The Wire (Revisted)

[D. Morgan]

It's the bigger picture though: Stringer wanted to talk bigger picture when it came to cleaning up the money and getting out the streets, but he didn't want to see the bigger picture behind what would happen if all his shit came to light. Hell, I can't recall but the nigga could've not snitched on himself about D'Angelo and Avon would've probably went at Mouzone on his behalf. Or did that setup occur before he even knew about the D'Angelo shit? To add even more insult to injury, he snitched on his best friend of damn near 30 years when he had the option of abandoning the crew like Cutty.

Stringer tortured Brandon, killed D'Angelo, cut deals Avon did not instruct him to while using Avon's name to do so, and THEN snitched to get him jail time.

Stringer is that dude that yells Stop Snitching and the minute he get cornered, he telling on everybody. Worst. Kind. of. Person.

End of the day: Stringer had Stringer killed. Not Avon.

If we're talking about the shittier person, then yeah, I'd agree, it's Stringer. But the question asked which betrayal was worse. Stringer made a decision to have Avon sent back to prison. Avon made a decision to let Stringer be killed.

Avon didn't betray Stringer and thats what you not getting.

 

[313 wayz]

damn....Lt Daniels wilding out

 

[D. Morgan]

damn....Lt Daniels wilding out

People actually find this type of shit funny?

I seen that video with T.I. on dude show and just thought WTF is this shit this dude is on.

Dude seems to get good guests though

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Marlo was an outstanding drug dealer and leader of his crew.

Fuck all the other shit yall niggas is talking about.

Marlo was a scared ass fukk nigga.

only people that look up to him is people who want to be lead by a fukk nigga.

Omar woulda got that nigg eventually

 

[2stepz_ahead]

fuck stringer

Which betrayal was worst.....

A ) Avon letting Brother Muzone line Stringer up

B ) Stringer snitching on Avon so he had to finish that bid

stringer was worse...he didn't have to do that.

Avon was put in a position of my loyalty to a nigga who killed family or ending the world he knows an the connects he had..

shit was simple.....

 

[D. Morgan]

Marlo was an outstanding drug dealer and leader of his crew.

Fuck all the other shit yall niggas is talking about.

Marlo was a scared ass fukk nigga.

only people that look up to him is people who want to be lead by a fukk nigga.

Omar woulda got that nigg eventually

This shit makes no sense.

You must've been watching a different version of the wire then everyone else.

Funny how easy Omar got his brains knocked out though. Marlo still alive doing him.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

I loved the scene where both Stringer and Avon had their moves in motion together talking like nothing was gonna happen.

Avon ended up in Prison, Stringer ended up dead. Both were great hustlers, but Avon had the edge. Stringer tried to be something he wasn't.

stringers arrogance cost him.

he knew Avon never asked about his whereabouts. so when he did, he knew something was up but was too caught up in his own way.the greed git him...he shoulda just postpone the meeting and sit outside to watch the setup

 

[The Lonious Monk]

we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just

for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for

String's fuck up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was

at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.

All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might fuck another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.

Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.

Avon and Stringer are street niggas so they deal with shit from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst fucking thing you can do. End of story.

A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the shit out or start beefing and trying to kill one another. Whats never an option is snitching.

That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so fucked up the way they are now. Too many niggas have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.

Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol

"Real Street Niggas" snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street niggas, etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that bullshit. Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are fucked because niggas are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are fucked up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?

But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.

 

[313 wayz]

Stringer always thought he was smarter than everybody else, thats why I wasn't even mad when Clay Davis snaked String out of his money. He didn't want Avon to go to war with Marlo but he wanted to kill a political figure (Clay Davis) and bring all types of heat to they organization.

 

[D. Morgan]

we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just

for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for

String's fuck up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was

at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.

All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might fuck another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.

Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.

Avon and Stringer are street niggas so they deal with shit from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst fucking thing you can do. End of story.

A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the shit out or start beefing and trying to kill one another. Whats never an option is snitching.

That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so fucked up the way they are now. Too many niggas have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.

Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol

"Real Street Niggas" snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street niggas, etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that bullshit. Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are fucked because niggas are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are fucked up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?

But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.

Pull your skirt down sweeheart.

The fact that you think a snitch is a "REAL" anything says everything I need to know.

Didn't even bother to waste my time reading the rest of the bullshit you posted after the bold.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just

for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for

String's fuck up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was

at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.

All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might fuck another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.

Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.

Avon and Stringer are street niggas so they deal with shit from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst fucking thing you can do. End of story.

A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the shit out or start beefing and trying to kill one another. Whats never an option is snitching.

That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so fucked up the way they are now. Too many niggas have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.

Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol

"Real Street Niggas" snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street niggas, etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that bullshit. Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are fucked because niggas are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are fucked up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?

But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.

Pull your skirt down sweeheart.

The fact that you think a snitch is a "REAL" anything says everything I need to know.

Didn't even bother to waste my time reading the rest of the bullshit you posted after the bold.

lol WTF? Nigga, did you not see the quotation marks in what you bolded? Nevermind, you just exposed yourself so there is no point trying to have a reasonable discussion with you.

 

[MD_PROPER]

Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He lived by rules of the game....point blank period.

On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shots..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

It was never about a connect

 

[MD_PROPER]

It was never about a connect

It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He livedd by rules of the game....point blank period.

On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shota..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

I don't think Avon knew Stringer's true colors before he got knocked. I mean he probably suspected Stringer wasn't the same as him, but Stringer probably truly didn't become who he was until he got the power.

 

[MD_PROPER]

Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...

Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street nigga". He livedd by rules of the game....point blank period.

On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street nigga", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make shit happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street nigga, but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shota..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe shit...

I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the shit Stringer had done

I don't think Avon knew Stringer's true colors before he got knocked. I mean he probably suspected Stringer wasn't the same as him, but Stringer probably truly didn't become who he was until he got the power.

I agree with that....you can see this becoming clear to Avon once he got home

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

It was never about a connect

It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a nigga like Avon can always find a new connect

 

[MD_PROPER]

It was never about a connect

It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer

Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a nigga like Avon can always find a new connect

You right about them moving on, but Muzone basically told Avon he would be cut off in New York...this meant anything his business needed including drugs...Everybody know Avon wanted the crown alone, so that Prop Joe co-op wouldnt have lasted long had Avon been out longer....he never wanted them in is towers to begin with..

 

[R.D.]

Avon was loyal to the game/an honorable nigga

String knew the game was bullshit and ain't give a fuck about honor in that shit

"It's games beyond the games"

String was a better version of Ghost. String could be a slimy nigga..favorite character though...respect his ambition, ruthlessness at times

DeAngelo was probably good when they finally pulled the trigger on him...seemed like he was finally willing to be a man about it, just too late.

 

[Vader_F_Kennedy]

I would have liked to see a back story about how Avon and stringer came to power