Thee Official Drake vs Meek Mill beef thread

[Los216]

Ok Let's chill for a minute and focus on one specific part in this whole beef

QM was credited on IYRTITL. Let's discuss just the ghostwriting element for a minute. We heard the supposed referenced tracks and we've also head the actual songs on the album. Aside from RICO all of the referenced tracks were hooks and bridges. They also weren't exactly the same word for word on the album.

Does that mean Drake got the influence, flow, vibe etc.. of the songs from QM but Drake himself still wrote the whole song that we hear on the album? Or does this mean that QM wrote the hook and bridge and Drake wrote the verse? Also if Drake is also credited on the songs that QM is credited on does that mean Drake wrote some of the song as well. I feel like if we step away from the memes, jokes, and stanning we can have a legit discussion on the actual ghostwriting.

Right now it doesn't matter if you're a Drake fan/hater or Meek fan/hater. Let's just discuss the reference tracks, the contributions Drake has on those tracks, and the whole ghostwriting issue itself.

Please let's just debate this.

I doubt dude wrote for Drake ala what Biggie did for Puff and Cease or BDK did for Juice Crew or Cube did for NWA.

Seems more like he wrote or helped him with the songs that are currently buzzing. The same songs that's taking Drake from that simp lane to this 6 gawd/Memphis goon lane he current waving on

At the end of the day, having cats in ya crew or around you to keep you grounded and having the tempo of what's hot on our level is expected *What great hasn't* but it seems like Drake didn't use this QM dude to stay grounded, he just took a rapper rhymes and paid him accordingly. Of course no one believed he catching a body like that but Meek saying he ain't even writing about catching a body, he just reciting other niggas catching bodies and that's a no go in my book.

Two points I wanna bring up

1. Meek has also been accused of this by 2 different artist who claim to have wrote songs not just a verse or hook, but whole songs for Meek. Another person has accused Meek of straight up stealing his style. I'm not saying this to distract us from Drake, I'm just saying the nigga that's making the accusations has been accused of the same shit.

2. When is it actually considered ghostwriting verses just having some niggas in the crew help out with various parts of a song?

 

[Listencloser]

Hey guys. How's it going? Had a question...

What's the significance of buying bottles for Charlamagne? Why is that even a thing?

Enemy of my enemy and shit. They knew Meek was breaking with Flex at HOT97 so they chose to side with Hot97's rival.

 

[R.D.]

QM did this 100 joint with Game right

Game going drop the ball with the rest of the album but Drake via QM threw him a lifeline

 

[dwade206]

...and still nothing came close to Kendrick's "Control" verse.

That wasn't even a diss lol

Yeah but that shit had more heat and haymakers than all 3 of the bullshit tracks we heard.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Ain't Tip friend a killer

If so drake might have dodged a bullet. Literally.

I'm still outing hands on that nigga though.

word, i coulda sworn i heard tip say in a song or two cap had life or sum, i might have him confused with someone else tip rapped about tho

 

[illedout]

 

[D0wn]

...and still nothing came close to Kendrick's "Control" verse.

And that was over hyped by nerds and radio personalities

U an old ass nigga, what u know about the youth?

 

[R.D.]

Ain't Tip friend a killer

If so drake might have dodged a bullet. Literally.

I'm still outing hands on that nigga though.

word, i coulda sworn i heard tip say in a song or two cap had life or sum, i might have him confused with someone else tip rapped about tho

And you got mad when I said yall was suckas lol

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Ain't Tip friend a killer

If so drake might have dodged a bullet. Literally.

I'm still outing hands on that nigga though.

word, i coulda sworn i heard tip say in a song or two cap had life or sum, i might have him confused with someone else tip rapped about tho

And you got mad when I said yall was suckas lol

u lost me here.

im a sucka cuz im tryna remember rap lyrics?

 

[Purr]

For men, yall are terrible at math.

 

[okaay]

...and still nothing came close to Kendrick's "Control" verse.

That wasn't even a diss lol

Yeah but that shit had more heat and haymakers than all 3 of the bullshit tracks we heard.

No diss but "Control" had 0 quotables. Go ahead post all the heat from that song....I'll wait

 

[gemini86]

this has been a great week for hiphop. i cant remember when it was THIS entertaining. its like meek sacrificed his career so the fans can appreciate hiphop

 

[D0wn]

...and still nothing came close to Kendrick's "Control" verse.

That wasn't even a diss lol

Yeah but that shit had more heat and haymakers than all 3 of the bullshit tracks we heard.

No diss but "Control" had 0 quotables. Go ahead post all the heat from that song....I'll wait

Wat is ya pillow biting ass talking about?

Kendrick had rappers, coaches, and the whole east coast in their feelings...

 

[Purr]

Wait. I thought @sion didn't like drake?! Lol

 

[ChillaDaGawd]

this has been a great week for hiphop. i cant remember when it was THIS entertaining. its like meek sacrificed his career so the fans can appreciate hiphop

You sounding like a little bitch right now

 

[KamPushMe]

Sums up this thread and the beef

 

[Chi Snow]

Ok Let's chill for a minute and focus on one specific part in this whole beef

QM was credited on IYRTITL. Let's discuss just the ghostwriting element for a minute. We heard the supposed referenced tracks and we've also head the actual songs on the album. Aside from RICO all of the referenced tracks were hooks and bridges. They also weren't exactly the same word for word on the album.

Does that mean Drake got the influence, flow, vibe etc.. of the songs from QM but Drake himself still wrote the whole song that we hear on the album? Or does this mean that QM wrote the hook and bridge and Drake wrote the verse? Also if Drake is also credited on the songs that QM is credited on does that mean Drake wrote some of the song as well. I feel like if we step away from the memes, jokes, and stanning we can have a legit discussion on the actual ghostwriting.

Right now it doesn't matter if you're a Drake fan/hater or Meek fan/hater. Let's just discuss the reference tracks, the contributions Drake has on those tracks, and the whole ghostwriting issue itself.

Please let's just debate this.

I doubt dude wrote for Drake ala what Biggie did for Puff and Cease or BDK did for Juice Crew or Cube did for NWA.

Seems more like he wrote or helped him with the songs that are currently buzzing. The same songs that's taking Drake from that simp lane to this 6 gawd/Memphis goon lane he current waving on

At the end of the day, having cats in ya crew or around you to keep you grounded and having the tempo of what's hot on our level is expected *What great hasn't* but it seems like Drake didn't use this QM dude to stay grounded, he just took a rapper rhymes and paid him accordingly. Of course no one believed he catching a body like that but Meek saying he ain't even writing about catching a body, he just reciting other niggas catching bodies and that's a no go in my book.

Two points I wanna bring up

1. Meek has also been accused of this by 2 different artist who claim to have wrote songs not just a verse or hook, but whole songs for Meek. Another person has accused Meek of straight up stealing his style. I'm not saying this to distract us from Drake, I'm just saying the nigga that's making the accusations has been accused of the same shit.

2. When is it actually considered ghostwriting verses just having some niggas in the crew help out with various parts of a song?

1) There are no tracks to back up that claim. If it happenedn they necer made tracks spitting the same shit the same way. Eith very clever or very stupid on they part.

Styles...all these niggas sound alike imo. I hear Em in K. Dot. I hear Nas in Cole. I heat Big Boi and Pimp in Krit. I hear Jay in Wayne and Drake. Hell, I hear TI and Pimp in Migos/Future/Bob. We heard Kool G in Nas, BDK and Big in Jay....

2) Ghostwriting is Nas on Big Willie or Grandmaster Caz on rappers Delight or Jay on Chronic 2001 or even D.O.C and Snoop on the Chronic. This shit that's going on now is like ghostbiting, surrounding a cats good bars with ya subpar bars. It gives the allusion yall wrote the track together but when you take his part out you got a turrible track

 

[king mocha]

https://instagram.com/p/5ztbqNMQgK/

 

[T. Sanford]

You know you messed up when you got non-profit organizations ethering you

 

[ChillaDaGawd]

Just bringing it up again because booty