TI’s NYC Show Ends in Shooting (TroyAve's Bodyguard killed,TroyAve Indicted on Shooting Charged )

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blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

This story was the prevailing story of what was speculated.
 
So between him, his people and the engineers/producers nobody thought this might not be a good idea??

Hell I remember when T.I got caught up and pulled the Hurt video back because it looked bad
 
5th Letter;9073129 said:
blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

This story was the prevailing story of what was speculated.

It's the wording and tone of it. It doesn't come across as some "I was fearing for my life" like some were trying to say earlier. It's too braggadocious for the moment. You just got locked up and you release freestyles making it seem like you're bragging about the very shit you were just locked up for, and you expect to finish it with "I'm innocent". Part of selling self defense is garnering sympathy from potential jurors...this does the exact opposite.
 
He's establishing it was self defense which witnesses and video imply and he has 50s jew team. He's gonna beat everything but the firearm charge watch should really get a mistral from the way the police immediately leaked video.
 
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xxCivicxx;9072560 said:
I completely believe what Troy Ave is saying happened

That still doesn't clear up why he decided to fire the gun in a crowded area outside of where he was shot in the first place

Plus wasn't he the original instigator of everything that happened that night anyway?

blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

I don't think he's arguing whether or not he shot at somebody, his defense will be based around what happened leading up to him shooting..

If he can get the judge/jury to see that the circumstances called for him to shoot inside the club then it's a strong possibility that he can be found innocent..

Basically,

if he has a good enough excuse for shooting inside the club, they may have leniency on him..
 
illedout;9073251 said:
xxCivicxx;9072560 said:
I completely believe what Troy Ave is saying happened

That still doesn't clear up why he decided to fire the gun in a crowded area outside of where he was shot in the first place

Plus wasn't he the original instigator of everything that happened that night anyway?

blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

I don't think he's arguing whether or not he shot at somebody, his defense will be based around what happened leading up to him shooting..

If he can get the judge/jury to see that the circumstances called for him to shoot inside the club then it's a strong possibility that he can be found innocent..

Basically,

if he has a good enough excuse for shooting inside the club, they may have leniency on him..

As dumb as these niggas are they know this already they just were itching to go back in hate troy mode since its been awhile
 
ReppinTime;9073205 said:
He's establishing it was self defense which witnesses and video imply and he has 50s jew team. He's gonna beat everything but the firearm charge watch should really get a mistral from the way the police immediately leaked video.

You would think Troy and/or 50 would be smart enough to have a lawyer listen to anything he's about to release to ok it. And maybe they did?

G-g-g-g-g-g-Jew-Unit!
 
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illedout;9073251 said:
xxCivicxx;9072560 said:
I completely believe what Troy Ave is saying happened

That still doesn't clear up why he decided to fire the gun in a crowded area outside of where he was shot in the first place

Plus wasn't he the original instigator of everything that happened that night anyway?

blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

I don't think he's arguing whether or not he shot at somebody, his defense will be based around what happened leading up to him shooting..

If he can get the judge/jury to see that the circumstances called for him to shoot inside the club then it's a strong possibility that he can be found innocent..

Basically,

if he has a good enough excuse for shooting inside the club, they may have leniency on him..

the bolded is now out the question, which may have originally been his best bet. A jusge would have better understanding of extenuating circumstances as opposed to the person off hw street

So that in the least is why this was a bad idea.

You can just hear a promotion- hungry judge usin Troy for his come up.

Humility was his best because going by the letwr of the law is not on his side. It was NOT self defense. He coulda argued extenuating circumstances, temporary delirium. Not now
 
blackrain;9073170 said:
5th Letter;9073129 said:
blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

This story was the prevailing story of what was speculated.

It's the wording and tone of it. It doesn't come across as some "I was fearing for my life" like some were trying to say earlier. It's too braggadocious for the moment. You just got locked up and you release freestyles making it seem like you're bragging about the very shit you were just locked up for, and you expect to finish it with "I'm innocent". Part of selling self defense is garnering sympathy from potential jurors...this does the exact opposite.

He could've done the opposite and y'all would still find something to nitpick.
 
5th Letter;9073357 said:
blackrain;9073170 said:
5th Letter;9073129 said:
blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

This story was the prevailing story of what was speculated.

It's the wording and tone of it. It doesn't come across as some "I was fearing for my life" like some were trying to say earlier. It's too braggadocious for the moment. You just got locked up and you release freestyles making it seem like you're bragging about the very shit you were just locked up for, and you expect to finish it with "I'm innocent". Part of selling self defense is garnering sympathy from potential jurors...this does the exact opposite.

He could've done the opposite and y'all would still find something to nitpick.

Nitpick? This nigga next ten years is on the line. He was put in jail last week for shooting a gun in a club...last week my nigga.... Not even seven days have passed and he release a Mixtape on which he said, at the least, "i grabbed a pussy nigga gun and bust shots cause I'm a G"

Come on man. This ain't no damn nitpick, this is blatant stupidity.

This like a nigga charged with rape releasing a song talking bout how he put Molly in her drank and she ain't even know it, then i pulled off them panties and she ain't even know it, then i busted a nut in her, and went to Tim's house to play x box, and then the cops arrested me and charged me with rape, and here i am...

 
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S2J;9073339 said:
illedout;9073251 said:
xxCivicxx;9072560 said:
I completely believe what Troy Ave is saying happened

That still doesn't clear up why he decided to fire the gun in a crowded area outside of where he was shot in the first place

Plus wasn't he the original instigator of everything that happened that night anyway?

blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

I don't think he's arguing whether or not he shot at somebody, his defense will be based around what happened leading up to him shooting..

If he can get the judge/jury to see that the circumstances called for him to shoot inside the club then it's a strong possibility that he can be found innocent..

Basically,

if he has a good enough excuse for shooting inside the club, they may have leniency on him..

the bolded is now out the question, which may have originally been his best bet. A jusge would have better understanding of extenuating circumstances as opposed to the person off hw street

So that in the least is why this was a bad idea.

You can just hear a promotion- hungry judge usin Troy for his come up.

Humility was his best because going by the letwr of the law is not on his side. It was NOT self defense. He coulda argued extenuating circumstances, temporary delirium. Not now

I agree,

going judge instead of jury would've made more sense cause there's certain things in this case that a judge would understand better than a jury..

However,

Some people feel more comfortable being judged by 12 than putting it all in the hands of one person..
 
SheerExcellence;9073388 said:
5th Letter;9073357 said:
blackrain;9073170 said:
5th Letter;9073129 said:
blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

This story was the prevailing story of what was speculated.

It's the wording and tone of it. It doesn't come across as some "I was fearing for my life" like some were trying to say earlier. It's too braggadocious for the moment. You just got locked up and you release freestyles making it seem like you're bragging about the very shit you were just locked up for, and you expect to finish it with "I'm innocent". Part of selling self defense is garnering sympathy from potential jurors...this does the exact opposite.

He could've done the opposite and y'all would still find something to nitpick.

Nitpick? This nigga next ten years is on the line. He was put in jail last week for shooting a gun in a club...last week my nigga.... Not even seven days have past and he release a Mixtape on which he said, at the least, "i grabbed a pussy nigga gun and bust shots cause I'm a G"

Come on man. This ain't no damn nitpick, this is blatant stupidity.

This like a nigga charged with rape releasing a song talking bout how he put Molly in her drank and she ain't even know it, then i pulled off them panties and she ain't even know it, then i busted a nut in her, and went to Tim's house to play x box, and then the cops arrested me and charged me with rape, and here i am...

Thank god y'all ain't gonna be the judge or jury in this trial. Judging shit based on how he said shit? How silly does that sound? And your analogy is wrong.
 
5th Letter;9073395 said:
SheerExcellence;9073388 said:
5th Letter;9073357 said:
blackrain;9073170 said:
5th Letter;9073129 said:
blackrain;9072917 said:
So this nigga does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

This story was the prevailing story of what was speculated.

It's the wording and tone of it. It doesn't come across as some "I was fearing for my life" like some were trying to say earlier. It's too braggadocious for the moment. You just got locked up and you release freestyles making it seem like you're bragging about the very shit you were just locked up for, and you expect to finish it with "I'm innocent". Part of selling self defense is garnering sympathy from potential jurors...this does the exact opposite.

He could've done the opposite and y'all would still find something to nitpick.

Nitpick? This nigga next ten years is on the line. He was put in jail last week for shooting a gun in a club...last week my nigga.... Not even seven days have past and he release a Mixtape on which he said, at the least, "i grabbed a pussy nigga gun and bust shots cause I'm a G"

Come on man. This ain't no damn nitpick, this is blatant stupidity.

This like a nigga charged with rape releasing a song talking bout how he put Molly in her drank and she ain't even know it, then i pulled off them panties and she ain't even know it, then i busted a nut in her, and went to Tim's house to play x box, and then the cops arrested me and charged me with rape, and here i am...

Thank god y'all ain't gonna be the judge or jury in this trial. Judging shit based on how he said shit? How silly does that sound? And your analogy is wrong.

I'm a lawyer and just a little free advice here...

If you are arrested for a crime don't release a song in which you discuss anything remotely related to the crime you are charged with while you sitting in jail waiting for trial.

Even if you think my advice is stupid, please follow it if you ever in this situation.

You're welcome.
 

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