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IgboNegro;8234073 said:So all these niggas who never heard of Meek before Nicki were asleep when he was dropping dreamchasers 1-3?
AggyAF;8234095 said:So now the IC is full of Drake fans huh
IgboNegro;8234073 said:So all these niggas who never heard of Meek before Nicki were asleep when he was dropping dreamchasers 1-3?
Sion;8234041 said:GetoBoy;8233974 said:Sion;8233898 said:GetoBoy;8233845 said:So...
Hov dissed em
Breezy dissed em
Kim dissed em
X dissed em
Diddy punched em
Common dissed em
Tyga dissed em
Luda dissed em
KDot hit em with a shot
Pusha dissed em
Mook dissed em
And now Meek dissed em.....
And all we've got from him is a lil bar for tyga and Stay Schemin???
Nigga need to just go become a full R&B singer becuz apparently you not wanted here and ppl gonna just keep at you till you take a nigga head off which from the looks of it he ain't gonna be doing
To be fair tho - you gotta pick your battles wisely tho, at his level to go at Hov (he countered with Draft Day) he'd a been Action Bronson'd he could not win there and Jay knew that, the other names, to go at them would have put himself at their level and tier when he's selling 700-800k in the first week & they can barely get a buzz (sorry Luda sorry Common - he took Common's bitch from him too that had to hurt given Common could be his father). His mixtape is platinum for crying out loud. If Kendrick came at him NOW, then a response would make sense but not 2 years ago.
I have to hand it to Drake he does play the game smart. 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Eminem, Kanye West, Lil Wayne they had a track record of niggas that didn't like them that was just as long. Kanye West being the only one to never have been dissed like that - cept for Beans when he was coming at the entire ROC. If I were Drake I wouldn't respond to Meek, Meek's career is on the rocks now, nigga had best year in music after coming home, got Nicki Minaj and his big ass mouth is about to lose it and sabotage his chances for higher levels of success SMMFH. He's going to end up like JR Writer or Juelz Santana in a few years watch...... Drake will make a song saying how niggas do it to themselves and how it's so easy for him. He'll downplay the ghostwriters shit saying everybody in the game (Eazy-E, Dr.Dre, Rick Ross, Game etc.) have had help with songs being written for them and he's written for many artists as well.
It's true, ghost-writing is not cool in Hip-Hop but he'll argue it's a different game now, drop a song and niggas will forget until the next lion comes out the den. The shit Meek saying only confirms the content Drake be singing about - No New Friends, my acting days are over, niggas smile in my face but hiss when I'm not around, etc. etc.
In the end Meek gonna come out of this with a major L, Nicki gonna leave his ass and use it as a springboard to connect with female fans ("I was vulnerable, etc. etc.") so she can make piece with Drake and Meek gonna dig a deeper hole for himself. Meek's problem is he's too sensitive that's prolly why he's so loud and boisterous.
And this is the exact reason why Drake feels so big becuz he gets a life time pass....if somebody bigger then him diss him it's "he can't win so he shouldn't respond" then if somebody not as big does it then it's "Drake bigger then him so he shouldn't respond" how many get out of jail free cards do this nigga get??? I mean shit even lil wayne at least attempted to go bars with jay and even threw shots at nas and 50 b4....niggas wanna treat Drake like he bigger then hip hop then wonder why he act like he bigger then hip hop....
In anything, there always has to be something that can be gained. What would Drake have gotten going at Jay-Z ? We know he's not going to beat him lyrically, we know he can't compete with him musically or career-wise, he'd a killed his own career doing that. If there's something to be gained and nothing lost, Drake will do it. Drake will go at a nigga if it's "safe" to and has everything to gain (Common, Lil Kim). It's not like 50 Cent where niggas were terrified of Fif and he had the sales, label and firepower to back him. Drake in a position where his label is about to crumble, Wayne is trapped, Nicki Minaj is in the crosshair and Birdman not paying nobody. You have to realize it's HIS career, his money and his dream at the end of the day and to go at a peon like Meek Mill could pose disastrous consequences.
The real question here is what does Drake gain from going at a lesser artist like Meek Mill ? He held Meek down when Meek was in jail, featured on his albums and videos, he did enough for him, we don't even know why Meek came at Drake. Is it b/c he think Drake fucked Nicki Minaj, is it b/c he didn't write his verses ? Well if we want to get hypocritical, how are you a street nigga who's signed under a nigga who's never put in no work on the streets and was exposed for being a police officer putting niggas like you in the bing ? That's why I said Meek not the brightest bulb in the room. Drake will look at it like why should he respond on a record if Meek aint do the same ? This is chess not checkers. Better to watch Meek hang himself with enough rope than to hasten it for him and get your hands dirty in the process. Having ghostwriters is one thing but going at Meek Mill is another.... It's not necessary.
Jay-Z did it with most his battles - Dipset, Fat Joe, DMX, Jadakiss, 2Pac, Prodigy, Joe Budden, 50 Cent, etc.
Peezy_Jenkins;8234054 said:charles2;8234045 said:Honestly, I heard Meek's name mentioned before, but I had never heard a track from him until this shit with him and Nikki dropped. If I did, I didn't know it was him. I'm sure most other people are in the same boat. He does owe his recent success to Nikki, period.
As far as Drake, I never respected him much as a rapper just as a hitmaker, so it wouldn't bother me that he didn't write. Now if I found out Jay, Nas, Kendrick, Lupe, and those in their league didn't write, then I'd feel some type of way.
nah bolded aint a fair statement, he was about to do damn near the same numbers on his first album. he really put in work on his own.
kingofkingz;8234109 said:IgboNegro;8234073 said:So all these niggas who never heard of Meek before Nicki were asleep when he was dropping dreamchasers 1-3?
I don't believe that.. them dreamchasers tapes are classic
AggyAF;8234095 said:So now the IC is full of Drake fans huh
charles2;8234045 said:Honestly, I heard Meek's name mentioned before, but I had never heard a track from him until this shit with him and Nikki dropped. If I did, I didn't know it was him. I'm sure most other people are in the same boat. He does owe his recent success to Nikki, period.
As far as Drake, I never respected him much as a rapper anyway, just as a hitmaker, so it wouldn't bother me that he didn't write. Now if I found out Jay, Nas, Kendrick, Lupe, and those in their league didn't write, then I'd feel some type of way.
charles2;8234132 said:Peezy_Jenkins;8234054 said:charles2;8234045 said:Honestly, I heard Meek's name mentioned before, but I had never heard a track from him until this shit with him and Nikki dropped. If I did, I didn't know it was him. I'm sure most other people are in the same boat. He does owe his recent success to Nikki, period.
As far as Drake, I never respected him much as a rapper just as a hitmaker, so it wouldn't bother me that he didn't write. Now if I found out Jay, Nas, Kendrick, Lupe, and those in their league didn't write, then I'd feel some type of way.
nah bolded aint a fair statement, he was about to do damn near the same numbers on his first album. he really put in work on his own.
I didn't say he owes all his success to Nikki, just his recent success. I didn't even know dude had a first album. Ask most people, not people who follow hip hop to where they copping mixtapes from Meek years ago, and they'll say the same. I'm a casual listener, as are most people. I don't follow it like I used to because these newer cats ain't for me. Even his new song with Nikki is trash to me. He ain't saying nothing clever and she was actually better on the track.
Sion;8234177 said:Ross said openly that Drake >>> than Meek, Nicki Minaj gonna leave his ass and nigga just blew away what could have been a huge moment in Meek's career. He should have waited till he was stronger and more stable. Meek looking like he might become the "Adrien Broner of rap". He had everything going well until he got too carried away and killed himself and his reputation.