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jamacia;1132266 said:
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.. welp looks like i'm dying now .
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I am dumb yet i am praising your fave Artist @ Jamaica not am i just praising him i am stating the obvious is it not true that it's hard to find a Hip-Hop fan or a Music fan in general that doesn't think Illmatic is a classic?
Is it not true Stillmatic & It Was Written are dope Album's and some of his best after Illmatic?
Is it not true that when people think of Nas they think of good Lyricism?
It seems sometimes you act bi polar Jamaica i don't understand the spamming & immaturity especially since you said Nas is a Lyricist and Illmatic is a classic yourself
Is it not true Stillmatic & It Was Written are dope Album's and some of his best after Illmatic?
Is it not true that when people think of Nas they think of good Lyricism?
It seems sometimes you act bi polar Jamaica i don't understand the spamming & immaturity especially since you said Nas is a Lyricist and Illmatic is a classic yourself
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Yes I believe Illmatic is a classic and Nas a lyricist but this thread is pointless.
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Technically it all comes down to opinion each invidual around the world that listens to Music any genre will have an opinion on what they think is a classic Album
For me and most people will say this a classic Album is an Album a person plays from start to finish with out skipping any Song's and an Album people play on a consitant basis and play years after it was first released
I think impact plays a role how the Album influenced others, how it got awards and how it was talked about by the public and industry
Lyricism, Hook's & Production is a factor but this also comes down to opinion it all is based on what the invidual likes but generally people can have a collective opinion on what is great Lyricism, Hook's are Production but technically it is still opinions and personal taste
But i think the most correct way of defining a classic away from personal opinion is the publics universal consensus if most people worldwide think such and such is a classic then i think people should accept for the most part the general public around the world have given so on so Album that classic stamp of approval even if you as an invidual don't think it's a classic
For me and most people will say this a classic Album is an Album a person plays from start to finish with out skipping any Song's and an Album people play on a consitant basis and play years after it was first released
I think impact plays a role how the Album influenced others, how it got awards and how it was talked about by the public and industry
Lyricism, Hook's & Production is a factor but this also comes down to opinion it all is based on what the invidual likes but generally people can have a collective opinion on what is great Lyricism, Hook's are Production but technically it is still opinions and personal taste
But i think the most correct way of defining a classic away from personal opinion is the publics universal consensus if most people worldwide think such and such is a classic then i think people should accept for the most part the general public around the world have given so on so Album that classic stamp of approval even if you as an invidual don't think it's a classic
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1. Has the ability to transcend the genre Not only a Hip Hop classic but a music classic .
2. No lame tracks. Even if the track isn't your favorite lyrically and musically its superior.
3. Gives life to the genre. (ie College Dropout)
4. The flow of the CD . A CD may have 20 great track but doesnt flow well together on a CD. This IMO that counts for alot . A good example of a great CD that also flowed well is Muddy Water
5. Ability to stand the test of time . Great music in all genres doesnt sound dated . If the music and the lyrics are classic you can play it 20 years from now and it still is a classic. Scarface " Untouchable "
2. No lame tracks. Even if the track isn't your favorite lyrically and musically its superior.
3. Gives life to the genre. (ie College Dropout)
4. The flow of the CD . A CD may have 20 great track but doesnt flow well together on a CD. This IMO that counts for alot . A good example of a great CD that also flowed well is Muddy Water
5. Ability to stand the test of time . Great music in all genres doesnt sound dated . If the music and the lyrics are classic you can play it 20 years from now and it still is a classic. Scarface " Untouchable "
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People are stupid, and most people have low I.Q.'s when it comes to actual music.
Some Maniacs allow their adoration for the actual artist effect their opinion of the music.
Awards dont mean shit, they are simply a popularity contest prize.
I cant imagine that Emenim would actually use an artform created by Afrikan Americans to use racist vitriol against Afrikan Americans
he is a complete fraud.
Some Maniacs allow their adoration for the actual artist effect their opinion of the music.
Awards dont mean shit, they are simply a popularity contest prize.
I cant imagine that Emenim would actually use an artform created by Afrikan Americans to use racist vitriol against Afrikan Americans
he is a complete fraud.
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Mrslim1;1139621 said:
2. i think is very much opinion based
Aside from the good points you made i will add that by most peoples view a classic Album will have Song's that are heart felt that doesn't mean every Song from start to finish will be an introperspective heart felt Song but the Album will have it's sharre
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hrap-120;1139632 said:
I think some Artist a long time ago said something that is true i just can't remember who said it though but they said
Some Artists in Rap are adored by so many people that a lot of the youth look up to them more than they look up to their parents
We have to face the fact that people like Jay Z, Eminem, 2pac, B.I.G. and many others are loved by so many people in many countries and for people to love them so much that means to these people that particular Artist has made great Music for them to affect so many different people and get that much love
But we can't get away from the fact it really is all opinion based every invidual will love a different Artist based on taste
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ShadyTeam;1139635 said:
I disagree. The reason I disagree is because that good music it some opinion but it is also sometimes fact. Musicianship , instrumentation and lyricism are something that can be taught and mastered . You can hear if someone uses different chords and harmonies ( ie Earth Wind and Fire ) or if some uses triple rhyme patterns or internal rhymes . And if those lyrics make sense and tell a story and are delivered with passion . Just what I think
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Mrslim1;1139621 said:
I agree with your post except that great albums released in the 80's and 90's do sounded dated, but replay value is what counts the most.
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ShadyTeam;1139650 said:
See Hip Hop is not my musical compass . My musical compass are great musicians and songwriter . Stevie Wonder , Ray Charles . John Lennon , Chris Dave , Robert Glasper , Miles Davis etc. Classics Hip Hop are the ones that come closet to that musically . What people tend forget about Hip Hip that its MUSIC. You have to make good quality MUSIC not just be able to rap. Yea some Hip Hop albums are classic because they pioneered the movement . But as the Genre gets older artist have to be more into to what good MUSIC really is , not what banging in the hood
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