The OTTB 2013 WWE PPV Thread: TLC 12.15)

[VIBE]

They don't have a good enough roster.

They should build a roster around the titles, sort of like weight classes.

Just so they can have proper matches and winners.

I was thinking last night, when Ziggler cashes in, who is a good opponent that's believable? Bryan, Rio and Swagger. Really that's it. Orton as well, but Ziggler has jobbed a lot to these guys that him winning as champion wouldn't feel legit.

They need a light heavyweight or cruiserweight division to help w guys like Miz, Ziggler, Bryan etc...

I would like to see Cesaro as WHC but Vince isn't keen on the guy. smh

 

[south4life]

Man as much as some of y'all hated part-time champion Rock, y'all sure are bitching about Cena winning the title tonight.

That's because we didn't want a part timer or Super Cena as Champ in the first place, CM Punk should have still been Champ.

 

[king mocha]

Following his match with Mark Henry at WrestleMania 29, Ryback was seen limping backstage.

 

[apollo greed]

So Punk really taking time off huh? Dayum WWE bout' to be corny for a while.

worse part is, theyre saying one of the reasons for it is because creative cant come up with anything for him

Are you serious? How are you creative and you cant create shit?

 

[south4life]

I got a perfect storyline for CM Punk.

He is upset with losing to Undertaker and calls him out only to have Kane come out, Kane tells Punk that he will pay for what he did to his father's urn and just when he is about to chokeslam him, Brock Lesnar comes out and F5's Kane which brings out Daniel Bryan, only for CM Punk to give him a GTS.

Punk and Lesnar stare each other down and then start smiling and Paul Heyman stands in the middle smirking as well.

Have Team Hell No face Team Rhodes Scholars later that night and have CM Punk and Lesnar interfere and cost them the titles and then u have a intertwine feud of Kane & Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar & CM Punk and at Payback it can be Lesnar vs. Kane in a Hell In A Cell match and CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan in a submission match.

This feud gives Lesnar and Punk something to do until they put CM Punk back in the WWE Title race and setup Lesnar's next feud.

 

[peagle05]

I got a perfect storyline for CM Punk.

He is upset with losing to Undertaker and calls him out only to have Kane come out, Kane tells Punk that he will pay for what he did to his father's urn and just when he is about to chokeslam him, Brock Lesnar comes out and F5's Kane which brings out Daniel Bryan, only for CM Punk to give him a GTS.

Punk and Lesnar stare each other down and then start smiling and Paul Heyman stands in the middle smirking as well.

Have Team Hell No face Team Rhodes Scholars later that night and have CM Punk and Lesnar interfere and cost them the titles and then u have a intertwine feud of Kane & Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar & CM Punk and at Payback it can be Lesnar vs. Kane in a Hell In A Cell match and CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan in a submission match.

This feud gives Lesnar and Punk something to do until they put CM Punk back in the WWE Title race and setup Lesnar's next feud.

solid idea..shit punk said he wanted to tag with lesnar anyway. only problem is lesnar's contract i think it still only obligates him to a certain number of dates.

my nigga started with all that wrestling is fake shit yesterday, i told him to let me chokeslam him, i aint heard back from that nigga lol

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Taker runs Mania! Punk and Taker was basically the only shit worth Mania.

 

[dandctt]

All bs aside tho, WM was solid from top to bottom.

Not WM 17 level or anything but nothing was horrible and all the wrestlers gave a lot of effort and the crowd was hot for the most part.

Some Notes:

Shield def. Sheamus, Randy Orton, and Big Show - Shield looked good as usual and Sheamus and Orton did their usual stuff. Rollins looked like he almost killed himself on a suicide dive to the outside. Big Shows spear on everybody was awesome as was the springboard RKO to Rollins. I'm surprised they went with the 'Show turns heel even though he was already a heel' thing tho. I thought Orton would be more likely to turn than Cena, but so much for that. ** 1/4

Mark Henry def. Ryabck - Henry was getting cheered over Ryback a bit but of course the crowd still chants 'Feed Me More' for some reason. Crowd actually chanted 'Sexual Chocolate' a couple times. Slow match with nothing of note really happening and I was surprised Henry won but the Shell Shock at the end looked good. Look for this feud to continue. 1/2 *

Tag Team Titles: Team Hell No def. Dolph Ziggler & Big E Langston - I like how they eluded to the 18-second match last year with Bryan and teased it happening again. Langston looked good for the brief point he was in and sold pretty well. Quick match and Bryan & Kane still don't lose the belts which was a shock I thought they'd be broken up by now. YES chants at the end were crazy the whole crowd was into it. **

(Diddy's performance was wack, he seemed like he didnt care and they cut the 8 person tag which was good because I didnt want to see it actually.)

Fandango def. Chris Jericho - Nice fast paced match but fell a little flat from what i was expecting, I felt it didnt get enough time and Fandango didnt get a lot of offense. Ryback-Henry should've been shorter to make time for this. Fandango countering Jericho's springboard dropkick with a jump kick to the head was AWESOME. ***

World Title: Alberto del Rio def. Jack Swagger - Forget what u may have heard or will hear. I thought this was a very solid match. These dudes clicked really well. Crowd didnt give a crap but this match is going to be severly underrated. WHY DID DOLPH NOT CASH IN THO?!? *** 1/2

Undertaker def. CM Punk - Excellent match of course. Crowd was into it, dueling chants, big pops for near falls. Living Colour sounded way better than any other live performances they usually do for entrances. Punk got a pretty big pop as well. Undertaker's entrance was cool with the creatures of the night at his feet. I didnt realize it til somebody on another site pointed it out but Punk's attire design was a play on Taker's old grey/purple color scheme which was a great touch. Punk brought the goods and Taker looked great, rejuvenated like he hadnt been out of the ring a year. Great spots and drama. **** 3/4

Career Threatening Match: Triple H def. Brock Lesnar - Wow the crowd was dead for this match. Brock however beat the crap out of HHH for the better part of 10 minutes which was great but the crowd was not into it. HBK interfered which I thought was cool and HHH trying to break Brock's arm and doing the Kimura on him three times even after getting slammed on the ring steps each time was cool. I thought HHH would lose but either way it was a really good match. *** 3/4

WWE Title: John Cena def. The Rock - Cena got booed of course. Crowd didnt turn on Rock which surprised me actually. Match was pretty slow to begin and crowd was dead and chanted boring so they picked up the pace. They hit about 10 finishers on each other which some people didnt like but i thought it worked cuz the crowd loved it. Cena teasing the People's Elbow to allude to last year and screw with Rock was great. Cena actually got a big pop for winning. I was almost certain afterwards when Rock and Cena were hugging and shaking hands that Cena would hit Rock with the belt or something and turn heel but i actually liked the send off/respect angle. I know people DO NOT want to see Cena as champ again but I have no problem with it. Cena cool with me and he does his thing so im interested to see where they go with it this time. ****

Maybe im being too optimistic but i thought this was the best WM in a while and i recommend checking it out if u didnt.

I give WrestleMania 29 a **** rating overall.

 

[ShencotheMC]

Man as much as some of y'all hated part-time champion Rock, y'all sure are bitching about Cena winning the title tonight.

That's because we didn't want a part timer or Super Cena as Champ in the first place, CM Punk should have still been Champ.

Too bad Punk's reign was boring as fuck

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Man as much as some of y'all hated part-time champion Rock, y'all sure are bitching about Cena winning the title tonight.

That's because we didn't want a part timer or Super Cena as Champ in the first place, CM Punk should have still been Champ.

Too bad Punk's reign was boring as fuck

Punk was the best thing going in WWE.

The Rock was boring and stale, the nigga was doing the same damn promo's from 15 years ago, his comeback was a failure in my opinion.

 

[TheBoyRo]

According to PWInsider.com, CM Punk legitimately hurt his knee after hitting the announce table during the elbow drop spot in his match last night. Punk was reportedly in a lot of pain backstage after the match last night, and people were amazed that he was able to finish the bout as he did following the injury/spot.

Many of the mid-card talents were disappointed that they weren't used during WrestleMania last night, and many were particularly surprised that Antonio Cesaro was not used on the show given how hard he has been working for WWE lately.

Due to time constraints, the Alberto Del Rio vs Jack Swagger match was shortened last night as the bout was initially expected to go longer

 

[south4life]

Yo they said the reason why they canceled the Tons of Funk vs. Team Rhodes Scholars match was because of time.

First off they wasted time showing all those Rock and Cena promos, they wasted time with the Diddy mini concert and how do u have a hour long pre-show and only have one match?

They could have had their match along with The Miz/Barrett match on the pre-show and kept that stupid Diddy concert off the show and the Rock/Cena promos should have came before the match not all night long.

 

[Mr.LV]

Triple H entrance at Wrestlemania 29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbCDms5bSss&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[infamous114]

More reports on The Rock's walkout

WWE is working re-write massive parts of tonight’s Raw as The Rock is not there as originally planned.

The word backstage is that he left for Los Angeles this morning. WWE sources indicate this caught the company completely off guard and there’s a lot of heat on Rock at the moment.

This is not a planned angle to sell Rock being upset over losing the WWE title. He was worked into their plans going forward and there had been talk of shooting a major angle with Rock to begin building Wrestlemania 30, possibly an angle with Undertaker or Brock Lesnar (we’ve heard both discussed but mostly Lesnar) and all that is out the window now.

Source - PWI

 

[TheBoyRo]

More reports on The Rock's walkout

WWE is working re-write massive parts of tonight’s Raw as The Rock is not there as originally planned.

The word backstage is that he left for Los Angeles this morning. WWE sources indicate this caught the company completely off guard and there’s a lot of heat on Rock at the moment.

This is not a planned angle to sell Rock being upset over losing the WWE title. He was worked into their plans going forward and there had been talk of shooting a major angle with Rock to begin building Wrestlemania 30, possibly an angle with Undertaker or Brock Lesnar (we’ve heard both discussed but mostly Lesnar) and all that is out the window now.

Source - PWI

smh, good job dwayne

 

[dalyricalbandit]

THE WAY PUNK HIT THE GTS AND TAKER BOUNCED OFF THE ROPE TO CATCH PUNK WITH THE TOMBSTONE WAS GOAT

 

[VIBE]

I wonder if Rocky was scheduled to win and at last minute, as usual, they changed the plans.

That's the only way I can see fit for a reason for Rock to feel salty and leave.

 

[peagle05]

More reports on The Rock's walkout

WWE is working re-write massive parts of tonight’s Raw as The Rock is not there as originally planned.

The word backstage is that he left for Los Angeles this morning. WWE sources indicate this caught the company completely off guard and there’s a lot of heat on Rock at the moment.

This is not a planned angle to sell Rock being upset over losing the WWE title. He was worked into their plans going forward and there had been talk of shooting a major angle with Rock to begin building Wrestlemania 30, possibly an angle with Undertaker or Brock Lesnar (we’ve heard both discussed but mostly Lesnar) and all that is out the window now.

Source - PWI

lmfao shit

 

[peagle05]

I wonder if Rocky was scheduled to win and at last minute, as usual, they changed the plans.

That's the only way I can see fit for a reason for Rock to feel salty and leave.

i hope thats what it is and it aint no serious family type shit for someone to just get the fuck out and not say anything

 

[Crude_]

I wonder if Rocky was scheduled to win and at last minute, as usual, they changed the plans.

That's the only way I can see fit for a reason for Rock to feel salty and leave.

I think they planned this since Mania last year with Cena getting beat by the Rock.

I knew when that shit happened Cena would come back and redeem himself this year at Mania.

This shit has been in the works for nearly a year.

I'm not mad about Rock leaving he did what he was suppose to do which is "attempt to put Cena over."

I'm interested to see who they fued Cena with next.

I wouldn't be surprised if a popular face within the company turned heel to give Cena some heat.

I though Zigger was the chosen one a few months ago but they've let him take to many loses as of late to be taken seriously as a legitamate threat.

I wouldnt be surprised if someone like Sheamus, Orton, or Ryback turned heel maybe even tonight on Raw if not maybe later.

I dont even know another wrestler that would even be worthy of the challenge.