Thought about the big bang!

[TX_Made713]

Exactly some?

Any closer? No, LOL

Any further? No again, LOL

Of course it does. We evolved on this planet. We are made of the stuff that is here. This shit is tautological.

The point is, if the earth was designed for human life like you are saying, why is it constantly killing us with earthquakes, etc.?

And all of this is an observable NATURAL process. Nowhere does it hint at a hidden supernatural hand.

1. I have a headache..its a typo i meant to say something

2. i meant any further from the sun and we would have no heat keeping the plant life alive which fuels the oxygen in the atmosphere. It wouldnt be possible to exist

3. k

4. because we were born with a death sentence which is another topic in itself

5 im getting to that, hint at PART TWO COMING UP

 

[TX_Made713]

This is what I was talking about earlier.

By cant move any closer you are meaning we couldnt move any closer forward..... except 7.5 billion meters.

As for our planet moving away from the sun... we could move back 37% from where we are now. This is about 50 billion meters.

And KTULU was right, if we and the Earth were designed for one another id would not be constantly trying to kill us off. Mans biggest thing in life is trying to figure out ways to beat the Earth, to keep its elements from destroying us. Even without modern technology we still were public enemy number one on Earth.

Man also has intelligence to not go anywhere near these threats. You cant blame those deaths on a flawed universe

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

TX, you've made the exact same argument before and it's merely an argument from ignorance

you dont know how stuff works, so you assume a supernatural element must be involved

you NEVER have any actual logic or evidence to support that idea, but you stick to it for traditional/emotional reasons

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

You cant blame those deaths on a flawed universe

you cant call a flawed universe a grand design, unless you're admitting god sucks

 

[TX_Made713]

TX, you've made the exact same argument before and it's merely an argument from ignorance

you dont know how stuff works, so you assume a supernatural element must be involved

you NEVER have any actual logic or evidence to support that idea, but you stick to it for traditional/emotional reasons

damn can you wait til i at least get to the grand designer part? I had to explain the natural shit so it would make sense. Its taking me a while to type the shit up. be patient

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Man also has intelligence to not go anywhere near these threats. You cant blame those deaths on a flawed universe

Because we learn from making these mistakes. Man cannot hide from natural disasters though, man cannot run from comets, man cannot live in deserts, man cannot escape solar flares, man cannot outlast extreme cold.

 

[TX_Made713]

Because we learn from making these mistakes. Man cannot hide from natural disasters though, man cannot run from comets, man cannot live in deserts, man cannot escape solar flares, man cannot outlast extreme cold.

Neither can anything else in this universe...

a big enough meteor will destroy any planet

a cold enough temperature will destroy some elements which will collapse stars

heat ironically creates life in the universe(planets, stars, elements, etc). everything has a strength and a weakness

did you expect us to be invincible or something? we are no different from anything else in existence in the space time continuum

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

we are no different from anything else in existence in the space time continuum

exactly, we're a normal part of the natural world

no divine intervention going on

 

[TX_Made713]

exactly, we're a normal part of the natural world

no divine intervention going on

this doesnt disprove a god in any way. it just means we arent special to the point that we dont deserve to end

 

[And Step]

you cant call a flawed universe a grand design, unless you're admitting god sucks

Flawed according to who?

Your and my limited perception?

What some people call flawed, some might call a work in progress toward completion or perfection.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Ok Texas post up the other part, I think the first is flawed to start being you think 7.5 billion meters closer and about 50 billion meters away make the Earth divinely placed because it can only move a "little" bit either way

 

[TX_Made713]

Ok Texas post up the other part, I think the first is flawed to start being you think 7.5 billion meters closer and about 50 billion meters away make the Earth divinely placed because it can only move a "little" bit either way

I never said the shift would be affected by a "little" bit of movement. obviously that wouldnt affect it much.

but if the universe was randomly created and the earth was randomly place by lets say Uranus....this place would be a giant rock with ice all over it

Do you want me to break down the physics of this as well? (the earth and the effects several distances from the sun)

 

[ThaChozenWun]

I never said the shift would be affected by a "little" bit of movement. obviously that wouldnt affect it much.

but if the universe was randomly created and the earth was randomly place by lets say Uranus....this place would be a giant rock with ice all over it

Do you want me to break down the physics of this as well? (the earth and the effects several distances from the sun)

If the Earth was in Uranus place life would have just evolved on whatever planet took it space or was close enough to the sun. Had the sun been any closer or we been further away we would have evolved to adapt to extreme hold/cold

 

[TX_Made713]

If the Earth was in Uranus place life would have just evolved on whatever planet took it space or was close enough to the sun. Had the sun been any closer or we been further away we would have evolved to adapt to extreme hold/cold

Life wouldnt be possible to exist in the first place. The earth would be a giant icy rock. The physics of the situation assuming the earth is designed the same way says its impossible to have otherwise. If there was any type of life then you are saying it was meant to be and there is a designer behind it.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

for the umpteenth time, TX, consider the vast size of this universe

the fact that life arose on a planet or two isn't a big deal at all and gives no hints of design whatsoever

there's oodles and oodles (of o's and o's) of space where not shit is going on

 

[And Step]

Do you think Stephen Hawking and his crew are right now talking about Waka Flocka and Lil Weezy?

 

[And Step]

If the Earth was in Uranus place life would have just evolved on whatever planet took it space or was close enough to the sun. Had the sun been any closer or we been further away we would have evolved to adapt to extreme hold/cold

If the Earth was in the place of Uranus, you would have a hard time sitting down.

 

[TX_Made713]

The grand designer portion

To answer the question about a grand designer, first we gotta figure out is it possible to create
something outside of this universe

everything that exists exists inside the walls of this infinite space field. technically there is nothing beyond that.

but our nothing and Gods nothing are two different things

so is it possible to create another universe using the materials that exist inside this one?

yes. many physicist are actually in the lab attempting to do this now.

The hederon collider is an attempt to replay the beginning of the universe to understand it.

Google the shit to find out how it works, i dont feel like explaining it.

Most particle theories suggest we can make a false vacuum state and in a sense (with the right temperatures, atoms, etc in place) cause a small bubble which will branch off to create a new alternate universe.

I can break down the physics of that but its besides the point. if you want to know pm me and ill explain it

with this knowledge is there a creator?? well if scientist can successfully pull this off and some how travel between the two universes then this can be answered.

Assuming the alternate universe comes up blank..then you know the answer

 

[ThaChozenWun]

If the Earth was in the place of Uranus, you would have a hard time sitting down.

Somebody get this man a contract.

 

[TX_Made713]

for the umpteenth time, TX, consider the vast size of this universe

the fact that life arose on a planet or two isn't a big deal at all and gives no hints of design whatsoever

there's oodles and oodles (of o's and o's) of space where not shit is going on

I am considering the size of the universe, but what does that have to do with anything?