The Seven Hermetic Principles

[Bodhi]

Don't be mad at me and try to mess up my thread because you couldn't provide any real evidence for your weed thread.

 

[bambu]

LOL... take it to the weed thread then and shut me down fella.... you tried before and failed miserably........

I already deconstructed the intelligent design thread and there is not much left in this one either.....

And as I stated earlier, I resurrected this thread from the bowels of the R&R....consider it hijacked...

 

[bambu]

Basically to sum it up for you since you can't read... Blacks are better equipped, naturally to survive and escape a dead end in the evolutionary process. If anything, any "lead" that whites have was done purposely. That's what I think.

But when you are confronted with a difference of opinion you cannot defend your thoughts....

If anyone has illustrated low reading skills in this thread it is you... I have provided several references that you constantly ignored.....

And on top of all that you attempted to pass a copy & paste as your own words...

Look homie, we are on the same team. I do not support the theory and somewhat agree with you. However, you should refrain from professing on a subject that you are not knowledgeable about....

These white folks would rip your argument to shreds...

If you are serious about learning more about this subject read the links I posted....

HOTEP

 

[Bodhi]

Maybe you did not read your copy and pasted answer.

Funny. All you did was post links and pictures of books. I copy and pasted for your convenience. I posted the link right before the article. Oh but I guess you would've seen that had you actually read it. My words were right before the link and the 4th post

 

[Bodhi]

But when you are confronted with a difference of opinion you cannot defend your thoughts....

I defended my thoughts and you still haven't replied to them. You've resorted to name calling and being upset about nothing. I don't even know what the fuck your problem is. You posted an image of a roman athlete being on top of the evolutionary line but I could follow that up and put a modern black scholar or athlete above that.

 

[Bodhi]

LOL... take it to the weed thread then and shut me down fella.... you tried before and failed miserably........

I already deconstructed the intelligent design thread and there is not much left in this one either.....

And as I stated earlier, I resurrected this thread from the bowels of the R&R....consider it hijacked...

yeah, you've been trying to bitch at me every chance you've gotten since I came in your weed thread and demanded more evidence. That wasn't a personal attack on you. If you took it that way, I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do about that.

 

[Bodhi]

These white folks would rip your argument to shreds...

Can't do it yourself? Go ahead and bring em in then since you're so convinced that they're superior to you.

 

[bambu]

Maybe you did not read your copy and pasted answer.

Funny. All you did was post links and pictures of books. I copy and pasted for your convenience. I posted the link right before the article. Oh but I guess you would've seen that had you actually read it. My words were right before the link and the 4th post

Exactly, one original paragraph out of 4 titangraphs... I actually posted the book that is responsible for the discussion in the first place...I guess you missed that one

But when you are confronted with a difference of opinion you cannot defend your thoughts....

I defended my thoughts and you still haven't replied to them. You've resorted to name calling and being upset about nothing. I don't even know what the fuck your problem is. You posted an image of a roman athlete being on top of the evolutionary line but I could follow that up and put a modern black scholar or athlete above that.

I did not start name calling nor am I upset....the image was hyperlinked to an article that related to it...

LOL... take it to the weed thread then and shut me down fella.... you tried before and failed miserably........

I already deconstructed the intelligent design thread and there is not much left in this one either.....

And as I stated earlier, I resurrected this thread from the bowels of the R&R....consider it hijacked...

yeah, you've been trying to bitch at me every chance you've gotten since I came in your weed thread and demanded more evidence. That wasn't a personal attack on you. If you took it that way, I'm sorry but there's nothing I can do about that.

I actually appreciate the kick back in the cannabis thread, I did not take it as an attack... I saw you being very arrogant in the intelligent design thread and decided to give you a challenge, nothing personal. Believe it or not I have learned a few things from you in this room....

These white folks would rip your argument to shreds...

Can't do it yourself? Go ahead and bring em in then since you're so convinced that they're superior to you.

I just did it myself.... I do not support the theory that I brought up, as a matter of fact it is my nemesis. I used it to see if you could properly defend our people..... you failed....

And now you gonna flag me down like I'm harassing you..... You are too emotional, I told you that you did not have to respond.

I give these crackers nothing and take from them everything....

I have the knowledge to defend against these types of arguments....your inability to think outside of evolution makes you a victim....

 

[Bodhi]

1. Wrong. It was 2 paragraphs, it was more than what you wrote by yourself and it doesn't really matter but it is more proof that you didn't read the shit. Either way, I answered your question in the same way you posed it. By my own words and by links. If you can't handle the fact that I answered you that way, get over it.

2. You started name calling when you attempted to call me a clown. That's a name other than my own.

3. I stated in the intelligent design thread that what I say and believe is not in arrogance. What I was saying in the i.d. thread was not directed to you and it shouldn't matter to you anyway whether I'm arrogant or not. If I'm wrong, then prove me wrong. But don't act like a bitch because you're taking shit personal that doesn't need to be taken that way.

4. You did not prove it wrong. You did not even debate it.

5. I don't even harp on evolution like you claim I do. I never say that I have any vast knowledge on the subject. I've never told anyone I'm some type of professor. I believe evolution is true and I can tell you why but I don't know everything there is to know on the subject nor have I read every book there is to read on evolution and I don't need to do that to understand the basic concept. One day, my knowledge may be greater in that area but as of right now, most of what I give you has been learned from the books that I have read. And what makes me a victim for believing in something that has been proven to be true? Am I also a "victim" for believing in gravity?

 

[Bodhi]

I used it to see if you could properly defend our people..... you failed....

for what reason? Out of emotional rage? Do you feel embarrassed about how I came at you in your thread? I defended our people and you had nothing else to say about it.

 

[Bodhi]

....consider it hijacked...

you sound like a fuckin geek. Stop taking the shit so serious and get some god damn business about yourself.

I have the knowledge to defend against these types of arguments

Good for you. Use it.

 

[bambu]

1. Wrong. It was 2 paragraphs and it doesn't really matter but it is more proof that you didn't read the shit. Either way, I answered your question in the same way you posed it.

2. You started name calling when you attempted to call me a clown. That's a name other than my own.

3. I stated in the intelligent design thread that what I said was not in arrogance. What I was saying in the i.d. thread was not directed to you and it shouldn't matter to you anyway whether I'm arrogant or not. If I'm wrong, then prove me wrong. But don't act like a bitch because you're taking shit personal that doesn't need to be taken that way.

4. You did not prove it wrong. You did not even debate it.

5. I don't even harp on evolution like you claim I do. I never say that I have any vast knowledge on the subject. I've never told anyone I'm some type of professor. I believe evolution is true and I can tell you why but I don't know everything there is to know on the subject nor have I read every book there is to read on evolution and I don't need to do that to understand the basic concept. One day, my knowledge may be greater in that area but as of right now, most of what I give you has been learned from the books that I have read. And what makes me a victim for believing in something that has been proven to be true? Am I also a "victim" for believing in gravity?

1. 10 sentences, 2 paragraphs or 1 titangraph.... If you re-read the shit you will see how ambiguous it is, and I told you that before. However, you had to poke your chest out and act hard... I told you that it was cool not to respond and also offered something to change the subject(melanin).

2. You got "clowned" after questioning my reading skills. I am sure you have been called worse, if not I can help you with that.

3. You were wrong for ganging up on people when you had numbers with you. I reciprocated the energy that you put out.

4. What the hell are you talking about??? You are the one that slithered out of the debate... that is why it never happened.

5. Of course you are not a victim for believing in gravity.... However, a blind belief in the theory of evolution can be detrimental, as I just proved. I am not sure why you are so confused about the way this ideology continues to be harmful to our people. But you have references now, you can learn more about theory and its ill effects. I think you may be trying to be snide about the books that I shared....rest assured, I have digested them all...

And you keep carrying on..... I will extend the olive branch again....

 

[bambu]

I used it to see if you could properly defend our people..... you failed....

for what reason? Out of emotional rage? Do you feel embarrassed about how I came at you in your thread? I defended our people and you had nothing else to say about it.

The reason was because it is the main argument used by our oppressors.....

No rage... sometimes I use the arguments of my opponents in order to better understand and challenge it, not just on you, but myself also.

I already told you I appreciate the challenge in the cannabis thread???

I think I may have been too harsh brother..... you did not fail your people, I used a poor choice of words on that one. I apologize....

I probably caught you off guard in the first place by taking that position.

My main concern is my people buying into the evolution theory without a good understanding of it. I have seen too often brothers cosigning the theory to their own detriment. You are an intelligent brother, I hope my challenge has opened a desire to learn more about the theory.

HOTEP

 

[Bodhi]

1. Wrong. It was 2 paragraphs and it doesn't really matter but it is more proof that you didn't read the shit. Either way, I answered your question in the same way you posed it.

2. You started name calling when you attempted to call me a clown. That's a name other than my own.

3. I stated in the intelligent design thread that what I said was not in arrogance. What I was saying in the i.d. thread was not directed to you and it shouldn't matter to you anyway whether I'm arrogant or not. If I'm wrong, then prove me wrong. But don't act like a bitch because you're taking shit personal that doesn't need to be taken that way.

4. You did not prove it wrong. You did not even debate it.

5. I don't even harp on evolution like you claim I do. I never say that I have any vast knowledge on the subject. I've never told anyone I'm some type of professor. I believe evolution is true and I can tell you why but I don't know everything there is to know on the subject nor have I read every book there is to read on evolution and I don't need to do that to understand the basic concept. One day, my knowledge may be greater in that area but as of right now, most of what I give you has been learned from the books that I have read. And what makes me a victim for believing in something that has been proven to be true? Am I also a "victim" for believing in gravity?

1. 10 sentences, 2 paragraphs or 1 titangraph.... If you re-read the shit you will see how ambiguous it is, and I told you that before. However, you had to poke your chest out and act hard... I told you that it was cool not to respond and also offered something to change the subject(melanin).

2. You got "clowned" after questioning my reading skills. I am sure you have been called worse, if not I can help you with that.

3. You were wrong for ganging up on people when you had numbers with you. I reciprocated the energy that you put out.

4. What the hell are you talking about??? You are the one that slithered out of the debate... that is why it never happened.

5. Of course you are not a victim for believing in gravity.... However, a blind belief in the theory of evolution can be detrimental, as I just proved. I am not sure why you are so confused about the way this ideology continues to be harmful to our people. But you have references now, you can learn more about theory and its ill effects. I think you may be trying to be snide about the books that I shared....rest assured, I have digested them all...

And you keep carrying on..... I will extend the olive branch again....

You asked me a question, I answered and you wont accept the answer. Now you're pretending to be captain hero over some dumb shit and you still haven't replied to my answer and explained why you wont accept it other than you thinking it's "ambiguous". Basically, you failed at trying to "clown" me. And big shit motherfucker, you can call me worse but it still wont advance your argument so call me all you want, tough guy. If you can continue the debate then do it. If I'm wrong, I'd like to know so I can at least learn something out of this other than the fact than you're a vengeful asshole.

P.S. I wasn't wrong for anything. There are clearly 4 (give or take a comment or two) atheists and 4 or more theists in that debate. If you want to count, go back and look. It only appears we were ganging up on them because their arguments were weak.

 

[Bodhi]

I used it to see if you could properly defend our people..... you failed....

for what reason? Out of emotional rage? Do you feel embarrassed about how I came at you in your thread? I defended our people and you had nothing else to say about it.

The reason was because it is the main argument used by our oppressors.....

No rage... sometimes I use the arguments of my opponents in order to better understand and challenge it, not just on you, but myself also.

I already told you I appreciate the challenge in the cannabis thread???

I think I may have been too harsh brother..... you did not fail your people, I used a poor choice of words on that one. I apologize....

I probably caught you off guard in the first place by taking that position.

My main concern is my people buying into the evolution theory without a good understanding of it. I have seen too often brothers cosigning the theory to their own detriment. You are an intelligent brother, I hope my challenge has opened a desire to learn more about the theory.

HOTEP

However, I would be interested in seeing what you would have answered with if I had asked you the same question

 

[bambu]

I used it to see if you could properly defend our people..... you failed....

for what reason? Out of emotional rage? Do you feel embarrassed about how I came at you in your thread? I defended our people and you had nothing else to say about it.

The reason was because it is the main argument used by our oppressors.....

No rage... sometimes I use the arguments of my opponents in order to better understand and challenge it, not just on you, but myself also.

I already told you I appreciate the challenge in the cannabis thread???

I think I may have been too harsh brother..... you did not fail your people, I used a poor choice of words on that one. I apologize....

I probably caught you off guard in the first place by taking that position.

My main concern is my people buying into the evolution theory without a good understanding of it. I have seen too often brothers cosigning the theory to their own detriment. You are an intelligent brother, I hope my challenge has opened a desire to learn more about the theory.

HOTEP

However, I would be interested in seeing what you would have answered with if I had asked you the same question

A vengeful asshole???.... I think it comes from me reading too many books...

I brought this argument to you because I respect your intelligence brother..... This is indeed one of the most difficult arguments for a supporter of evolution that is of African descent. We tend to look at differentiation of the races as "defects" or recessive (inferior) traits. However, Europeans see the adaptations as natural selection or evolution. It places you at a disadvantage due to the fact that if you support natural selection you have to apply it to the races. In doing so you unwillingly cosign European superiority. As the "newest" race, the European embodies the natural selection that is outlined in Darwin's theory. They suggest that the lack of melanin and physical stature compared with the African has created an advanced level of intelligence. Although you and I know this is bullshit, there is a 400 year old body of "evidence" that is growing daily to support their theory.

I have seen some argue that there is not a large enough degree of differentiation between the races to establish any natural selection, but this would suggest that somehow humans are unique in that the evolutionary processes does not affect them. Basically a divine intervention that halts the natural selection only at the human level. Kind of goes against the whole theory.

Of course the other argument is creationism, which I am sure you disagree with.

Does natural selection stop with humans, are we it? Or does evolution apply to the races?

You said "Blacks are better equipped, naturally to survive and escape a dead end in the evolutionary process. If anything, any "lead" that whites have was done purposely. That's what I think." That's also what I think....

Its kind of a loaded question, if you say evolution stops with humans then you also stop evolution, from what I understand this would be impossible or divine. On the other hand if you apply this process to the races, you begin to tread on thin ice with the "evidence" of modern European supremacy. (This is where you need the references I posted: The Bell Curve, Eugenics A Reassessment and research from the pioneer fund in order to fully understand the scope of European fuckery and also have the tools to deconstruct it). As you stated this was done purposely. However, purpose and intent are included in natural selection (the lion purposely camouflages in the long grass to catch his prey).

There seems to be a consensus about the harmful effects of eugenics, this is why the study has redefined itself as Bio-demography

The way that I address this argument is to embrace only this component of ID "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection" and then proceed to deconstruct every European theory in sight. Including Darwin's....

It works for me I am agnostic, but an atheist may have problems accepting that component of ID. You will no doubt learn your best argument when you become more familiar with some of the research surrounding the theory.

Excuse the titangraph, but I have spent a lot of time researching this subject and I am positive that Darwin's theory is detrimental to our people.

I will also make a thread concerning evolution and eugenics when I get some free time....

HOTEP

 

[Bodhi]

I brought this argument to you because I respect your intelligence brother.....

thank you. I'm at the hospital but I'll read the rest of that on my next break

 

[Bodhi]

Personally, I would address the bullshit and lies from whites to support their racist theories instead of turning our backs on the best explanation, imo, for the origin of species. But I will have to give you a more detailed answer when I have the time to think more clearly. Give me about a day.

 

[Bodhi]

In the meantime, what do you think about i.d. theories other than creation attributed to a creator god? For instance, the theory that life was seeded on earth from some distant location, or the theory of alien intervention?

 

[bambu]

The only real aspect of I.D. that I can cosign is the one that I mentioned earlier. I kind of agree with the incorporation of the sciences and spirituality (kind of like in the ancient world), but I cannot get down with the rest of the Christian supported theory. Like I said before, sometimes this puts me in the same boat with the "religious right", but our beliefs are totally opposite.

I was real heavy on the alien intervention stuff back in the days when I read Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse (1991). But since then I have pretty much let all of that go.

I understand that several creation stories mention that life on earth was seeded from a distant location or aliens, but I think that these can all be explained as mythological tales(no real extraterrestrial activity). However, there is one that I cannot pin-down yet. The Dogon (West African) tales of life being created from a distant star that Europeans only discovered in the 1970's is intriguing, but until I get some more understanding of the culture and story, I have to include it with the others as a mythological story.