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[Kwan Dai]

Exactly. I defy any of these niggaz on here talkin' that "pac wasn't lyrical" shit, to tell me a song that Immortal Technique, Canibus, or one of these other cornball niggaz these faggots on here be dick ridin', to tell me one song these niggaz made that has any kind of staying power or touches or penetrates niggaz soul/consience worldwide like "So Many Tears" or "Dear Mama". How about "Changes" or "Keep Your Head Up"? These lyrics are discussed and dissected on college campuses across America. Tell me one university where one of these so-called "lyrical" niggaz is studied. Them cats is hella wack. They don't speak on the Black Condition, teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, politics, or just plain old everyday shit that niggaz go thru, but they can tell you how to sell coke or shoot a nigga in words you don't understand, so that makes them nicer than Pac? Fuck outta here clown. I don't even believe you niggaz believe that shit yourselves. Some of you mothafuckas just wanna argue against the grain and hear yourself talk. Shit's gettin' old for real.

You need stop ranting like a child and type something that's actually well thought out. Their have been several Hip Hop artists and various parts of Hip Hop discussed on college campuses. I don''t do other grown folks homework .It would be best for you to correct yourself by actually looking into how incorrect you are. The songs that you mentioned TOUCHED YOU!!! And that's great I'm glad Pac had a positive influence on YOU!! But you look quite the fool projecting as if PAC was the FIRST and only Hip Hop artist to speak on the Black Condition. So, instead of ranting like a child do some homework instead of charging people of the very things your emotional is typing for all to see.

 

[mr. blackpowerman]

And yet you couldn't address one of my points, so you try to throw the discussion in a different direction with your bullshit. I don't care if I'm taken seriously on an internet forum. If I did, then that would make me a clown like you.

 

[mr. blackpowerman]

Get the fuck off my dick pussy. Why are you quoting me like I'm addressing you personally? That let's me know that every word of that venom I typed above stung like a knife. And if you think that those songs only touched me and not millions around the world, which equated to Tupac being the bestselling Hip-Hop artist of all time, then you're not only a pussy internet stalker, but you're delusional as well. Don't tell me how to post fuck nigga. You don't like the way I post? Then stop reading my shit. But i bet you won't will you. You'll continue to read every fuckin' word because I intriuge you just that much.

 

[Kwan Dai]

There was nothing to address in your Post. You posted a hissy fit. It wasn't even a co-herent opinion.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Get the fuck off my dick pussy. Why are you quoting me like I'm addressing you personally? That let's me know that every word of that venom I typed above stung like a knife. And if you think that those songs only touched me and not millions around the world, which equated to Tupac being the bestselling Hip-Hop artist of all time, then you're not only a pussy internet stalker, but you're delusional as well. Don't tell me how to post fuck nigga. You don't like the way I post? Then stop reading my shit. But i bet you won't will you. You'll continue to read every fuckin' word because I intriuge you just that much.

Wrong again!!!

This is a public forum and your childish rants are addiing nothing to the discussion. So, you continue with the Delusions of spitting Venom and I will continue to point out how childish your post are. You are pure entertainment just like Pac with MINIMAL substance. You are a fake gangster just like Pac. You are intriguing at all. You are more like a Mosquito buzzing around in the summer. Just annoying.

 

[mr. blackpowerman]

Wrong again!!!

This is a public forum and your childish rants are addiing nothing to the discussion. So, you continue with the Delusions of spitting Venom and I will continue to point out how childish your post are. You are pure entertainment just like Pac with MINIMAL substance. You are a fake gangster just like Pac. You are intriguing at all. You are more like a Mosquito buzzing around in the summer. Just annoying.

Whatever pussy. I'm so annoying that you keep feeling the need to respond to me. And fake gangster? Highly unlikely you would say any of this shit if I was standing right in front of you. I'd be willing to bet my life on it. So keep the tough talk on the internet up you fuckin' clown. Maybe someone here will be impressed. I'm thru with you. You're the one with the rants. I only hold intelligent dialouge. Piss off simpleton.

 

[Focal Point]

He was lyrical he spit shit that dealt imagery and feelings, however when compared to other rappers when it comes to bar complexity he is far behind

Lyrically Pac>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay

Bar Complexity (vocab, metas, similies, etc.) Jay>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pac

 

[Kwan Dai]

Whatever pussy. I'm so annoying that you keep feeling the need to respond to me. And fake gangster? Highly unlikely you would say any of this shit if I was standing right in front of you. I'd be willing to bet my life on it. So keep the tough talk on the internet up you fuckin' clown. Maybe someone here will be impressed. I'm thru with you. You're the one with the rants. I only hold intelligent dialouge. Piss off simpleton.

But you aren't standing here so, that's obviously beside the point. You are indeed fooling yourself. You rushed up in here like MR.T and checked on it. Fake Azz Gangster.

 

[The Illest Corpse]

Tupac - Scarred straight

[Verse 1:]

You're about to feel the wrath, a psychopath when this song play

Get iller than Johnny Gill and rub you the wrong way

Fuck sensitivity I get cruel when you're doing me

Cause none of the rough stuff bitch stop pursuing me

So true to the game, it's a name you don't dare say

A lyrical lunatic when I kick it your scared straight

Motherfucker's fall way to the roster

You step any closer and get hit with a dose of

The iller-fied pimping-ass gang to bang to

And I ain't ashamed to, get wicked with slang to

Niggas know, when I flow, I can give you mo'

Get sicker than psycho, and won't let the Mic, go

Till I hear the whole crowd on they two feet

As I go through new beats, I'm running through MC's

Nigga please you dizzy, you can't take me

You stumble through break beats but you'll never fade me

Scared straight cause you hate, when I motivate

You suffer a different fate, when music I mutilate

But some of the super suckers try to stop me

I'm gunning and running the stupid motherfucker's now they jock me

What if I should trip? Or chill and a give fair break

Fuck it they feel the wrath of a motherfucker scared straight

[Chorus:]

You scared motherfucker you scared?

I know you scared motherfucker you scared (Ah, yeah, scared straight)

Cause I can hear your heart beating, heavy breathing

I can see the sweat, trickling from your head

You scared motherfucker you scared?

I know you scared motherfucker you scared (When your heart's beating)

Cause I can hear your heart beating, heavy breathing I can see the sweat, trickling from your head

[Verse 2:]

Feel the funky funk house buster you'll get rolled on

No matter how much they bring, I duck and dodge and hold on

Best a watch the swing

Nigga the game is so strong, catch me by surprise

You won't realize your hoe's gone

Nigga I'm on the creep

And if I know your address, girls as good as stuck

She eating my Mr. Badness

Pac don't give a fuck, I got too many enemies

Fucking with the ginger juice the booze of fucking Hennessy

The closer they can get

But still don't let them see me sweat, suckers ain't trying to step

They know they'll be breathing they last breathe

Niggas ain't got no heart, but swear that they be rocking shit

Till they get a load of the bold ass 2Pacalypse

Tell them to bring the noise, and look like they wanna rift

Brother this is ain't a game, a crook's what's you're fucking with

Hitting him with the flurry, I'll bury him if he steps to me

Sucker's can't get next to me, tripping off some Ecstasy

Literal life insanity, even a form of suicide

This ain't BBD, try doing me you're do or die

Dropping them like a Mack, and smacking them like a weak bitch, nigga don't even twitch

Cause them I'ma have to pull the switch

Victory to the switch, so fuck 'em if they, try to break

Freaking 'em with the funk left them drunk

Hella scared straight

Hell yeah

Scared straight

[video=youtube;PKNOtfqasis]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKNOtfqasis[/video]

 

[usmarin3]

typical Pac line

" my enemieeeeesss tryna kill meh, the hennesseeyyyyy is stong can you feel meh, mind of a soulja is what i told ya"

 

[Boomsheeka89]

Honestly, I'm not exactly sure what you guys base your opinions off of, but it can't be much. Especially, if you feel that Pac had no lyrical talent. Whoever said that Pac was no MC, was exactly right... he was an icon, a legend, above MCs. How can someone not be considered lyrically talented, but accomplish as much as he did. Pac has been named the #1 MC of all time, not by one, but three different sources: MTV, VH1, and BET. He's in the Hip-Hop Hall of Fame, as well as the Rock'N'Roll Hall of Fame. There are colleges that study him. A professor of communications, of Northeastern University, wrote a book about Pac, beyond his "rap" life. He was so much more than what people made him out to be, and if you think otherwise it's because you've been brainwashed to think that the mess you listen to now is music. There is no other rapper, and i say again, THERE IS NO OTHER RAPPER, that delivered anything like Pac. From his lyrics to their meanings, no one has been able to master the game as he did.He mastered every element of rap. Impact, look at the impact he has had on the "rap" game as an "MC". Who else is looked up to as much as Pac? No one, because there is no one else like him. He had a talent lyrically, as well as intellectual. When you mix the two, you get the best. People think now, you have to be thugged out, hard, lot of women, lot of materials things, and they talk about everything they have except an education. Pac wasn't afraid to let anyone know he was smart, and that made him that much better then everyone else. I put Pac on a high pedistool,as well as majority of the world. Not to mention, he is the Top Earning Amongst the Dead! In 2002, alone he made an estate of $15million, and he's no longer on this Earth. People feel like he wasn't much because when Pac was out they were just growing up, then when they finally got old enough to actually relate to him, it was too late because he was no longer here. So, look at the artists you're stuck with: I mean really! Saying he isn't lyrical is placing him on a level with people, like Lil' Flip, Soulja Boi, Gucci Mane, and many others!! THERE IS NO ONE, NO ONE, THAT IS ON HIS LEVEL! HIS LEGACY LIVES ON...13YRS LATER!!

 

[Kwan Dai]

You lie like a rug.

Chuck D, KRS-One, Nas, Brand Nubian, Rakim, Xclan and on and on. If, Pac caught your attention then so be it but there are many that do not feel this way. I mentioned earlier there are several artist that have been studied at the University level as well, as other form of HIP HOP. Stop making up shit as if PAC was the First or one and ONLY. Any Subject matter Pac touched was DONE YEARS BEFORE his arrival in Music. Also, to get the to topic at hand Hammer Sold Records, Vanilla Ice, Young MC etc etc and none of them were lyrical. If, you like Pac that's a good thing but the extra some of you are coming with just isn't factual, creepy and borderline insane.

 

[biggar]

Pac was real. That makes him ill

 

[Kwan Dai]

Real what?

 

[usmarin3]

Ice Cube > Pac

Lil Kim course is taught at colleges too and so is The Simpsons too, lets not act like it's something special.

 

[Boomsheeka89]

You lie like a rug.

Chuck D, KRS-One, Nas, Brand Nubian, Rakim, Xclan and on and on. If, Pac caught your attention then so be it but there are many that do not feel this way. I mentioned earlier there are several artist that have been studied at the University level as well, as other form of HIP HOP. Stop making up shit as if PAC was the First or one and ONLY. Any Subject matter Pac touched was DONE YEARS BEFORE his arrival in Music. Also, to get the to topic at hand Hammer Sold Records, Vanilla Ice, Young MC etc etc and none of them were lyrical. If, you like Pac that's a good thing but the extra some of you are coming with just isn't factual, creepy and borderline insane.

u should check urself, and everything else because none of it was extra. The artists you mentioned are, i guess ok, but everything's based on opinions anyways. But, I'm no where insane, sorry, wrong guy.

 

[Boomsheeka89]

Ice Cube > Pac

Lil Kim course is taught at colleges too and so is The Simpsons too, lets not act like it's something special.

It's not about them being taught at colleges, universities, etc. It's about what's being taught about that individual. Don't make it seem like that's what I was trying to make so important about Pac, cuz I wasn't, it was just an added fact. Come on now... play someone else, please.

 

[Kwan Dai]

So your long and drawn post about who has said Pac is #1, his music being studied at Univ, his 15 million dollar estate, etc wasn't extra? The tile of this thread concerns LYRICAL ability not any of the Extra homage you decided to bestow upon Pac. I also didn't mention said artists as my opinion. You painted Pac as the LONE Hip Hop entity. I simply pointed out your inaccuracies.

 

[Kwan Dai]

It's not about them being taught at colleges, universities, etc. It's about what's being taught about that individual. Don't make it seem like that's what I was trying to make so important about Pac, cuz I wasn't, it was just an added fact. Come on now... play someone else, please.

I say this with respect. There is no way in hell some of you are actually reading what you type. You said to me "u should check urself, and everything else because none of it was extra"

Then you just said to USmarine3 "Don't make it seem like that's what I was trying to make so important about Pac, cuz I wasn't, it was just an added fact."

I don't get it.

 

[redhandedbandit]

pac was ok but cats be acting like he was the savior Nas got mad powerful shit and even Jay does and they are both lyrically superior to pac. Pac had emotion in his music thats whAt set him apart but dudes really take dickriding to another level when pac is involved. dude was good not the greatest one of the greatest top ten most def but not the best