Thee Official Drake vs Meek Mill beef thread

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Man, just don't let me find out Lupe, Kendrick, Krit and a few of my favorite emcees on regular rotation are using ghostwriters. Drake and Meek? Eh... I'd be more upset if I found out Wale was on that fuck shit.
 
Chicity;8257655 said:
Los216;8257584 said:
Chicity;8257562 said:
Los216;8257537 said:
Ok Let's chill for a minute and focus on one specific part in this whole beef

QM was credited on IYRTITL. Let's discuss just the ghostwriting element for a minute. We heard the supposed referenced tracks and we've also head the actual songs on the album. Aside from RICO all of the referenced tracks were hooks and bridges. They also weren't exactly the same word for word on the album.

Does that mean Drake got the influence, flow, vibe etc.. of the songs from QM but Drake himself still wrote the whole song that we hear on the album? Or does this mean that QM wrote the hook and bridge and Drake wrote the verse? Also if Drake is also credited on the songs that QM is credited on does that mean Drake wrote some of the song as well. I feel like if we step away from the memes, jokes, and stanning we can have a legit discussion on the actual ghostwriting.

Right now it doesn't matter if you're a Drake fan/hater or Meek fan/hater. Let's just discuss the reference tracks, the contributions Drake has on those tracks, and the whole ghostwriting issue itself.

Please let's just debate this.

I doubt dude wrote for Drake ala what Biggie did for Puff and Cease or BDK did for Juice Crew or Cube did for NWA.

Seems more like he wrote or helped him with the songs that are currently buzzing. The same songs that's taking Drake from that simp lane to this 6 gawd/Memphis goon lane he current waving on

At the end of the day, having cats in ya crew or around you to keep you grounded and having the tempo of what's hot on our level is expected *What great hasn't* but it seems like Drake didn't use this QM dude to stay grounded, he just took a rapper rhymes and paid him accordingly. Of course no one believed he catching a body like that but Meek saying he ain't even writing about catching a body, he just reciting other niggas catching bodies and that's a no go in my book.

Two points I wanna bring up

1. Meek has also been accused of this by 2 different artist who claim to have wrote songs not just a verse or hook, but whole songs for Meek. Another person has accused Meek of straight up stealing his style. I'm not saying this to distract us from Drake, I'm just saying the nigga that's making the accusations has been accused of the same shit.

2. When is it actually considered ghostwriting verses just having some niggas in the crew help out with various parts of a song?

1) There are no tracks to back up that claim. If it happenedn they necer made tracks spitting the same shit the same way. Eith very clever or very stupid on they part.

Styles...all these niggas sound alike imo. I hear Em in K. Dot. I hear Nas in Cole. I heat Big Boi and Pimp in Krit. I hear Jay in Wayne and Drake. Hell, I hear TI and Pimp in Migos/Future/Bob. We heard Kool G in Nas, BDK and Big in Jay....

2) Ghostwriting is Nas on Big Willie or Grandmaster Caz on rappers Delight or Jay on Chronic 2001 or even D.O.C and Snoop on the Chronic. This shit that's going on now is like ghostbiting, surrounding a cats good bars with ya subpar bars. It gives the allusion yall wrote the track together but when you take his part out you got a turrible track

Ghostbiting? What if I (Drake) sit in the studio with a notepad and I got 3 niggas (OVO) with me and we brainstorm about the lyrics to a song that will eventually become Know Yourself. The first thing I do is decide that I want to call the song Know Yourself. One nigga (QM) starts singing a catchy hook so I start writing it. Another nigga (The Weekend) starts singing the bridge so I start writing that as well. I (Drake) write a verse after that.

The nigga (QM) who thought of the hook goes into the booth and starts singing the hook that he thought of but I (Drake) wrote to a beat that another nigga (40) made. After that he starts singing the bridge that the other nigga (The Weekend) made. I (Drake) am sitting there after writing down all the lyrics to this song and I'm trying to figure out how the flow and tempo of the song should go.

After listening to QM do the song in the both I feel like I got it. I (Drake) think that I know how I want the flow of the song to go now. I (Drake) go into the booth and do the whole song by myself over the beat that 40 made.

How does the credit for that song go?

Who wrote it?

Who's song is it?

Was there a ghostwriter?
 
Brother_Five;8257685 said:
the fuck is this "brainstorming" nonsense?

lol... that aint hip hop...

here go the beat... write your shit... /end

it's that fucking simple. Niggas are writing dissertations of bullshit about this beef
 
This might sound reckless, but here is a way Meek could redeem himself. If he created another track that had some quality. What he could do is invade OVO fest with his people bum rush the stage while Drake is performing and perform his new diss. It would take a lot of balls to do, but I think it would gain him some respect.
 
dwade206;8257695 said:
Ok, where does Meek go from here?

This might sound reckless, but here is a way Meek could redeem himself. If he created another track that had some quality. What he could do is invade OVO fest with his people bum rush the stage while Drake is performing snatch the mike and perform his new diss. It would take a lot of balls to do, but I think it would gain him some respect.

 
http://thenet.ng/2015/07/wwe-legend-the-undertaker-files-500k-lawsuit-against-meek-mill/ yo taker is suing meek for using his theme.lmao taker said"I wouldn’t have filed a lawsuit if the track was actually good. But since he included my theme in a f*cking garbage track, I’m angry. My plain theme song was a better diss itself than Meek Mill’s, If i had a chance, I would love to tombstone Meek Mill."yo this nigga meek is taking Ls left and right
 
270crownst;8257701 said:
http://thenet.ng/2015/07/wwe-legend-the-undertaker-files-500k-lawsuit-against-meek-mill/ yo taker is suing meek for using his theme.lmao taker said"I wouldn’t have filed a lawsuit if the track was actually good. But since he included my theme in a f*cking garbage track, I’m angry. My plain theme song was a better diss itself than Meek Mill’s, If i had a chance, I would love to tombstone Meek Mill."yo this nigga meek is taking Ls left and right

Nooooooooooooo..lol
 
yo some of my fellow brothers and sisters gotta do better in the art of understanding satire.

undertaker aint filed no muthafuckin lawsuit.

im so tired of goin on fb and seein niggas fall for that huzlers website when the shit say its satire lol

undertaker aint even write that theme bruh.
 
Skuurrt_Angle ;8257698 said:
Purr;8257694 said:
king mocha;8257657 said:
https://instagram.com/p/5ztbqNMQgK/

No one gives a fuck what that cac has to saw about hip hop. foh.

Oh, you dont like cac's nah?

Sir, I believe that a white person's opinion on hip hop beef should not be allowed due to the genre being created by black americans. It is one less genre being gentrified and taken away as a "white only" genre (e.g. rock & roll), where black music is laced with white faces; whereas this genre, hip hop, is black music represented by black faces -- where few white faces are able to penetrate into the genre where they must prove themselves (e.g. Eminem); and if they dont, then they will get the boot faster than Iggy Alezia (?) from the culture.

now coon along lil jiggaboo.
 
Been playin back to back on work speakers, just heard it on radio in the whip

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Makes it even worse, my goodness

Gotta give that beige nigga credit he a hitmaker, he dropped the beat at the most potent part, and like the great song makers (not lyricist) he can anticipate which part eeeevrbody is gon rap/sing along with: 'shout out all my boss bitches wifin niggas' *beat drops back in*

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Los216;8257683 said:
Chicity;8257655 said:
Los216;8257584 said:
Chicity;8257562 said:
Los216;8257537 said:
Ok Let's chill for a minute and focus on one specific part in this whole beef

QM was credited on IYRTITL. Let's discuss just the ghostwriting element for a minute. We heard the supposed referenced tracks and we've also head the actual songs on the album. Aside from RICO all of the referenced tracks were hooks and bridges. They also weren't exactly the same word for word on the album.

Does that mean Drake got the influence, flow, vibe etc.. of the songs from QM but Drake himself still wrote the whole song that we hear on the album? Or does this mean that QM wrote the hook and bridge and Drake wrote the verse? Also if Drake is also credited on the songs that QM is credited on does that mean Drake wrote some of the song as well. I feel like if we step away from the memes, jokes, and stanning we can have a legit discussion on the actual ghostwriting.

Right now it doesn't matter if you're a Drake fan/hater or Meek fan/hater. Let's just discuss the reference tracks, the contributions Drake has on those tracks, and the whole ghostwriting issue itself.

Please let's just debate this.

I doubt dude wrote for Drake ala what Biggie did for Puff and Cease or BDK did for Juice Crew or Cube did for NWA.

Seems more like he wrote or helped him with the songs that are currently buzzing. The same songs that's taking Drake from that simp lane to this 6 gawd/Memphis goon lane he current waving on

At the end of the day, having cats in ya crew or around you to keep you grounded and having the tempo of what's hot on our level is expected *What great hasn't* but it seems like Drake didn't use this QM dude to stay grounded, he just took a rapper rhymes and paid him accordingly. Of course no one believed he catching a body like that but Meek saying he ain't even writing about catching a body, he just reciting other niggas catching bodies and that's a no go in my book.

Two points I wanna bring up

1. Meek has also been accused of this by 2 different artist who claim to have wrote songs not just a verse or hook, but whole songs for Meek. Another person has accused Meek of straight up stealing his style. I'm not saying this to distract us from Drake, I'm just saying the nigga that's making the accusations has been accused of the same shit.

2. When is it actually considered ghostwriting verses just having some niggas in the crew help out with various parts of a song?

1) There are no tracks to back up that claim. If it happenedn they necer made tracks spitting the same shit the same way. Eith very clever or very stupid on they part.

Styles...all these niggas sound alike imo. I hear Em in K. Dot. I hear Nas in Cole. I heat Big Boi and Pimp in Krit. I hear Jay in Wayne and Drake. Hell, I hear TI and Pimp in Migos/Future/Bob. We heard Kool G in Nas, BDK and Big in Jay....

2) Ghostwriting is Nas on Big Willie or Grandmaster Caz on rappers Delight or Jay on Chronic 2001 or even D.O.C and Snoop on the Chronic. This shit that's going on now is like ghostbiting, surrounding a cats good bars with ya subpar bars. It gives the allusion yall wrote the track together but when you take his part out you got a turrible track

Ghostbiting? What if I (Drake) sit in the studio with a notepad and I got 3 niggas (OVO) with me and we brainstorm about the lyrics to a song that will eventually become Know Yourself. The first thing I do is decide that I want to call the song Know Yourself. One nigga (QM) starts singing a catchy hook so I start writing it. Another nigga (The Weekend) starts singing the bridge so I start writing that as well. I (Drake) write a verse after that.

The nigga (QM) who thought of the hook goes into the booth and starts singing the hook that he thought of but I (Drake) wrote to a beat that another nigga (40) made. After that he starts singing the bridge that the other nigga (The Weekend) made. I (Drake) am sitting there after writing down all the lyrics to this song and I'm trying to figure out how the flow and tempo of the song should go.

After listening to QM do the song in the both I feel like I got it. I (Drake) think that I know how I want the flow of the song to go now. I (Drake) go into the booth and do the whole song by myself over the beat that 40 made.

How does the credit for that song go?

Who wrote it?

Who's song is it?

Was there a ghostwriter?

Sound like the 4 of yall should form a group instead of trying to pass one guy off as if he doing shit solo

OVO's IYRTITL or some shit like that.

Been awhile since we seen a good organic group and not just a bunch of niggas that the label put together *Black Hippy* or that came together to boost they record sales *Slaughterhouse*

That would make more sense
 
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