The OTTB Wrestling News thread

[BangEm_Bart]

Wrestlers should earn fans respect before being champs, not be chosen because some old racist white guy has a fetish for muscles.

This is what makes the attitude era and indies better. The fans chose Austin/Rock/Foley. In turn, those wrestlers fed off the crowd cheers and talked shit day in and day out, putting on great matches for the ppl. Dwayne paid attention to the ppl and made sure they smelled what the Rock was cooking. Reigns winks at all the bitches and pushes his relaxer to the back of his head. Niggas don't wanna see a nigga winking at them every Monday night cause that's gay af. Niggas don't wanna see a rapping wigga wannabe either. They want the underdog that they can relate to. The person that comes out and wrestles for the belt to bring home to his wife and son because he was told he would be nothing all his life (Kevin Owens). They wanted the guy that ppl looked at as too small to be champ but deep down was a genuinely, good heartfelt guy (Daniel Bryan). The list goes on but when you have a creative team that steps off the narcissistic high horse and looks for the rags to riches story to build from then you have great PPVs and great stories to tell.

If Roman wasn't so scripted and explained the pain in his heart of trying to please the fans but can't win their hearts because he can never fill the shoes of his Uncle Dwayne or grandfather Jimmy Snuka as he turned heel and went into a jealous rage taking out the top wrestlers, fans would feed into it. But it's so poorly written and scripted where you can't say certain words or curses that everyone comes off as fake as if they're talking for Vince.

#ventover #clickfeelings #bartsfadetourtowhoeverdoesit

 

[Already Home_17]

I think you screw reigns out the belt in the most fucked up way at mania. Triple h celebrates then Shane helps him out in some way

that's already happened, twice lol

 

[its....JOHN B]

I think you screw reigns out the belt in the most fucked up way at mania. Triple h celebrates then Shane helps him out in some way

Can see this happening if Shane wins his match

 

[BeleeDatPleighboy]

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon apparently wants the upcoming WrestleMania 32 event to be the start of "several years" of Roman Reigns in the company's top spot that was formerly held by John Cena.

According to the report, "the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come."

The overall attitude within WWE is that it doesn't really make a difference if the fans boo Reigns because, as is evident with Cena, cheers and boos aren't damaging to the babyface of a franchise such as WWE, and diverse reactions from fans can often be seen as a good thing since they can launch stars to bigger levels of business. However, it's also well known that Reigns is not as big of a star as Cena, even though his merchandise numbers are good.

Fans getting worked breh...

No way shit like this "leaks" after what happened in Detroit.

Dont be surprised to see Roman turn at or after Mania....

They bout to give us our heel Roman wish...

 

[BeleeDatPleighboy]

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon apparently wants the upcoming WrestleMania 32 event to be the start of "several years" of Roman Reigns in the company's top spot that was formerly held by John Cena.

According to the report, "the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come."

The overall attitude within WWE is that it doesn't really make a difference if the fans boo Reigns because, as is evident with Cena, cheers and boos aren't damaging to the babyface of a franchise such as WWE, and diverse reactions from fans can often be seen as a good thing since they can launch stars to bigger levels of business. However, it's also well known that Reigns is not as big of a star as Cena, even though his merchandise numbers are good.

Reigns does nothing well and is average at best at everything all he has is a look.

U don't think he's improved into a good worker?

When it comes to being the franchise player in ring is irrelevant. It's about having charisma and a personality which hate him or love him Cena had in spades. Reigns can't even be moved past the tired ass Shield gimmick and theme due to his lack of engagement outside the ring.



The only star making quality he literally posseses is "the look" and that alone won't cut it. He got the charisma of a wet mop and personality of a plank of wood right now.

I think we cant his charisma cause they not letting him be him...point blank

Remember..Uncle Dwayne SEEMED boring af too....

And I dont really think that DB was a big ball of charisma or personality either...his underdog story is what got him over...

 

[BeleeDatPleighboy]

Prolem with Roman is two things imo and most others

1) No character deveplment. Move on from the shield. Or at the very least tell us why you still using it. (Holding on hope that your brothers will reunite)

2) his story doesnt match him. He shouldnt be an underdog. His story should be of a guy trying to live up to his family name and continue the legacy of greatness. THAT story is beleivable or even trying to make it in the biz w/o relying on his family name. Doing it on his own.

 

[5th Letter]

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon apparently wants the upcoming WrestleMania 32 event to be the start of "several years" of Roman Reigns in the company's top spot that was formerly held by John Cena.

According to the report, "the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come."

The overall attitude within WWE is that it doesn't really make a difference if the fans boo Reigns because, as is evident with Cena, cheers and boos aren't damaging to the babyface of a franchise such as WWE, and diverse reactions from fans can often be seen as a good thing since they can launch stars to bigger levels of business. However, it's also well known that Reigns is not as big of a star as Cena, even though his merchandise numbers are good.

Reigns does nothing well and is average at best at everything all he has is a look.

U don't think he's improved into a good worker?

He's still average at best in the ring.

 

[5th Letter]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

 

[willhustle]

Vince McMahon wants WrestleMania 32 to be the start of several years of Roman Reigns in the top spot formerly held by John Cena.

“As of right now, the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come,” Dave Meltzer states in this week’s edition of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

The company attitude is that it doesn’t matter if fans boo him. It isn’t the late eighties and WWE’s success isn’t tied to one wrestler on top. The WWE brand is what drives money and most fans will find something to like. John Cena is living proof that boos or cheers aren’t damaging for a franchise babyface, and if anything, the diverse reactions could be a good thing. It certainly propelled Cena to huge levels of business. He’d get booed out of the building each week while drawing significantly more money than anyone else.

Reigns, however, is not as big a star as Cena. The audience at Fastlane and at Raw booed him heavily when he’s supposed to have his most momentum building to his big win. His merchandise numbers are good, but nowhere near Cena level.

Read more:http://www.pwmania.com/wrestlemania...-of-roman-reigns-dominating-wwe#ixzz41HZp9ynN

 

[Broddie]

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon apparently wants the upcoming WrestleMania 32 event to be the start of "several years" of Roman Reigns in the company's top spot that was formerly held by John Cena.

According to the report, "the plan is for Reigns to go over and be the top babyface in the company for years to come."

The overall attitude within WWE is that it doesn't really make a difference if the fans boo Reigns because, as is evident with Cena, cheers and boos aren't damaging to the babyface of a franchise such as WWE, and diverse reactions from fans can often be seen as a good thing since they can launch stars to bigger levels of business. However, it's also well known that Reigns is not as big of a star as Cena, even though his merchandise numbers are good.

Reigns does nothing well and is average at best at everything all he has is a look.

U don't think he's improved into a good worker?

When it comes to being the franchise player in ring is irrelevant. It's about having charisma and a personality which hate him or love him Cena had in spades. Reigns can't even be moved past the tired ass Shield gimmick and theme due to his lack of engagement outside the ring.



The only star making quality he literally posseses is "the look" and that alone won't cut it. He got the charisma of a wet mop and personality of a plank of wood right now.

I think we cant his charisma cause they not letting him be him...point blank

Remember..Uncle Dwayne SEEMED boring af too....

And I dont really think that DB was a big ball of charisma or personality either...his underdog story is what got him over...

Charisma is an allure though. It's not something that could be learned. You either have that aura about you or you don't.

DB had a shitload of charisma. He lit up any room he walked in. I think you're confusing personality with charisma. DB did have a boring persona but his charisma and in ring prowess cancelled it out.

Jeff Hardy had zero personality. His persona was boring as fuck. But he had charisma up the ass so you couldn't help but be drawned to him during his matches. Dwayne also always had charisma even whe he had his shit gimmick. He felt like he belonged in front of a camera. Roman thus far has not. Weird too cause his pops and uncle were also super charismatic as the Wild Samoans.

 

[CJBachelor85]

How do you get 100,000 people to cheer Reigns?

You can't. Lol.

 

[VIBE]

I hate Romans mic work, he's worse than Cena. He talks so cheesy. He says triple H's name weird, sounds like a 2 year old. Twiple H. His promos aren't organic like Ambrose or Wyatt are.

He's improved in the ring, though. Like above says, needs a backstory as to his shield explanation and a reason as to why he does what he does. Giving him more of a background and working on his delivery of promos would help him greatly.

 

[CJBachelor85]

Prolem with Roman is two things imo and most others

1) No character deveplment. Move on from the shield. Or at the very least tell us why you still using it. (Holding on hope that your brothers will reunite)

2) his story doesnt match him. He shouldnt be an underdog. His story should be of a guy trying to live up to his family name and continue the legacy of greatness. THAT story is beleivable or even trying to make it in the biz w/o relying on his family name. Doing it on his own.

That would make more sense with him wanting to do it on his own. Be his own man (nh) without relying the whole "he is Rock's cousin". Really mean that shit when with this whole One Vs. All. I still would like for them to turn him into this guy that really could 2 shits what the fans think. Throw in sly remarks to toward the crowd. Play off how the crowd is reacting to you instead of trying to please them. Fuck that.

 

[CJBachelor85]

Man, I hate when he does that fist pump shit before the superman punch. The crowd even knows it is corny cuz that is when they really boo him

 

[Already Home_17]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

but if he does all this he'll start getting cheered

 

[jono]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

but if he does all this he'll start getting cheered

That's all it is. Idiots want to turn him heel so they can like him. Weirdos

 

[5th Letter]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

but if he does all this he'll start getting cheered

That's the objective so once that happens you can turn him back to face with the fans behind him.

 

[TheBoyRo]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

but if he does all this he'll start getting cheered

And that's why Cena will never be a heel. Fans will cheer most likely. I just don't understand certain wrestling fans sometimes.

 

[BangEm_Bart]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

but if he does all this he'll start getting cheered

That's all it is. Idiots want to turn him heel so they can like him. Weirdos

He can say the same shit and still be face. I think the reason why he sucks is cause he lacks confidence and it shows. He wears a x men vest to cover his stomach and doesn't sound sure of himself during promos.

Shawn Michaels and Rick Rude use to say the same smark shit and win fans. Creative can sneak a heel in there that's an even bigger as whole to make him face again. The key is giving him a favorable edge. A cross between Michaels and Austin could work for him but he ain't confident enough to pull off promos for that.

 

[Already Home_17]

They should turn Roman heel that's the only way to salvage him at this point. Let him beat down Ambrose similarly to what HHH did to Reigns, then let him get on the mic for weeks and just start ripping into the fans. Say shit like "you guys booed me when all I did was try to entertain you, now I don't want your approval, you live in your moms basement, you haven't been with a woman since you came outta one, I look better than y'all, I can take your girlfriends, I'll touch your wife and dare you to do something" etc, months of that type of shit as well as him being a bad ass will eventually get the crowd to back him again, because then the crowd will think he's entertaining.

but if he does all this he'll start getting cheered

And that's why Cena will never be a heel. Fans will cheer most likely. I just don't understand certain wrestling fans sometimes.

last year even when lesnar was babyface, the crowd would boo everytime Paul mentioned Brock ending the streak

I remember listening to a podcast and a fan suggested cena (if he wasn't injured) turning heel at the rumble and winning it, thus tying stone colds record for most rumble wins and flairs record for most world title wins in one night. can you imagine the heat dude would receive from the crowd, regardless if he's face or heel? but cena trolling the crowd week in week out and claiming to be the greatest of all time would be the icing on the cake

in an era where fans are too smart for their own good and love to go against the grain for the sake of it, you have to hit a soft spot for a heel turn to truly be effective