lol, so the idea of original sin doesn't make sense to me. Didn't your god know ahead of time humans would sin?

You can't say man is responsible for all the world's problems, there are many problems in the world that have nothing to do with man, disease, birth defects (most of whom don't have a known cause), hostile parasites that hurt many around the world, droughts, earthquakes, etc. These are things man hasn't created, and of course you can't explain that away.

And why is man in constant conflict with others? The biggest reasons are greed, resources and religion ironically. And as far as free will, we don't have total free will over our lives, some people have much worse choices compared to others. Think of someone born retarded or mentally slow, how many options does that person have in much of the world compared to many others? Their choices are limited and many times desperate.

To your first paragraph like I said you have so little understanding and knowledge of the bible that you don't understand because you refuse to.

I didn't say they were responsible for all I said just that it ultimately comes down to man. I said nature and Earth just are they don't approve or disapprove they just happen it's not hostile or friendly in anyway.

Again try to shape it as much as you want and list as many reasons no matter how correct and incorrect your are it's still man. As far as you trying to pass off free will because of mentally retardation or financial difficulties it doesn't change the fact. At anytime at any mintue anyone can do anything they want wither it positively or negatively affect their life. It's as simple as that to say otherwise is to denounce all freewill

When you keep blaming man for the natural problems of the world, such as cancer, extreme cold, disease and earthquakes, are you speaking of original sin? Because that's a terrible excuse for the world being hostile to life, especially if the god you believe in made humans faulty to begin with. Wouldn't a "merciful" god completely forgive humans for original sin? Earth is very hostile to life, 99% of life that has ever existed has gone extinct.

And free will is an illusion because once again, not all choices are equal. Some people have the choice of making good choices and bad choices, while others have the choice between bad choices and more bad choices. Someone born in a nation that doesn't have health services or clean drinking water isn't gonna have the same choices in life as someone whose parents are well off and live in a stable environment.

I'm not blaming men I'm refuting your claim of nature being hostile. Diseases, exterme weather are not evil nor or they hostile. Nature cannot be hostile towards man. Diseases cannot be hostile towards men. At most they are indifferent which is why the whole premise of nature being hostile is wrong.

Free Will

The ability to act at one's own discretion.

No matter what choice is put in front of it you ultimately decided how to proceed. This isn't a debate about the difference of choices or they kind of choices that different people are given just that ultimately human can make there own choice and do whatever they want to in their life. At any time in anybody life you cam choice to leave your country, to abandon your family, to start a new life, to murder or rob or be a upstanding citizen. This is undeniably and you should take a good hard look at yourself if you think otherwise
 
To those who say nature isn't hostile to life..........Google how many diseases there are and how many earthquakes have affected the world. Also research how many lives volcanoes have taken throughout the years. Notice how natural these things are in the world.
 
kingblaze84;8683779 said:
To those who say nature isn't hostile to life..........Google how many diseases there are and how many earthquakes have affected the world. Also research how many lives volcanoes have taken throughout the years. Notice how natural these things are in the world.

How does that make it hostile? By saying it is your saying nature is in essence opposed to or is antagonistic to life? How does that even make any sense? Especially if you are going to go the route of volcanoes and regions with exterme weather which existed before life.
 
The_Jackal;8683775 said:
kingblaze84;8683754 said:
The_Jackal;8683078 said:
kingblaze84;8683000 said:
The_Jackal;8682757 said:
I don't understand how you went to a Catholic school but you honestly know and understand so little of the bible. So I'll help you out. First let's rephrase your question and get a little philosophical is the world and nature truly hostile to life? No of course not nature and Earth neither approve or are hostile towards humans and animals. So what then does it come down to? Man. Why is man in a constant conflict with each other and why does the God of the bible not interfere and correct the horrible path of destruction man is going down? The fundamental and only answer is free will.

Let's think about it and not to judge you but when you were thinking of this thread of God lacking mercy did you stop to think of your own action. You could have brought them to your home, you could have gave them money to go to a shelter, you could have went home git old coats you had and gave them it but most likely you didn't. Nothing wrong with it you don't know them if they were dangerous or not maybe you were in a date with ol girl and didn't have the money and decided to be on your way. What you and others who think like this suggest is that God directly influences are life and there by taking away are own ability to chose are action which negates truly being just or unjust in society eyes

I stopped taking the Bible seriously in my sophomore year of Catholic high school lol, so the idea of original sin doesn't make sense to me. Didn't your god know ahead of time humans would sin?

You can't say man is responsible for all the world's problems, there are many problems in the world that have nothing to do with man, disease, birth defects (most of whom don't have a known cause), hostile parasites that hurt many around the world, droughts, earthquakes, etc. These are things man hasn't created, and of course you can't explain that away.

And why is man in constant conflict with others? The biggest reasons are greed, resources and religion ironically. And as far as free will, we don't have total free will over our lives, some people have much worse choices compared to others. Think of someone born retarded or mentally slow, how many options does that person have in much of the world compared to many others? Their choices are limited and many times desperate.

To your first paragraph like I said you have so little understanding and knowledge of the bible that you don't understand because you refuse to.

I didn't say they were responsible for all I said just that it ultimately comes down to man. I said nature and Earth just are they don't approve or disapprove they just happen it's not hostile or friendly in anyway.

Again try to shape it as much as you want and list as many reasons no matter how correct and incorrect your are it's still man. As far as you trying to pass off free will because of mentally retardation or financial difficulties it doesn't change the fact. At anytime at any mintue anyone can do anything they want wither it positively or negatively affect their life. It's as simple as that to say otherwise is to denounce all freewill

When you keep blaming man for the natural problems of the world, such as cancer, extreme cold, disease and earthquakes, are you speaking of original sin? Because that's a terrible excuse for the world being hostile to life, especially if the god you believe in made humans faulty to begin with. Wouldn't a "merciful" god completely forgive humans for original sin? Earth is very hostile to life, 99% of life that has ever existed has gone extinct.

And free will is an illusion because once again, not all choices are equal. Some people have the choice of making good choices and bad choices, while others have the choice between bad choices and more bad choices. Someone born in a nation that doesn't have health services or clean drinking water isn't gonna have the same choices in life as someone whose parents are well off and live in a stable environment.

I'm not blaming men I'm refuting your claim of nature being hostile. Diseases, exterme weather are not evil nor or they hostile. Nature cannot be hostile towards man. Diseases cannot be hostile towards men. At most they are indifferent which is why the whole premise of nature being hostile is wrong.

Free Will

The ability to act at one's own discretion.

No matter what choice is put in front of it you ultimately decided how to proceed. This isn't a debate about the difference of choices or they kind of choices that different people are given just that ultimately human can make there own choice and do whatever they want to in their life. At any time in anybody life you cam choice to leave your country, to abandon your family, to start a new life, to murder or rob or be a upstanding citizen. This is undeniably and you should take a good hard look at yourself if you think otherwise

You have GOT to be kidding me, diseases and extreme weather are not hostile to life????? So when diseases and tsunamis attack and ruin a person's body, causing suffering, that's not a hostile act??

Trying to survive and sleep in the freezing cold or rain isn't hostile on the body?? Come on man. I'm not saying mother nature is PURPOSELY trying to wipe out all life on Earth, but it damn well isn't welcoming to most of it either.

If I rented a home to someone and purposely put land mines and trap floors in it, people would say I'm being hostile to my tenant. Let's be real here.
 

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